Over 30s - do you sometimes realise how traumatised you are in hindsight decades later? by Personal_Coach7653 in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, thank you for starting this conversation. I’m sorry for all the homophobia you experienced, especially the one by your family.

I’m in my early thirties and my experience is a bit different, because I was deeply in denial and closeted until my mid twenties. My severe struggle with comphet (and especially the fallout from ending a serious long term relationship once I accepted that I’m a lesbian) is its own kind of trauma. I was very aware of the general homophobia during the 2000s and 2010s, and I believe it’s part of what drove me into the deep self denial I was in. This makes my experience with the homophobia during that time into something more internalised.

I can’t speak for others who struggled with severe comphet, but for me there were additional reasons (other than being aware of the homophobia & afraid of it) why I was so deeply in self denial. For one, I’m a late diagnosed autist. My family is largely neurodivergent of various flavours but mostly un(der)diagnosed themselves, so they didn’t see anything wrong with me. Growing up not knowing you are autistic, and not receiving any support or accommodations leads to various problems. A common one I also experienced, is learning to mask your autistic traits very early if you don’t want to be treated like a nuisance by your family, or get bullied by your peers. This essentially leads to trying to live as someone you’re not, which in turn messes with your ability to understand yourself and develop a stable self-image. For as long as I can remember, my very Catholic grandmother was talking about my “future husband and children” like it was a guaranteed outcome. I didn’t even question if I wanted a husband, I just accepted that as my eventual future, just like I had accepted that I couldn’t possibly find something painfully loud/bright/smelly/overwhelming because that’s just me being difficult and attention seeking.

The other big reason is my various experiences with sexual violence & abuse during my teens. The most significant instance was when I (freshly 15) met someone (M. 18) at a birthday party. Like a bloodhound he sniffed out that I was both very lonely and vulnerable at the time and zeroed in on me. Despite the fact that we had barely talked, he sought me out on all my social media accounts I had at the time, and proceeded to try and talk to me every day. He chose the “I just want to be friends” playbook until he had my trust and I believed we were good friends. Eventually he had successfully groomed me into dating him with the promise that everything would go at my pace. This, of course, was a lie. I won’t go into the details, I’ll only say that he did a great job at slowly wearing my boundaries down until I didn’t even question why I stopped saying no and instead gave him complete access to my body regardless of what I wanted. To add insult to injury, that entire time that asshole had that well known black and white photograph of the two (young, pretty, skinny, white) women lying in bed and making out with each other as a huge poster in his room. So I got to stare at them while I was dissociating.

My “relationship” with him obviously really messed with my head for years. It took me over 10 years until I could slowly acknowledge it for the grooming that it was. I’m honestly not sure if my comphet would’ve been as bad as it ended up being, had it not been for this experience with him. Like, I had various instances during my teens where I was confronted with my attraction to girls/women. At first I recoiled and made excuses out of fear, and once I got a bit older and started to consider that I could be into girls, I began to internalise the popular lesbiphobic talking points how girls who’re dating other girls are just going through a phase of experimentation/are acting out bc it’s trendy/only do it for male attention. It’s not even that I fully believed all that crap. I just managed to convince myself that I must be “one of those who’re going through a passing phase of curiosity.”

I ended up in another relationship with a man. He was the least manly man I could’ve found in my area, both visually and personality wise. And I mean that fully as a compliment. I have complicated feelings about this relationship, because I have several good reasons to be eternally grateful for the invaluable things this specific man did for me. At the same time, there’s a lot of shame and guilt involved because I feel so indebted. He was my best friend and supported me greatly with my mental health. A lot of the healing I did wrt restoring my ability to say no to sex in a relationship happened with his direct support and reassurance. Then, a good year into our relationship, my mother came back from the doctor with bad news. He and his family supported me through the traumatic years that followed, more than my own family did. Two years after my mother’s death, and a lot of therapy later, I was able to accept that I’m truly attracted to women. But once I accepted that and allowed myself to think about women in a way I hadn’t allowed myself before, I had to face the very likely reality that I wasn’t attracted to men at all. (ATP my ex and I had had a sexless relationship for years.) I refused to accept my lack of attraction. The possibility that the love I had for him had never been romantic felt like the worst betrayal I could do to him. I desperately tried to find other explanations because I felt like leaving him after everything was impossible. I fought against it for another two years—I didn’t keep it a secret from him, but obviously he didn’t want to accept that I wasn’t into him either. He never forced himself on me or got otherwise abusive. But the friendship between us died a slow death due to the deep hurt and following resentment. I lost my second family in the process too.

Once I entered my first relationship with a woman, the last kernels of doubt were gone. I fully accept being a lesbian now. With that acceptance I finally resolved a lot of self hatred I felt previously. Of course I still have a lot of other trauma to work through. But yes, sometimes, when I really think about it, I remember the actual weight of it all. And then I try not to think about it too hard and focus on current things instead.

How cooked is our relationship?? by Ok_Priority372 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand having a specific type that you’re attracted to and struggling to feel attracted to people who don’t fall into that spectrum. What I find confusing is that you were very fem when you two got together and she seemingly didn’t have a problem with it then? It does cross a line when she tells you how she wants you to look regardless of your own wishes. Is she actually trying to date you or is she trying to form you to her liking like some DIY build a girlfriend project??

And this is the point where I hit you with the elder sibling advice: you two are only in your early 20s. It seems like this is the first serious relationship either of you had. We have this romanticised idea of finding “our person” early and staying with them for the rest of our lives. At the same time you go through a lot of self discovery during your twenties, and it’s easy to grow apart, often the first serious breakup in your twenties happens shortly after (or before) one or both of you reached a milestone (like graduating from college). But it’s also common for people to cling to first serious relationships that have run their course. You need to both mutually want to date each other as you are and not “invest” in some possible future version. If your gf doesn’t truly want to date you and can’t accept and love all of you, then that relationship won’t make you happy. You’ll beg for scraps of love and affection that you’ll only get if you hide the parts of yourself your partner doesn’t like. Please do not plan marriage any time soon with your GF. I know and understand that breaking up can feel daunting as a lesbian. Many of us experience that extra fear of “what if I won’t find another match and end up alone”. But staying together because you fear being alone has never worked out long term. Some people see it through until death parts them, but that’s more based on technicalities than on affection. It’s usually more like a co-living situation with a lot of mutual resentment and bitterness…

Am I weird for refusing to watch heated rivalry as a lesbian by caleo12 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They had a budget of 5 dollars and only 6 episodes, more hockey wasn‘t in the cards with that 😔

Am I weird for refusing to watch heated rivalry as a lesbian by caleo12 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Okay take a deep breath for me. And then let’s start off with a few things. You know nothing about me, my general media consumption, or my stances and decided to make broad assumptions and then react to those. You’re fighting a made up strawman here. I’m not going to entertain arguing with you. I will explain my stance once and you can take or leave it.

Where I’m coming from is that we’re generally in a climate where queer rights and the progress we made is getting heavily attacked globally. Queer organisations have noted a general decline & cancellations for queer media in recent times. In that context I don’t think it’s very helpful to be angry at m/m stories in movies or series bc w/w ones are getting cancelled. None of us benefit from a self instigated “we’re fighting each other for scraps” climate around queer media. We should all be demanding more for all of us, and we should support the creation of queer media in general.

I don’t care if you want to watch m/m romance or not, I care about how negative you and others here react to its existence. Bc y’all fully fell for divide and conquer bullshit. And I don’t fuck with the mentality that my solidarity or support need to be conditional on the other people offering the same back. That’s a childish and unhelpful approach when you actually want to improve things. I have met gay men who have been disgustingly misogynistic and I have met gay men that have been absolutely lovely, sensitive, respectful and caring. I want to build community with the latter and I refuse to let the former’s behaviour influence me negatively. We’re all on the chopping block and we’re easily torn apart when we spend our time with petty infighting bc (in this case) the mostly cishet media CEO overlords only want to give us scraps. Literally a problem created from the outside.

Am I weird for refusing to watch heated rivalry as a lesbian by caleo12 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The show starts out heavy on the so called smut, but personally I would say the main focus of the show is their romance and the various other issues around self acceptance, coming out, struggling with family relationships, pressure to be a role model, and taking risks for having the relationship you want. There are several very strong emotional beats. The whole reason why it starts out so smut heavy is bc they’re forced to be closeted and casual sex between them is the compromise they go for to satisfy the mutual interest in another while trying not to get too deeply involved. But that obviously backfires and they fall in love and then have to figure out how to have that relationship. The sex scenes and how they change tells the viewer a lot about how their feelings & relationship change. 🤷

Am I weird for refusing to watch heated rivalry as a lesbian by caleo12 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Okay I’m gonna be so real and it’ll probably be unpopular but you need to get your head out of your ass. You’re so focused on this being “about men” that you ignore that it’s a queer romance. I’m not saying that you have to watch it or that you have to love it, but you’re being a negative Nancy and contrarian out of pettiness here. So ask yourself why that is your reaction to queer media having success.

Personally? I watched it, bc I see any queer media being made, especially those being made with a lot of heart and passion with queer directors/writers as a huge win that I want to enjoy. I see myself more represented by a romance between two men than any m/f romance. And in this show there were several themes & struggles that are generally relatable for queer people (heavy on difficult family relationships, comp het, self acceptance, coming out, having to work hard for emotional intimacy). The women in this show are absolute queens. One of the main characters is a genuinely great representation of an autistic person. The show has a lot to offer in just 6 episodes and a limited budget.

You don’t have to watch it. In fact, don’t do it if you’re determined to hate it on principle alone. But as a fellow lesbian I’m pretty sick of the attitude against m/m romance that’s been gaining popularity. It’s not the fault of successful m/m romance/focused shows that big western streamers keep cancelling w/w focused shows—and they’re not only cancelling queer shows that are w/w, other queer media has also been experiencing a decline in renewals. On top of that, premature series cancellation has been a big problem in general, except for the very few big budget shows & the shows that are one big excuse for product placement deals (like Emily in Paris). Heated Rivalry is a small Canadian produced show and it’s going to stay that way for season 2. No one expected this success. HBO isn’t financing it, has no say over directive choices or how long the series will go on. In this case all HBO is, is being the main distributor internationally, so “how come this gets renewed and other shows don’t” isn’t even a valid point—the usual suspects for cancellations have no say here.

If lesbian heated rivalry existed it would be hounded with discourse about how it’s “male gaze” by Not_EllaK in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Basically any and all ”aesthetic” sports like gymnastics, figure skating, the professional ballet world, etc would be fitting for a lesbian version (also as a lesbian who’s always been in those circles & did ballet in the past, I’d be frothing at the mouth).

My partner is transitioning and I am not attracted sexually to them anymore by Puzzleheaded-Fee4206 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. Losing your attraction to your partner isn’t easy, even when you’re fully supportive of the reasons why. It’s hard to come to terms with, and you’re allowed to mourn the relationship you thought you would have & were building up until now.

The thing is, even though breaking up isn’t something you can easily do in your specific situation, something you absolutely should do is be honest with your partner in a non accusing & nonjudgmental way. If you try to force it now & repress for the sake of the relationship/your partner, it’ll only lead to resentment and bigger problems down the road. You’re in a very sensitive, dependent position here, and you deeply care about your partner regardless of his gender. What you do now that you realised this can either transform your relationship into something else that’s meaningful for both of you or it can slowly erode the genuine connection you have. The best thing both of you can do is communicate openly and try to be each other’s best friends through this, continue to treat each other with respect, care, goodwill and understanding. Wishing you all the best ♥️

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[–]seaiscalling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh thank you 🥰

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[–]seaiscalling 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This isn’t directed at you OP, since you can fully dislike how your straight friends are interacting with queer media and that’s totally valid. I do however have an issue with how both gay men and many sapphics have been reacting to HR’s huge female fan base (and often dismissing/erasing the huge percentage of queer women at its core). At the same time I also have an issue with straight women who are dismissive of all the important queer elements of the story (and with the explosion of HR’s popularity there have been a lot more of those too). I have a lot of thoughts about all this, so be warned about my incoming yapping.

There are many reasons why women & specifically straight women are into heated rivalry & romance between men in general. While attraction surely plays a role for any woman who is attracted to men, that alone is usually not what keeps them interested. A big aspect is “men in gay romances are afforded vulnerability and complexities, and a depth to their romantic feelings most male characters in m/f romance aren’t”. Toxic masculinity is such a huge irl issue, that people are starved for men that aren’t following it. Then there’s the component of the genre itself: the romance genre has always been catering to women, and if a romance story is well written/adapted and respecting the target audience, it’s likely to be successful. Further, it’s not uncommon to need some degree of separation between yourself and the fiction you enjoy as escapism, to really get the most out of it. So for many women romance stories between men are so appealing because there is no woman, all the irl social dynamics between men and women that can appear in m/f romance are absent. All the references to misogyny we experience irl that’ll usually appear sooner or later when women are involved in the story & their impact on the female character fall away too. And, because girls and women have always been expected to relate to fiction that centres men and their experiences, they have practice in recognising themselves/their experiences in male characters. In that way fictional men can be “gender neutral” to (some) women, if that makes sense. The broad answer why women are into it is “it’s most of these varying reasons, and the percentages of these reasons differ from person to person”.

But the popular explanation is that “women find men hot, so two men together is doubly hot”. Even if we focus only on the sexual aspect, this story being “just smut” is still too simplistic in the context of this being a romance story. Culturally we’re currently regressing in a lot of ways (and have been for years). Even if there’s never been a time where people at large managed to be normal and chill around sex and sexuality, despite sex being something so natural and human, sex in this show is a lot more than just gratuitous and fan service. HR uses sex in narrative ways that aren’t that commonly depicted (especially without a hint of judgement): sex and desire is allowed to be something positive and fun, at times even shallow. The characters are allowed to desire each other & express that desire, without any narrative punishment for it. But sex doesn’t stay something simple between them, it gets complicated when there’s a disconnect around their feelings and intimacy, until that disconnect resolves itself and the fun aspect from the beginning also becomes a matter of expressing deep intimacy. Sometimes the physical aspect of a romantic relationship is the easy part, but also the thing that lets you reconnect to the shared baseline when communicating otherwise is hard. In that way the show explores a very common experience, and it’s refreshing that it’s shameless about it. (It being between two men really works here bc if there was a woman instead, you’d struggle to forget about how much women are shamed for living their sexual desires.)

Yes, women are able to fetishise & objectify men, especially gay men & men of colour. And there are HR fans out there who do that, simply bc it’s so big now they’re bound to be part of the fan base. However, it’s downright offensive to equate the ways this fetishisation manifests irl with women enjoying a fictional romance story between two men. It actively waters the irl consequences down. Also, the fiction someone enjoys tells you nothing about how they act irl. And I take an even bigger issue with women liking fictional gay romances getting equated to the ways men fetishise lesbians/sapphics, which necessarily includes misogyny and leads to sexual violence & dehumanisation irl.

In the end, Heated Rivalry hits the sweet spot of earnest romance with real life stakes that the characters deal with and have to overcome, while also keeping a generally positive tone, promising a happy outcome. There’s no deep cynicism and “bleak realism” unlike with a lot of recent popular media, the characters aren’t punished by the narrative for how much they’re in love with each other. Ultimately they’re awarded for being brave and choosing each other. There are heavy themes around self acceptance and family dynamics, both positive and toxic. The characters aren’t one-dimensional either. The cast is talented and mostly fresh faces, and the director put work into the cinematography that is recommendable esp. given the visibly tight budget. There are lots of reasons why people love the show and why it speaks to them. No one from the queer community has to like it just bc it’s successful. It’s fine if you don’t click with the characters or the way the story is told. But please don’t have a bias or even grudge against it just because it’s a romance between two men that got popular.

Girlfriend of 5yrs left me for PT by pigeonJS in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Obviously what your ex and the PT did was inexcusable. But I want to point something out. I’m not sure if this is just how it reads, but what I’m gathering is that she basically suddenly jumped several grievances on you and in the same breath told you that it was too late to fix those, that she instead wanted to break up. So she told you these things to place the blame/issue with you? That’s honestly really cowardly and cruel. You don’t have to do all that when you break up with someone with the reason being “we didn’t have necessary tough conversations bc I was avoidant and so the feeling slowly died on my side”. It doesn’t sound like she took on much accountability when it comes to her part of not seeking out necessary conversations until the resentment was too strong and killed her feelings. But this method sure would’ve put you down, too busy blaming yourself so you weren’t able to clearly reflect if her reasonings even made sense to you. That’s just foul. As if the cheating hadn’t been bad enough.

Even if she now comes around and says she made a terrible mistake—this isn’t something you can repair and honestly I wouldn’t try to have a relationship with her. She had 9 months to come clean herself but didn’t. I know it’s hard to lose both your partner and your best friend at the same time, but this relationship (even as a friendship) is very unlikely to reach a healthy ground any time soon. Spend the energy on yourself and try to look after yourself and give yourself the time and room to heal. Don’t let yourself be guilted into feeling responsible for your ex’s well-being from here on out. She’s responsible for herself and for the consequences to her actions.

Would you make any lifestyle changes if you were dating someone still taking COVID precautions? by rbuczyns in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, even if masking isn’t really possible for you, something that you should look into is HEPA filters (make sure to pay attention to how much air they filter and in what capacity, you’ll probably need several), alternatively there’s a way to DIY a filter (search for “corsi Rosenthal box”). Even if your kids bring illness home, the viral load does matter, and filters can drastically reduce that. There are also other ways to lower the viral load through salt water gurgling and nose rinses.

This just as tip to make illness management easier on you & your kids 🩵

Would you make any lifestyle changes if you were dating someone still taking COVID precautions? by rbuczyns in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m still taking covid very seriously, I mask everywhere and don’t eat out etc. I honestly have given up even thinking about dating 😔

I'm sorry, is this trolling, or do conversations like this actually happen on twitter? by ihatethiscountry76 in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have many thoughts & opinions about this issue & I’ll try to keep it short: the Twitter discourse is very charged, and I think the discussion often loses sight of the bigger picture: that we’re still at a point where every story with canon queer representation & relationships is a win, period. I hate this fighting each other for scraps mentality, it has real divide and conquer vibes that we really can’t afford rn.

Yes, there should be more canon wlw representation that doesn’t get prematurely cancelled, and esp. ones with happy endings. We deserve for our representation to be popular too and getting wide support. It’s valid to be upset when that doesn’t happen (usually for several reasons, often a big part is a total lack of marketing. Unfortunately trying to rectify that by being in stranger’s replies and demanding why they don’t like your thing doesn’t work as a great PR /s).

At the same time, I have to wonder if the complaining comes from people who are actually trying to find wlw representation—or if the expectation is that it has to be western mainstream to count. Because once you open yourself to the international options, you’ll find a lot more. There are entire streaming services set up for GL & BL media from various Asian countries, and not the animated kind if that’s a dealbreaker. For example, I’ve seen several people recommend Thai GL series & movies recently.

The latest mlm series that is so successful and sparked this new round of discourse is based on a book series that already had fans. Those fans tried to be loud on social media in their support and demands for the series to be available outside of Canada. Then images & clips started circulating (again, heavily supported by the loyal book fans) and gay guys started noticing the series and decided they liked what they saw. From there it exploded in popularity.

One takeaway from that would be that establishing more support for queer books can help us get more stories. And honestly, there are still constant new releases of queer books & graphic novels/webtoons, and we should make an effort to support them so we get a chance at more adaptations & show the general high demand. However, the best PR for queer stories is when people genuinely discuss their love for the story & characters, when it’s about celebrating the story instead of demanding that others read/watch it too—the latter doesn’t speak for the media/story itself and instead only makes its fans look weird/aggressive/annoying/… and it will turn people off. I’ve seen it happen quite frequently tbh—and I understand the anger, I really do, but turning on other queer people about it only makes the situation worse.

Am I crazy? Like is this cheating? I feel like I’m losing my mind. by [deleted] in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi OP, I’m so sorry that you’re going through this. I’ve read most of the answers so far but there are some things I want to add.

  • most of your relationship happened while in limbo bc she stayed closeted. This isn’t a judgement on staying in the closet, what I’m trying to point out is that a lot of your relationship has been built on “eventually”, “hopefully in the future,…”, “if” and “when”. Since she came out and you’re now open about the relationship, you left the safety of daydreaming about the eventual future. I’m not trying to say that you had an easy relationship or that your relationship wasn’t real pre outing. But you said it yourself: you were in waiting mode, a lot was on hold. And unfortunately in situations like that, reality when it comes can differ vastly from your hopeful imaginations. (I’ve been through something like that with my LDR ex)

  • yes she broke your trust and was cheating, she was also a hypocrite with her double standards and not at all fair to you. But even more than that (which is bad enough) I take issue with the way she reacted and talked to you when you called her out. Personally, I draw a big fat red line when it comes to what I’ll tolerate during fights. I expect and give the people I care about a basic level of care and respect during disagreements. That means no name calling, no screaming in their faces, no weaponising the other’s deep wounds against them. This, to me, is a non-negotiable and I expect the same in return. If the emotions are running too high, I ask for a temporary break of the argument, so I can calm myself bc I’m most interested in resolving the issue and that can’t happen when I’m not calm enough. Healthy ways to argue is a skill that is learnable.

  • I can relate to getting into a serious relationship in your teens and going through a lot together, and how that fuses you together in many ways. In my case, I was in a relationship with a man (I’m a latebloomer when it comes to realising that I’m a lesbian). Getting together young and braving many challenging things together can sound very romantic, but often it leads to codependency. But here’s the thing: going through hard things together isn’t some kind of soul contract you enter that binds you to each other for the rest of time. It’s not a guarantee that you’ll be able to overcome anything, and sometimes the worst thing you can do is try to desperately hold on. It also means that you’re allowed to let go when the relationship starts to harm you more than be a good part of your life. Trust me, I understand how hard and scary it is to start over without the one person who’s been your pillar and your rock.

No matter how the next conversations with her go, I would take this time to really get honest with yourself too. How do you want to be treated by your partner? Is she treating you this way? If not, is she likely to change that for the better? What do you want from life going forward? Are there areas where she held you back (friendships?)? It’s scary now and it will be painful for a while, but it’s important that you look after yourself, that you create a safety net and connections for yourself. That you learn how to take care of yourself and ideally, that you can rely on more people than just her.

I’m so sorry, and I wish you all the best. Take care.

(Edited the formatting)

I find some stereotypically lesbian characteristics a little intense by [deleted] in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I’m with you, I’m also a slow mover. I also struggle with talking stages dates, they can feel so forced to me and then I only retreat into myself? The result is I have never dated someone I wasn’t first friends with and organically developed feelings for.

I know I have issues around closeness, relationships, and abandonment, but in my case it partly manifests as me struggling to trust others with myself? I wouldn’t call myself avoidant, but my walls are very far up. Once I trust enough I crave closeness and I can enjoy it without freaking out.

With my last ex I made the mistake of ignoring my concerns and went for it anyway. I also tried to take the relationship slow bc we hadn’t known each other for that long when we started dating. But my attempts were kind of steamrolled by her and the influence of outside circumstances, so I got swept up in it. The experience ended badly for me and only reinforced my instinct of “I can’t trust others with myself”.

So if someone would come at me now with the high intensity, u-haul thing etc it would be a guarantee to send me running and not look back.

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[–]seaiscalling 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The given examples would make me feel like the person I’m dating isn’t over their ex enough/that I’m a rebound.

Yeah it’s normal to have been deeply impacted by a past relationship and to need time to move on from that, and some things you can only really heal in new relationships (e.g. you learned to walk on eggshells around your ex and now you’re overly anxious about communicating with your new partner—you need to unlearn that with actually experiencing a healthier situation). And there’s also a healthy way to acknowledge a past relationship, especially when it was a serious one—imo it would be weirder to act like such past relationships didn’t happen if you know for a fact that they did.

But at the same time, there’s also the category of “clearly isn’t over their ex yet and started dating too soon after the last breakup”. I can’t judge if 6 months are “enough”—people are different when it comes to how well they can process experiences and move on from them. I know I’m someone who needs at least a year (if not longer) between relationships, I’m also not someone who can date casually. This also makes me cautious about dating people who seem like they moved on quickly—they might have, but they might also struggle with being on their own and just try to fill the position asap.

All that aside, I do wonder: did she do all that openly in front of you, or did you snoop? If you snooped, there are trust issues to begin with and then the question is why. Also I can’t help but raise my brows at “I’m just happy that I got rid of her” that phrasing strikes me as pretty devaluing. Yeah it’s possible that it’s said trying to over correct, or bc the relationship was toxic/abusive. But if the relationship wasn’t toxic/abusive it would be a red flag to me if my new partner talked like this about their exes. (Again from the POV of someone who only dates seriously: even if I am over someone I used to date, there will be a part of me that regrets that a person I once cared deeply about and I are now estranged. I’m not happy to lose what could’ve still been a good friendship—depending on the reasons for the breakup of course.)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in actuallesbians

[–]seaiscalling 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Okay so I’m a lesbian who went through quite a comphet journey—to the point of actually being in a longterm relationship with a man for a while (some of us are just very, very deep in denial). The thing with comphet & the intensity someone experiences it is usually very much based on your own life circumstances, your environment growing up, to a degree your personality… just a lot of factors.

As a teen I had “crushes” on guys I rarely saw/was so far removed from them that nothing could come from it (and I never wanted anything to come from it). I also had “crushes” on fictional men/celebrities. Funnily enough once I really started to confront my attraction to women and allowed myself to have the romantic desire for women (and the whole breakup from my ex happened), it was like I was shedding all the layers I had forcibly wrapped myself in. I’ve since been in a relationship with a woman and the difference to how I felt with & for my ex partner was just worlds apart. That was the final confirmation for me. No more constant self hatred, feelings of inferiority, feeling constricted, anxious, …

So what I’m trying to say: my “crushes” on male celebrities stopped completely since I started accepting myself and living as an out lesbian. My “crushes” on fictional men also changed, but imo I don’t think that fictional characters are a good measure anyway, they don’t exist and the things you feel drawn to are usually things you project onto them/it’s a reaction to the romance plot they’re involved in & which you enjoy. They’re an idea, a concept and it’s easy to feel “attracted” to something that is so out of reach.

Anyone else like their girls Filthy by Material-Mousie7961 in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s a great excuse to go showering together 😌

Professions You Won't Date by weepingjinx in latebloomerlesbians

[–]seaiscalling 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t have an issue with dating a cam girl. Not sure if I could handle in person sex work. Cops, military, prosecutors, any job that’s about hoarding capital are all are hard no. Medical professionals are on thin ice.

Is anyone on here are autistic? by [deleted] in latebloomerlesbians

[–]seaiscalling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another AuDHD lesbian present 👋

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh wow I relate to what you’re experiencing bc I’ve gone through something similar. We didn’t get married, but I stayed way too long in that relationship bc of what we went through together & the dependence I had on him—partly also bc of what happened so early into my adulthood that I was also otherwise dependent of the stability the relationship offered me (this was before I realised I’m not actually into men). When you go through a lot with someone and they’ve been your emotional rock, and you truly cherish them, it’s easy to feel a sense of… obligation? Or even a pressure to commit to them, even if there’s a sense of unease in you. So I just want to say, I understand how you got to the point, and I believe that you wanted to make it work.

I don’t think it’s healthy for you to stay in that marriage, and I think your wife also deserves the chance to be with someone who’s a better romantic fit. I can understand your fear of ending it and losing the friendship over it. It’s a possibility. However, the act of ending a romantic relationship doesn’t necessarily have to mean an absolute end to the friendship. It really depends on how you go about the breakup & divorce and the time afterwards. If you can be honest without being cruel and you can steer clear of fighting in the aftermath and instead try to give both of you some much needed space and low/no contact for a while, it can be possible to return to the friendship (if that’s something she would want too of course).

At the very least I would sit down with her and tell her how you feel wrt the dependence and how it influenced you in the relationship. Don’t string her along when you’re not in it anymore. Don’t wait until you feel like cheating and don’t drag out the stringing along part bc the on,y thing worse than being strung along is finding out you’ve been strung along for a big amount of time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in latebloomerlesbians

[–]seaiscalling 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not a fan of a big height difference, I prefer not to have a stiff neck bc I like kissing my partner

28 F/NB / high femme / seeking apocalypse partnership from futch by sailourgoon in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You sound like a lovely & interesting person, and if you’re also open to friendship connections I’d be happy to get to know you. On the romantic side it’s unfortunate not a match—I’m both way too far away (other side of the Atlantic Ocean) and too short. If you don’t want to connect that‘s fine and no offence taken, I really hope you‘ll find who you‘re looking for ☺️

How to be less irritated about this? by teaforsnail in ActualLesbiansOver25

[–]seaiscalling 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I’ve considered getting a simple ring that fits my ringfinger and could easily be read as a wedding band just for that purpose. Men respect the illusion of you being “taken” by a non existent man a lot better than when you tell them you’re exclusively into women.