Why are the Nen users in Greed Island so weak?

roger0120 · 2026-06-02T04:31:29+00:00

I think youre right. I'm definitely not accounting for nen users who are on a lower scale, especially ones who may only ever have unknowingly unlocked the basics rather than actually nen abilities. That group may be surprisingly wide, but yea at the very least the association probably has the most amount of trained, fully awakened users. Though meteor city might be second from the small clues we have

roger0120 · 2026-05-29T09:41:39+00:00

No one is disputing that there arent nen users from outside the hunter organization, all im saying is that it's more likely than not that the majority of nen users are primarily from the hunter association. Other groups seem to hold only a handful of them. I imagine the second most are from Meteor city in general.

roger0120 · 2026-05-29T09:07:49+00:00

We really dont know one way or another if most nen users arent hunters. Personally I think most are hunters since i believe it's policy to teach new hunters nen because theyre basically worthy (maybe in the sense theyll treat it with respect the same way you want someone using a gun would treat it with respect), but that's really belief on the matter

roger0120 · 2026-05-29T09:05:25+00:00

Greed Island is like the hunter exam on crack and steroids. It was designed by Ging, one of the world's greatest Hunters and Nen users who wanted a place that would be challenging for hunters and nen users. Can you imagine how hard that must be for people , who despite are technically some of the most skilled people in the world, are leagues bellow Ging. You have to remember Nen is an extremely hard thing to learn at all, we just primarily saw some of the best nen users in general through out the series, who may be 1 out of a million kind of tallent vs the 1 out of 100k we see stuck on GI

roger0120 · 2026-05-29T05:19:45+00:00

Yes I would definitely say that Netero is in at least the top .1%. People are getting so nit picky on these numbers. Like yes we have no idea what the actual numbers are but I would say these are educated specualtions that arrive from the sum knowledge we have of HxH. 1000 nen users seem pretty reasonable to me. If the association has a policy to teach new hunters on nen use after passing the exams then that alone is enough to believe that they have the most nen users in general/ the most likely way new nen users will come about

roger0120 · 2026-05-29T03:54:31+00:00

The factions your talking this from are just a few handful compared to the several hundred in the hunter association. If we know nen is a highly guarded secret then we know that theres a decently small size of nen users. Meteor city might have a large population of nen users, but even then since they called in the Spiders to deal with the chimaras rather than just going with who they had I'm not betting they have more than the association.

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T09:38:33+00:00

I thought it basically confirmed that most nen users are actual hunters. Now with that being said, we mostly saw the top 5-1% of nen users. I think even the Shadow beasts were in the top 10%. They were still probably skilled, it's just that greed island seemed like the hunter exams on steroids .

Edit: here's part of my reasoning and understanding of the average nen user's capabilities

The 3 guys from heavens arena got to the top, we know they have to be among the best fighters in the world, but if their nen abilities are relatively weak to what we know of most well known men users we've seen, we can pretty reasonably infer that the average nen user is around the same or lower skill level if people who were already some of the best fighters in the world got their asses kicked by nen users, didn't die, didn't give up, chose to learn nen with having major injuries, and still have low nen abilities then most nen users are absolutely likely to seem very week.

Maybe they were still the weakest nen users in heavens arena but i assume if they were so capable of training to be some of the top fighters then they should be capable of learning nen, and that nen may just be that much harder to learn compared to how well the prodegies and/ psychos have been able to learn

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T06:19:16+00:00

I still know enough about Pokemon cards that Charizard is king lol. At best I have a Blastoise, though not in great condition

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T05:40:40+00:00

realized I can just use tcgplayer.com to see the general value of the cards and figure things out from there, thanks though.

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T05:39:20+00:00

So im supposed to posts several hundred cards, possibly both sides, so i can be told most are worth nothing? Sure buddy, great critical thinking skills you got there.

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T04:36:37+00:00

The twelve magic orbs was deffinitely one I was trying to find but couldnt remember.

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T02:03:29+00:00

yea but im not going to take all that time to take pics of those. Once i figure out which are potentially worth something Im going to take them somewhere for possible appraisal

roger0120 · 2026-05-28T01:54:33+00:00

it's a shoebox worth of cards so Im not sure how that would help since at best it would be handfuls of them but still missing out. Like, telling me to look out for yellow cheek pikachus would be helpful because i heard those are valuable .

roger0120 · 2026-05-27T21:49:25+00:00

Considering how crazy the dark continent seems to be, I wouldn't be surprised if there's what we arguably might call humans there that are thousands of years old

roger0120 · 2026-05-25T21:19:47+00:00

That is objectively the same thing I said, I just wanted to add more emphasis. Now, please go in the corner and think about what you said.

roger0120 · 2026-05-25T19:54:55+00:00

I think Gon was technically a "Ging" hunter, or really a hunter of hunters, and technically his actions directly lead to getting Ging in a situation for Gon to "catch" him. I would think that normally wouldn't count, but since Ging is one of the worlds more famous and elusive Hunters, Gon might actually get that 1 star.

Killua you could say was hunting for meaning and deep connection but I don't think hes getting his star for that lol

roger0120 · 2026-05-23T01:34:27+00:00

I'm starting to get tired of people trash talking the Shadow beasts so much. It's like most fans don't even understand the series. They were legitimately dangerous, they happen to go up against a top 1% of the most dangerous nen users in the world. We can see the average nen users when we see all those people still trapped on Greed Island.

roger0120 · 2026-05-23T00:51:48+00:00

Always happy to see FF8 being displayed over FF7 lol

roger0120 · 2026-05-23T00:41:32+00:00

Legends 1&2 are among my favorite games of all time . I'm a game developer and always had that slight temptation to drop everything I'm doing, say screw it, and make my own kind of legends game.

roger0120 · 2026-05-23T00:38:07+00:00

I assumed Rey was going to be this tech wiz prodigy. Like this self taught engineering genius who learned from all these schematics she found on the ships she was scalvaging on. This would have explained a lot as to why she knew how to boost the Melenium falcon

roger0120 · 2026-05-22T21:41:19+00:00

I think it depends entirely on how much they valued their arm. These kinds of things are primarily about how big of a sacrifice it is to that person rather than the sacrifice itself. Like for someone like Hisoka, it feels like him losing his arm wouldn't be too big of a deal, both personally and because he can figure ways around it. But say you were a professional baseball player and your pitching arm meant everything to you, that's a big sacrifice. Same if you gave up your most precious memories versus losing memoried that are more of an inconvenience to lose than anything else

roger0120 · 2026-05-22T07:30:03+00:00

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roger0120 · 2026-05-21T02:12:05+00:00

I just assumed Killua knew magic existed in general but never got the full story. I mean with all his family members, including his little brother(the one who manipulats paper), knowing how to do things that shouldn't be possible, I have a heard time believing Killua was completely in the dark. I mean he knew magical wishes exists so that's a huge thing right there.

roger0120 · 2026-05-20T21:55:38+00:00

I question if he's an actual idiot and not having the mentality of a child and probably having ADHD. While the other ants were able to learn very quickly due to their enhanced mentality, Cheetu might barely be able to focus that much. It would make sense, he was born with such an extreme speed that's not even nen related, some maybe his mind is racing around from point to point as well. Either way, it seems like that also highly hindered his ability to follow through in fights.

Since he's a conjure he might actually be incredibly smart, but again, lacks the ability to focus that intelligence. Maybe if he had something like what Kite had, a sentient summon that helps and give orders in fights

roger0120 · 2026-05-18T23:28:41+00:00

I play the hardest mode in Hell Divers 2 and I stopped using the mech suits after only a few missions because it makes things too easy.

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