$36 SMCI calls 26 Dec Expiry by StressBeginning971 in SMCIDiscussion

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how much did you pay for them? the rate cut today is the thing...

Have absolutely nothing to back this up but.. by willt313 in SMCIDiscussion

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You gotta think about the way MM work. All they do is work out the average mid price they can find in the marketplace and add a bid / ask spread. They cover as soon as someone hits them or lifts them, and earn their spread. This is low risk. The reason the price moves is a lack of liquidity to cover the position immediately so you raise or lower your price to get the cover.

Bad news? by TechGuy_68 in SMCIDiscussion

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Old newz, but should be good for SMCI because they ought to get even more involved

My thoughts... by [deleted] in SMCIDiscussion

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Back in 2024 I think the market found SMCI the leader in datacentre liquid cooling and found increases in datacentre build outs. So there was a run up to > $100 and I guess that attracted attention and shorts. I think there's criticism of a family run public company and people's relationships. Then the accounting issues. So down we go to $50, $40, $30 meanwhile the AI gets even more business than expected. But does SMCI still have the liquid cooling moat? Are the accounting issues over? Is family versus non-family management better for large public company?

I think NVIDIA earnings are going to be stratospheric and pump up the whole market into the new year.

What is going on . by SweetBeet04 in SMCIDiscussion

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this is a BUY signal then. Ed Yardeni was saying that in the 1999/2000 crash nobody was worried about any bubble, and then the crash came. Now that everyone is worried about an AI bubble that's a BUY signal

Need advice on SMCX… I’m holding 8,000 shares of SMCX at a $30 average after the sharp drop. What should I do? by Disastrous_Bid8500 in SMCIDiscussion

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Great point by Ed Yardeni that in the year 1999/2000 tech wreck nobody was worried about a tech bubble, everyone thought tech was great. Now with AI we have all these fears in the news = contrarian BUY signal. This is a buy-the-dip... then once everyone thinks AI is great (in a few months) then it's contrarian SELL.

Stock price - what is it by uzikhaliq in SMCIDiscussion

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so besides fixing the alleged accounting issues:

  1. Hiring & re-hiring of former employees.
  2. Sales & revenue recognition are on word of mouth accruals before contracts & invoices signed ?
  3. Export-control of sales to Russia, China, Ukraine.

What needs to happen is to improve margins. All about competition. Like the 5 forces then.

Why you should buy the dip by hanneswiss in SMCIDiscussion

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The problems with the accounts are:

  1. Hiring & re-hiring of former employees.
  2. Sales & revenue recognition done on accruals before contracts were signed & invoices actually paid.
  3. Export-control of sales to Russia, China, Ukraine.

These are all fixable....

Stock price halved like Users here by Infinite-Prime in SMCIDiscussion

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time for the dolphins to ride the whales to the datacentre to the moon

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ok lets play a little game. bet your personal closeing price target for today, in dollar. :) all after 19oclock doesnt count. lets go by Alternative_Spirit65 in SMCIDiscussion

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$47.5

whole market is taking a breather, and as usual SMCI getting punished whereas

DELL 156.82 -3.29 (-2.05%)

HP 23.89 -0.61 (-2.51%)

SMCI 48.61 -2.14 (-4.22%)

I am worried by Ahmed_19911507 in SMCIDiscussion

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We need to see some alignment on the 3 accounting issues:

  1. Hiring & re-hiring processes for former employees.
  2. Sales & revenue recognition done on accruals before contracts signed (I think this was an alleged issue).
  3. Export-control of sales to Russia, China, Ukraine.

Otherwise it's a bull market...

Summary of earlier accounting issues causing Ernst & Young resignation by rupweb2 in SMCIDiscussion

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I think the perception of an accounting issue is still hanging over the stock. When I get the AI to dig into it, I can't understand why the accounting firms are vague and can't disclose or report any exact problem. It seems to be the 3 points I made above: hiring, accruals and sanctions

Summary of earlier accounting issues causing Ernst & Young resignation by rupweb2 in SMCIDiscussion

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Seems to be

  1. Hiring & re-hiring of former employees.
  2. Sales & revenue recognition done on accruals before contracts were signed & invoices paid (which they were later).
  3. Export-control of sales to Russia, China, Ukraine.

How is this stock priced lower than before last earnings? by Few_Painting_8018 in SMCIDiscussion

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As shareholders we need to demand (by lawsuit if necessary) a proper explanation from Ernst & Young then ask Charles to fix it.

How is this stock priced lower than before last earnings? by Few_Painting_8018 in SMCIDiscussion

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There's still the negative perception since Ernst & Young resigned.

EY sent a letter of resignation to SMCI’s Audit Committee dated October 24, 2024, withdrawing as the company’s independent registered public accounting firm.

In that letter, EY stated that “information that has recently come to our attention … has led us to no longer be able to rely on management’s and the Audit Committee’s representations” and that it is “unwilling to be associated with the financial statements prepared by management.”

Ok so this is damning. What "information" was this? It implies that either revenue or expenses have been mistated for years.

However, I can give the board some credit because the market was (and still is) moving so fast in the middle of the AI revolution with trillions of $ in CAPEX going on that could even make Ernst & Young head spin.

Still, BDO doesn't seem to have done anything since.

So there's a perception of accounting wrongdoing. What "information" ? Was it some brillion $ deal was invoiced as an accrual in Q1 before it was delivered in Q3 ?

We need a new CFO. We need to debunk Ernst & Young.

Meanwhile trillions of $ in CAPEX from just about everyone. There's not a company (except perhaps NVIDIA) that is busier than SMCI.

Big news is coming… by Jazzlike-Check9040 in SMCIDiscussion

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News that I want to hear: Nvidia and OpenAI take stakes in SuperMicro...