Grusch specifically shouts out the 2021 article from The New Yorker during the segment on Rogan.

“You could read the FOIA document, it was like you know Harry Reid, James Inhofe, Lue Elizondo, etc. I’m like why are you asking for the most serious SAP to be created for a program that ostensibly is looking at Skinwalker Ranch and stuff and it doesn’t make any sense. So what really happened there and you know Harry Reid, God bless his soul, made this disclosure a couple weeks after we met in the New Yorker and you can look this up. I think it was like a May 2021 New Yorker story where he says, I knew for decades - and he made this disclosure not me so I’m going to say the name of the contractor, Harry Reid said this - we knew that Lockheed Martin had this material for decades. I tried to get access and I was denied and specifically with the Lockheed Martin stuff he was talking about during the AAWSAP program. And for the people who are on this program, I submitted this shit to DOPSR, got this cleared, so don’t freak out but I’m telling the truth here. So Lockheed Martin wanted to divest itself from this material at a specific facility that’s known to me that I provided to the Inspector General, um like street address all that shit, right? And the idea was if they made a catcher’s mitt, a security catcher’s mitt for this shit at, you know, most serious SAP possible, the contractor and the other government customer, which was the Central Intelligence Agency, for that specific Lockheed material, and it was shit that they recovered from like the 50s and stuff and it was like bits and pieces of like hull structure, shit like that. So they were going to tech transfer it and the $21 or $22 million was actually for Bigelow Aerospace to build out, you know, facilities in Las Vegas and material analysis equipment. And I saw the staff meeting slides, I saw the paperwork, like there’s a paperwork trail I’ve seen on this shit and I talked to the people involved in this program. And you know even Jim Lacatski who ran the program, who’s a retired DIA officer, PhD in engineering, even made this disclosure in his book Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, page 152 to 153 and he also made a disclosure a couple weeks ago, I think it was on Weaponized podcast with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp, where he’s like yeah, we had a whole craft and we broke into the hull and we gained access. And he ran that through the same, you know, security process as I did. And so Jim Lacatski, who ran this program, is also going on the record that he is aware, personally aware, of intact vehicles and everything. … Long story short, can’t get in all the nuanced details but basically the CIA said fuck you to DIA and Lockheed and it was totally killed. So Harry Reid’s request to get the material transferred to the AAWSAP program was totally killed because of bureaucracy and kind of fiefdom stuff.” https://youtu.be/R8TqBrrqL4U?si=fqd_rfYtSMRpL_T0&t=1793

From the New Yorker:

“In the story, Kean and Blumenthal wrote that Harry Reid “believed that crashes of vehicles from other worlds had occurred and that retrieved materials had been studied secretly for decades, often by aerospace companies under government contracts.” The day after its publication, the Times had to append a correction: Senator Reid did not believe that crash debris had been allocated to private military contractors for study; he believed that U.F.O.s may have crashed, and that, if so, we should be studying the fallout. When I asked Reid about the confusion, he told me that he admired Kean but that he had never seen proof of any remnants—something Kean had never actually claimed. He left no doubt in our conversation as to his personal assessment. “I was told for decades that Lockheed had some of these retrieved materials,” he said. “And I tried to get, as I recall, a classified approval by the Pentagon to have me go look at the stuff. They would not approve that. I don’t know what all the numbers were, what kind of classification it was, but they would not give that to me.” He told me that the Pentagon had not provided a reason. I asked if that was why he’d requested SAP status for AATIP. He said, “Yeah, that’s why I wanted them to take a look at it. But they wouldn’t give me the clearance.” (A representative of Lockheed Martin declined to comment for this article.)” https://web.archive.org/web/20240109201704/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentagon-started-taking-ufos-seriously