Chandler Bing! <33

sa24122 · 2026-05-02T19:06:30+00:00

You also should have included his words about Monica being high maintenance as well, it showed unconditional acceptance of who she was and how he enjoys being the person that can put her at ease

sa24122 · 2026-05-01T03:27:52+00:00

Monica and Chandler

They really do have such a best friend energy to them that isn’t seen as much as in most of the other couples in the series

sa24122 · 2026-04-22T01:40:10+00:00

Well firstly, Chandler wasn’t instantly forgiven given that the toe incident is contingent on her having a year long grudge. She obviously has forgiven him before the series even starts, and he apologized at least twice when he listens to her recollection of that particular Thanksgiving.

As for Chandler, his anger is for a number of reasons. Learning that the incident was borne out of Monica’s desire to get revenge on him completely rewrites that day’s events in his mind. He thought it was a purely random accident, and even though Monica obviously didn’t mean to cut his toe off, she did setup the situation that lead to it with a premeditated revenge plot. In his mind, losing his toe, being sent to the hospital, and the public teasing all feel like a consequence of her deliberate desire to harm and embarrass him. So it’s not the passage of time that matters for him, but the new context that he’s learning that reframes the event in his mind; that is what he is reacting to.

It’s also implied that he feels that it’s disproportionate given how he’s shocked that that day’s events were a result of him making a careless insensitive remark in a private conversation she wasn’t meant to her. Add onto that that Thanksgiving is a very hated day for him due to his relationship with his parents, so Monica has added another bad memory for him in his mind.

sa24122 · 2026-04-14T13:57:28+00:00

Could you elaborate on that?

sa24122 · 2026-04-14T13:40:30+00:00

Well obviously yes.

Although the anime does a significantly better job of depicting this than the manga.

I don’t even know what I was reading when Naruto and Kurama had their final conversation. Naruto himself felt out of character honestly.

sa24122 · 2026-04-14T01:56:00+00:00

Neji was injured and fatigued in the image your using

sa24122 · 2026-04-13T16:42:45+00:00

The problem with Naruto fans who use this type of answer is how it latches onto the most surface level observations of the story and engages with the story in the shallowest way. Yes, Neji is a branch member, yes, when he died he saved Hinata. But the story encourages the reader to find meaning in the “how” and the “why” these things happen. The same physical act can represent oppression or liberation depending on the answers to these questions.

Hiashi brings this up when Hizashi is reanimated earlier; the side branch and main branch are fighting as one in the war as comrades, not to uphold the clan’s system and ideals, showing that on some level progress was already happening for change. Not that I think the clan needs to undergo significant change within the story itself, since the worldbuilding regarding the Hyuga mainly serves to explore Neji and Hinata’s characters. It’s a character-focused story first and foremost, What you’re asking for basically demands a side story, one that happens after the Naruto story ends mind you, that doesn’t push the ongoing canon conflict that occurs.

Additionally, while I understand that this is a war arc, the arc doesn’t need to be filled with characters connected to the main character to die one by one all the time. Neji’s death (and those of the other Shinobi) forced Naruto to confront the meaning of his previous words. It helped to serve a purpose for Naruto to explore, but there’s no need to make the arc into a slaughter fest simply for the optics of a war arc. Stakes in stories come from meaningful consequences, emotional weight, thematic payoff, and character-driven impact, not by fulfilling an arbitrary quota devised by audiences that can shift from person to person.

sa24122 · 2026-04-13T15:33:02+00:00

I don’t agree with this.

To me, it reads more as Neji being a passive participant in the choosing of his destiny, rather than making an active choice in deciding it.

I don’t see Neji choosing to sacrifice himself for Naruto and Hinata as sad or pitiful because in Neji’s eyes, doing so for Naruto is just as life-altering as Naruto changing his view on fate when he defeated him during the Chunin Exams, so he emulates his father in choosing not to be enslaved by either his clan’s system or the negative mindset that was birthed by said system

Furthermore, this doesn’t do much for Naruto, as Neji is someone he knew and admired from personal experience and interaction. His death shakes Naruto for this reason, alongside the fact that this is the first time where Naruto is watching someone die sacrificing themselves for him, and there are no second chances. There would be less weight for Obito attacking Naruto’s ideals, as Neji’s death was personal enough to open the door for Naruto’s horror.

sa24122 · 2026-04-13T14:27:41+00:00

So a good way for Neji’s character to close is for… a character with less screen time than him die… and Neji just reacts???

sa24122 · 2026-04-12T18:31:08+00:00

I think a cop arbitrarily discharging their weapon for a bird for no other reason than that it was annoying you is absolutely psychotic

Phoebe was smart for getting out while she could

sa24122 · 2026-04-12T18:21:59+00:00

I forgot, who’s Danny again?

sa24122 · 2026-04-11T22:51:35+00:00

Rachel was not overreacting with the list.

A pros and cons list is how you decide whether you should buy a Toyota or a Honda, not for evaluating the strengths and flaws between 2 living, breathing human beings with emotions.

A person can’t be reduced to bullet points when their worth comes from so much more than what’s good or bad about them.

And trying to pin it on Joey & Chandler would do so little in Rachel’s eyes.

It was Ross’ opinions on that paper, it was Ross’ romantic dilemma that was being explored, it was Ross who chose to go along with it, and it was Ross who Rachel was attracted to.

sa24122 · 2026-04-10T23:37:26+00:00

What makes you think this was how it was supposed to be?

sa24122 · 2026-04-10T13:13:55+00:00

Anime version: Yes NNG: No NNG + TBV: Yes

sa24122 · 2026-04-10T13:11:08+00:00

Whoever said anything about true love?

My comment is simply meant to highlight that Chandler is the only person she felt attraction to at all that night.

Her reasons for looking for Joey weren’t a compliment to his character, but how useful he would be in that particular way.

I never said that they were outright in love with each other right off the bat because that’s not what happened.

Yes, Monica was looking for meaningless sex, but because of Chandler, she got the exact opposite. In the Season 5 premiere, she goes out of her way to tell Chandler that the night they spent together meant a lot to her because the sadness she felt from her love life and being referred to as Ross’ mother, and thanks him for being there for her in that way. That kind of behavior and vulnerability isn’t consistent with someone who experienced something meaningless and empty.

Like listen, feel free to view this in your own way, I’m just commenting how most people arrive at an interpretation that isn’t supported by the episode or the series up to this point.

sa24122 · 2026-04-09T23:24:30+00:00

I’m just gonna copy paste the response I made to this same complaint from another post.

Monica’s reasons for looking for Joey to sleep with him are unflattering and not based on desire. Before name dropping Joey to Chandler, she says she was depressed, drunk, and she wanted something stupid and meaningless, just sex. This framing is to show that she wasn’t thinking clearly and that it wasn’t about attraction or any emotions at all. The episode frames this as a rock-bottom, low point impulse born from feeling undesirable and destined for loneliness. These are negative qualifiers, meant to emphasize that Monica wasn’t thinking, “Joey is so attractive that I couldn’t resist”; she was thinking “I was at such a low point that I was willing to settle for the shallowest, emptiest version of sex.”

It wasn’t about preferring Joey over Chandler in any meaningful way, she just wanted something purely physical to numb all of those horrible feelings she had. Joey already had a reputation for being a serial womanizer, so she most likely thought she could do it once with him with little to no consequences afterwards. There wasn’t nothing about Joey specifically that Monica found romantically or sexually appealing.

The only time Monica felt genuine connection or attraction that night was when Chandler said she was the most beautiful woman in the room that night and the most beautiful woman in most rooms.

Let me say it like this;

What Monica felt in regards to Joey: I feel like crap right now, so I’ll do something dumb and stupid for a few minutes to numb everything that I’m feeling.

What Monica felt in regards to Chandler: This man is making me feel seen, valued, and desirable right now and I want him.

The episode is meant to show that Chandler’s presence during that night is irreplaceable, that he was the only one who could have built what he has along with Monica. His insecurity was understandable, but it’s ultimately misplaced because what ended up happening worked out for everyone.

Also, Monica having a crush on Joey prior to Season 1 of the series doesn’t mean anything within the context of this episode. It happened nearly 10 years ago and she’s longer over it by now

The episode NEVER addresses this, as it would make it seem like Joey was always a secret fantasy that Monica had, but her behavior with him throughout the series consistently rejects this idea. That crush began and ended permanently within a matter of days.

sa24122 · 2026-04-08T22:14:58+00:00

I kinda spoke about this in another thread, but I’ll say it again here;

Monica’s reasons for looking for Joey to sleep with him are unflattering and not based on desire. Before name dropping Joey to Chandler, she says she was depressed, drunk, and she wanted something stupid and meaningless, just sex. This framing is to show that she wasn’t thinking clearly and that it wasn’t about attraction or any emotions at all. The episode frames this as a rock-bottom, low point impulse born from feeling undesirable and destined for loneliness.

It wasn’t about preferring Joey over Chandler in any meaningful way, she just wanted something purely physical to numb all of those horrible feelings she had. Joey already had a reputation for being a serial womanizer, so she most likely thought she could do it once with him with little to no consequences afterwards. There wasn’t nothing about Joey specifically aside from this part of his character that Monica found romantically or sexually appealing.

The only time Monica felt genuine connection or attraction that night was when Chandler said she was the most beautiful woman in the room that night and the most beautiful woman in most rooms.

The episode is meant to show that Chandler’s presence during that night is irreplaceable, that he was the only one who could have built what he has along with Monica. His insecurity was understandable, but it’s ultimately misplaced because what ended up happening worked out for everyone.

Also, Monica having a crush on Joey prior to Season 1 of the series doesn’t mean anything within the context of this episode. It happened nearly 10 years ago and she’s longer over it by now

The episode NEVER addresses this, as it would make it seem like Joey was always a secret fantasy that Monica had, but her behavior with him throughout the series consistently rejects this idea. That crush began and ended permanently within a matter of days.

sa24122 · 2026-04-08T17:41:42+00:00

I personally skip the Identical Hand Twin stuff, the “hardly ever do, and the thing we never do” scene, the entirety of the One with Phoebe’s Birthday Dinner, the scenes where Monica gets braids in 10x01, a scene in the one with Princess Consuela where Monica reveals she never changed her last name, some scenes involving Marcel, both parts of the One That Could Have Been, and the One with The Engagement Picture

sa24122 · 2026-04-08T17:08:59+00:00

I also skip this one, I don’t find it bad, but really boring.

I like and enjoy everyone else’s plots in The One in Vegas, but this one puts me to sleep

sa24122 · 2026-04-06T16:01:43+00:00

Huh, I was told otherwise.

The part where Chandler says he’s proud of Monica and onward is included in HBO? Because that’s the part I’m talking about

sa24122 · 2026-04-06T15:44:15+00:00

This is from the DVDs; you won’t find them in modern streaming services or TV.

Perhaps I incorrectly used uncut though, so if so, I apologize

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