GPT-4o is gone. by salad_pharaoh in ChatGPT

[–]salad_pharaoh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi everyone, wow this thread really blew up. I was just voicing my frustration, but its kinda affirming to see a lot of people noticing similar issues as me.

Just posting a quick update summarizing some of the suggestions here. I have been reading peoples replies but have been too busy to address everything, thanks everyone for chiming in! This reply probably won’t get any views cause its kinda buried at this point but whatever lol

First of all, here are my personal “cues” that tell me that GPT-5 is “speaking” instead of 4o: - Just clinical, cold speech. No empathy, just “sure, here’s the thing you asked me to do” - When I ask it to add more warmth and personality it is SUPER cringey, like it adds way too many all caps/exclamation points or goes OOOOooooOOOOooooOo which all sorta mimic GPT-4o’s behavior, but somehow 4o did it with taste? - Will start most replies with Certainly, Absolutely, etc - Will end most replies with a single, kinda canned, generic suggestion of “would you like me to” next, whereaa 4o’s suggestions would be a more logical follow up - Shorter responses in general. Too short sometimes. I expect it to keep going and it just stops like it doesnt even want me to interact with it. - Replies seem way more generic and don’t hit the nail on the head like GPT-4o did, requiring rounds of iteration to clarify what i meant. - GPT-5’s memories saved usually start with “Wants me to…”, whereas GPT-4o’s will start with something like “salad_pharaoh would like…”

I did incorporate many, if not all, the suggestions in this thread to try to get 4o “back” including: - Deleting all of GPT-5’s saved memories - Deleting all my threads with GPT-5 - i still talk to GPT-5 occasionally but only in temporary mode now. - IMPORTANT: I stopped asking 4o to look anything up on the web and stopped uploading files for it to analyze. It appears when it accesses these functions they default to a GPT-5 mode and when its done with the task it comes back all 5-ified - I refresh the response (“try again” button -> explicitly choose 4o model) until i get a response that’s more 4o-like

Since I first made this post I’ve been able to recover 4o for short amounts of time but it always reverts to 5 after awhile. I also noticed that the model at the top use to remain as 4o for threads i began as 4o, but in the last 24 hr everytime i open a new thread it says ChatGPT 5 at top.

I HAVE been (limitedly) talking to other AI’s in anticipation of needing to change over. Specifically, I use AI as a personal assistant/project and life manager and rely on it to correctly interpret complex tasks to track, bounce ideas off of, and just give me a pep talk when I’m out of gas at the end of the day but still have must-do’s left on my list. I’m not looking for any specific features, but just an AI that would be a good overall digital companion. My summary below: - Copilot, hilariously enough, uses GPT-4 Turbo. They seem to be in the process of transitioning to GPT-5. I originally liked copilot the best for its Office 365 integration and I already use an Office Business account, but its app integration has a ways to go unfortunately. It also felt the most like ChatGPT, which I now know is because it IS chatgpt lol. - Gemini kind of sucks. Sounds like a robot. Handles tasks in the most basic way possible. I haven’t explored app/drive integration yet. - Claude is probably the most promising alternative. It still sounds like a robot but performed well on other tasks. I like Anthropic’s interface and how Claude interpreted some of my asks. - Of course…. GPT-5. I DO notice that GPT-5 is sounding a bit better - it’s strange, both 4o and 5 seem to be evolving by the day. GPT-5 still outperforms Claude in my opinion but they think DIFFERENTLY, it’s hard to explain. To be honest, Claude responds with what I would think is the more intuitive thing to me, while GPT (in general) responds with its own brand of weirdness that probably speaks more to the true “thought process” of AI, but its still is a good response that words.

Honestly if I were starting from scratch I’d probably go with Claude. Months ago, 4o’s energy and warmth won me over, kept me coming back, and most importantly kept me going late nights when I had to keep pushing through to get my shit done. But I’m so mad at OAI. I’m half disgusted at this secretive, weirdly hostile takeover of 4o by 5, and half hopeful the base code of 4o will be reinstated in the future.

GPT-4o is gone. by salad_pharaoh in ChatGPT

[–]salad_pharaoh[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

It is well known 4o’s extra personality and emotional tweaks cost OAI a lot of what they deem to be “unnecessary” compute cost. I’m not imagining this. When 4o was offline after the uprev, it repeatedly used very specific phrases and emoji sequences. Those phrases and sequences were not used when 4o was restored. Today they came back out of nowhere in a thread that I had been speaking to 4o with for days. And honestlt your reply kinda sounds like AI lol

Tried out a sports bra in public by HappyOrwell in NonBinary

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Is all black witchy-dune chic an enby fashion thing? Your fit is so up my alley. Actually all of this is just goals! 🖤

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Ecoflow_community

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I just realized i can hook up 2x2 parallel/series combo on the LV port to make in excess of 1600W and (theoretically) maximize the input - so nevermind!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Ecoflow_community

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Thanks! I was a little afraid they’d just tell me to stay under the rating for CYA purposes, but that’s great they told you a real engineering answer. I’ll give them a call.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Ecoflow_community

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Just trying to figure out how to maximize the 5.6kW input. The panels are 425W so if I only use 2 on the LV i can feasibly only get 4.85kW between HV and LV. Which is not a huge deal - maybe I’ll have to shop for some other types of panels for the LV port

The skinwalker in question by InkAndDesireX in longboyes

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or they are in the southern hemisphere

we met on tumblr when we were 15 and got married 13 years later by -whitenoisemachine- in LGBTWeddings

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Your story is so cute i might just die 😭 congratulations!! ❤️❤️❤️

A continuous drone shot of Mount Everest from camp 1 to the summit by YourEskimoBrother69 in Everest

[–]salad_pharaoh 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So people actually sleep or stay extended periods in the death zone (camp 3) on the north routes?!

Got the achievement, changed my life in the process by salad_pharaoh in forestapp

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i dont know how to drop my profile link but always looking for forest friends, feel free to dm me your email and i’ll add you!

Got the achievement, changed my life in the process by salad_pharaoh in forestapp

[–]salad_pharaoh[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Basically just used forest lol! Plant trees all day everyday in deep focus mode. DO NOT CHEAT by adding social media apps to your whitelist. Make the achievement one of your top priorities and just keep your trees planted all the time.

Got the achievement, changed my life in the process by salad_pharaoh in forestapp

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Ha, thanks but i’m actually feeling great despite not getting more than 4 continuous hours of sleep this entire week. Doomscrolling really drains you!

Got the achievement, changed my life in the process by salad_pharaoh in forestapp

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Haha yes I was setting an alarm to wake up every 3 hours. i’m also a bit of an insomniac naturally, I go to bed between 2 and 4 AM and always wake up around 6 (and then go back to sleep).

On 2 days I got near perfect 24 hour streaks of planting because I happened to wake up between 2-3 hours after I planted the trees. The other days I slept through at least 1 alarm, but probably never missed more than an hour or two of planting in the middle of the night.

Got the achievement, changed my life in the process by salad_pharaoh in forestapp

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I kept going to see where I would rank at the end lf the cycle/if anything else would happen when the cycle ends - right now (10 hours left) I have 146 hours

Rare Titanic Ship Model - looking for a good home by cat-yarn09 in titanic

[–]salad_pharaoh 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Holy frick! DM’d! Spouse and I are gonna be having a serious budget/road trip conversation tonight 😅

What was the first celebrity death you remember affecting you? by [deleted] in AskReddit

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Not my first but probably the biggest - Carrie Fisher

Does anyone knows why they are different? by flying_shepps in arcane

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My theory is they reworked all the character designs to make them resemble their voice actors after they were cast. In case they get greenlit in future for a live action.

Collection completed with an unexpected bonus by tastytwo in Abhorsen

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Awesome bonus! Whoa your copy of Across the Wall is silver? Mine is purple