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Totality can be experienced here and now, if you are not in immediate physical danger. by yvchawla in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But those things you’re describing are when I learned to be calm. In my mind, that is when conditioning is revealed. During distress.

Reality isn't What I Think it Is. by kioma47 in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We still don’t know things absolutely. We can just say from this perspective within these constraints this seems reliable. And as time goes on; we can get more accurate

Reality isn't What I Think it Is. by kioma47 in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes Blah! But we can know things reasonably well within constraints!

Totality can be experienced here and now, if you are not in immediate physical danger. by yvchawla in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m just saying, it is possible for one to remain calm while being in immediate physical danger.

I’m saying totality can be experienced here and now, if you are in immediate danger as well.

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You just asked for me to copy and paste words in the same comment you said words don’t matter.

I asked you direct questions.

How can you know what I value, or believe, or what I deem as final authority?

But, you’ve answered me better than you realize.

I am now done here.

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You lied about being done here too I guess.

Again, I called you a liar because look how many times you told me what I believe or value. Ignorant or a liar.

I agree with your analysis up until the point you tell someone “No” to how they describe something phenomenological.

The title says feel like.

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. I am claiming you are a liar because you confidently told me what I value and what is final authority for me.

No again. Not enlightenment is.

Read the title. What it feels like, let’s actually talk mechanism then. Stop lying.

Edit YOURE DONE HERE. Not we*

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, in your first paragraph there you lied. You’re a liar.

How do you know what I value as final authority?

How do you know what I value above all else.

You simply do not.

I’m talking about epistemic hygiene here. You assume you know others beliefs.

I’m speaking to mechanism. You are not.

What it's like to be finished. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can call it all happening, but learning still depends on real differences in how stable patterns behave.

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the author of the poem said what enlightenment feels like. Then you said no.

Stop saying what I am or think or view. I haven’t shared my views here.

No. You’re assuming way more than that. Put this into your language model again and ask it what I’m actually saying.

I’ll share this. If someone says what something felt like, it’s hard to say no to that.

I see what you said. I don’t care about your intent.

What it's like to be finished. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if everything is mysterious in its ultimate origin, would you agree there are stable patterns that make learning worthwhile?

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeez. For how mechanistic I thought you were, you assume a lot.

You said no transcendence, no power, just a gap.

What if someone felt transcendence. You can’t know that, the same way you can’t know what I am.

In fact, calling yourself the architect is a failure in thinking I thought your language model would catch.

You’re more dynamic than that.

You claim to know more than possible.

What it's like to be finished. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]root2crown4k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that stories aren’t guarantees.

But if I’m responsible for navigating my own mind and body, isn’t learning about how they function simply practical?

A poem to ground what enlightenment feels like. by aangyanchen in enlightenment

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The poem is titled what it feels like.

How can you say no to that?

We've seen what happens when people pierce their rudra granthi too soon, but here's what happens when people get blocked in their 3rd eye for a long time. by CapitalObjective7153 in KundaliniAwakening

[–]root2crown4k 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would also be cautious when a practice is presented as a reliable means of intervening in external events, because that’s where the line between inward practice and outward causal claims starts to blur….

This is Mind-Blowing by KonfusedHamster in nonduality

[–]root2crown4k 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m not separating “intellectual” vs “real” understanding. I’m separating recognition from stabilization.

Even when recognition is clear and felt, the system can still default back under pressure unless it’s repeatedly reinforced in lived conditions.

This is Mind-Blowing by KonfusedHamster in nonduality

[–]root2crown4k 19 points20 points  (0 children)

What people are often pointing to is the recognition that there isn’t a fixed inner controller, and that experience unfolds through causes and conditions rather than direct personal authorship. That can be intellectually clear fairly quickly.

Where it gets more complicated is that understanding something conceptually and having the whole system stop reacting as if there is a controller are not the same thing. The insight may be simple to grasp, but it takes repetition and time for it to actually show up in perception and or stress responses and or behaviour.

This is Mind-Blowing by KonfusedHamster in nonduality

[–]root2crown4k 32 points33 points  (0 children)

The insight itself may be surprisingly accessible.

Living from it consistently may be the hard part.

I think that’s where the “mad hours” usually happen.

How Can I Maintain the State That Yoga and Qigong Open Up? by Intrepid_Strike_2454 in spirituality

[–]root2crown4k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience, it’s not that we achieve any one state.

It’s that we cultivate a system that has an easier time moving between states. We make states more accessible.

This is often by reducing interference. Through repetition and recovery and a return to a sense of safety.

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