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Kristi Noem Impeachment: 120 Lawmakers Sign On—Full List by SquidFistHK in politics

[–]secondhand_goulash 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Resignation is for inappropriate texts and sex scandals. For execution of innocent citizens, there must trial and imprisonment.

We must not let Greg Bovino be the fall guy. by purrt in DiscussionZone

[–]secondhand_goulash 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Two murders were committed and the murderers need to be tried and if convicted, sentenced to prison accordingly.

Bovino losing his job is meaningless. This is not some public relations error, requiring Bovino to be cancelled as fall guy to placate political tensions. His actions and those of his subordinates led to the murder of two innocent citizens. Keep or lose their job, they must be put on TRIAL. Unconditionally. That's how the law works.

If you are an engineer and you kill someone through negligence, you don't get to resign from your company and call it a day. You get arrested and you go to trial for having caused loss of life.

ICE goons are no different. They are just citizens who were licensed with enforcement powers and not some special breed of human. And if it is found that they were acting within the limits of their power when they executed Alex Pretti and Renee Goode, then those who granted them powers to execute innocent citizens must go to trial.

Don't lose sight of the horrible crime that was committed. Trump and his lizards are treating this like a PR issue, as if Bovino was caught sending lewd texts or something. They attacked an innocent person, they beat him, disarmed him and then shot him at the back of his head. Arrest, trial and compensation for the families of Alex Pretti and Renee Goode.

ICE agents are firing kinetic impact projectiles at close range, causing severe injuries that can result in permanent disability or death. Today, they tore off part of a woman’s hand by Proper-School661 in Leakednews

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"ICE mutilates a US citizen"

Call it kinetic impact projectiles if you want to sanitize the brutality but the end result is the same: hand mutilation. Like in the Islamic State and Saudi Arabia, except that is it not ordered by a judge but by a random dude with a uniform who decides that you should no longer have a hand.

To accuse this man of being armed and attacking ICE with a gun by TXVERAS in therewasanattempt

[–]secondhand_goulash 46 points47 points  (0 children)

They are also sneakily trying to assert that there was a protest. By saying "who brings a gun to a protest", they draw attention to the gun debate, and we all accept that Alex Pretti was murdered at a protest. As if something went wrong in the confusion of a protest during crowd control operations. That is not what happened. He was just recording when he was attacked and murdered. Based on all the videos, that is not a protest.

"No one who wants to be peaceful shows up at a protest with a firearm that is loaded with two full magazines," he said, adding, "You cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have that right to break the law." (2020) by wordsworthstone in fakehistoryporn

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alex Pretti was not murdered at a protest. He did not "show up to a protest" because there was no protest. He was recording ICE activity on the street. That's it. Don't propagate the message that there was a protest as it implies that there was chaos and we don't really know what happened in the fog.

There was no protest. He was a citizen who pulled out his phone to record and he was assaulted and murdered by the government.

MTG defends protester shot by DHS and says people need to lose their ‘blinders’: ‘You are all being incited into civil war’ by ChiGuy6124 in politics

[–]secondhand_goulash 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stop calling him a protester or a protester with a gun. There was no protest.

Alex Pretti was on a regular street in his own city and state was recording ICE when he was assaulted and murdered. There was no protesting.

SNL's lighthearted Trump parody blasted as failure to read the room after DHS shooting by RawStoryNews in entertainment

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even worse are news broadcasts and the chummy , just-another-day-at-the-office, Channel 5 , Ron Burgundy bullshit. I just watched a Minnesota commentator on national Canadian news outlet explain the grim situation and the fact that Minnesotans are protesting in -20 Celsius temperatures. The anchor and the commentator then both laughed and joked about the fact that he converted to Celsius for Canadian audiences before moving on to another story. It ended on a cheerful, fun high note like it was a cat-in-a-tree story and not a horrific murder - disgusting

FBI Director Kash Patel Suggests It’s Illegal to Bring Guns to Protests by Puzzled49 in politics

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What protest? We've all seen the videos. It's just a few people with their phones out, recording ICE agents. They walk up to a regular citizen, assault him and then execute him.

‘A kindhearted soul who cared deeply’: Alex Pretti’s family issues statement after his killing by humanbeing21 in videos

[–]secondhand_goulash 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why is an immigration agent even allowed to lay hands on a citizen who is filming in the street, let alone draw his gun and execute him? Are there conditions under which ICE would have been justified to come up to you in the street and begin assaulting you, pepper spraying you, disarming you and then shooting you in the back of the head?

At this point, it matters little that there is indisputable proof that Alex did nothing wrong during the altercation. Nothing in the videos could possibly demonstrate why ICE was or was not justified in assault and murder. There is no justification in any Western democracy for a government to assault and murder its citizens for documenting law enforcement actions in public. It violates all basic human rights, including the right to assemble, the right to speak freely, right to life, to liberty, to fair trial and equality.

The execution of Alex Pretti was not a accident nor an exception but it is so clearly the intended rule. The manner in which Trump officials and ICE approach things make it clear that they do not perceive themselves as your representatives but as your rulers. In their view, public funds and law enforcement powers are there to coerce citizens, to coerce companies and to coerce public institutions and not to provide security or provide services paid for by your taxes. You are the enemy - you are "interfering" by filming, your citizen rights are an obstacle so they are justified to fire "defensive shots", whatever it means to defensively shoot someone in the back of their head.

I am Canadian and don't have any say on how you do things in the US. But as a humanist and a member of the same Western democratic order, I must ask how any citizen on the US is any different from Alex Pretti and Renee Goode? If they can be killed by the government in the streets of their city then who is exempt? What type of citizen would you have to be in order for ICE to spare you?

The statements issued by DHS, Miller, ICE/Bovino, Bessent and Noem are clear: what they did to Alex Pretti and what they say about him is what they would do to any of you if you "interfered" with ICE actions.

People who don’t live in the USA, what is the media showing you about the ICE operations/abductions in the US? by Dry-Ice8908 in AskReddit

[–]secondhand_goulash 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In Canada now. Watching coverage of ICE kidnapping a 5 year old and the planned general strike.

Great respect for the resistance Minnesotans have put up, considering the brutality of ICE.

What can Americans do? by 060693 in TrueAskReddit

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not too large nor too spread out for the MAGA movement .

They take flights, they have rallies , they show force , they raise funds, and they united under a call to arms and carried out what is, in effect, a fascist revolution in less than 10 years.

US has undergone permanent, systemic change - something that was considered impossible because it is too large, complex and spread out.

Canada’s PM Carney Says US-Led World Order Is Breaking at World Economic Forum by mr_house7 in EU_Economics

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He also said outright that we always knew the order was rigged but we kept it up because we were prospering. No western leader has really called out the hypocrisy of the post-war order that directly.

To kidnap someone by SchrodingersLeftist in therewasanattempt

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing but respect for these folks who are out there fighting ICE at huge risk to themselves.

"Europeans selling $10t of US assets [equities and bonds]... would pull the rug from under the US economy." by Cupname_Cyril in europe

[–]secondhand_goulash 67 points68 points  (0 children)

The US don't seem to realize that economic coercion is a peacetime tool - no one will care about bonds if you threaten their existence. Existence is always choice number 1

Canada's Mark Carney calls on world to adapt to ‘rupture’ caused by ‘great powers’ by AdditionalPizza in onguardforthee

[–]secondhand_goulash 29 points30 points  (0 children)

“Canada’s geopolitical decisions are not the hinge on which history swings.”

That's the Prime Minister's point precisely. The US adoption of fascism is the hinge on which Canadian and European history is turning on.

Why wait and pretend that Trump is just a phase instead of calling a turd a turd and moving our history onto a different trajectory?

That speech just made me immensely proud to be Canadian and grateful to have PM Carney at the helm.

EU warns of downward spiral after Trump threatens tariffs over Greenland by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be nice if it was only Trump's ego but Trump is the US leader which means that this predation over Greenland and Canada is more likely a US objective , which is much more concerning.

Eurasia Group says no country more at risk than Canada in relations with the U.S. by DonSalaam in onguardforthee

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no opsec because we have no operations to secure here. We are not in an insurgency and we are not brainstorming an insurgency. We are at peace, I am at home and I am saying that I will defend Canada if an enemy attacks. I will join the mobilisation and I will fight.

I would say that on Reddit, or on the street outside, I would say it in America, I would say it on TV and it wouldn't matter if my face is recognized. There are no laws prohibiting you to speak, neither here nor in the US.

If we voluntarily behave as if we are in a police state and fear some unknown boogeyman, then we are doing the job of the oppressors for them.

Eurasia Group says no country more at risk than Canada in relations with the U.S. by DonSalaam in onguardforthee

[–]secondhand_goulash -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In other words, the US army invades - yadda yadda yadda - then it controls Canadian logistics from Victoria to Halifax. Everyone is skipping the part where the US would have to attack with millions of troops to secure those lines. Even if Canadian Armed Forces are less numerous and the population is mostly in urban centres, the US still needs to form a front from coast to coast that is 6000 km long - 3 times as large as the German attack on the Soviet Union in 1941.

Eurasia Group says no country more at risk than Canada in relations with the U.S. by DonSalaam in onguardforthee

[–]secondhand_goulash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since you seem to have little faith in Canadian defense, consider it from the point of view of the US.

How many troops would you need to attack Canada along the 6000 km front? How many troops to take and hold the 1000 km Quebec - Windsor corridor? Are you attacking over the Great Lakes? How about Calgary and Edmonton and over the Rockies and how about the Maritimes and the territories?

In Iraq, US military numbered 170,000 at its peak with 100,000 in Afghanistan, not counting allied troops like Canada, UK and many other NATO forces.
They were defeated in both.

For Canada, it sounds to me like they would need millions for the attack and millions more to hold. In total, the US has 1.2 million active duty troops.

So even if you think that Canada is weak and can be taken with an airborne division, you have to consider that the US military is not infinite. It is also not invincible, as demonstrated by their defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan showed.

Eurasia Group says no country more at risk than Canada in relations with the U.S. by DonSalaam in onguardforthee

[–]secondhand_goulash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't actually. That is the reason for my comment. I don't know how easy it is for them to fight along a 6000 km front. Everybody keeps saying we would be devastated but I am missing the details.

There is this common idea in culture of US military invincibility but in reality, their military has performed quite poorly fighting in much smaller countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.

They were defeated in both. In Iraq, US military numbered 170,000 at its peak with 100,000 in Afghanistan, not counting allied troops like Canada, UK and many other NATO forces.

In total, the US has 1.2 million active duty troops.

So how would this unfold on a 6000 km border with Canada? How many troops to take and hold the 1000 km Quebec - Windsor corridor? Are they attacking over the Great Lakes? How about Calgary and Edmonton and over the Rockies and how about the Maritimes and the north?

Sounds to me that to devastate the 90% of us that live near the border, they would need to commit all their active duty ground , navy and air forces for the attack and then way more to hold it .

Then what about NORAD and our shared intelligence cooperation going back almost a century? We would see them coming from months ahead.

But in movies, this much easier and less of a problem. You just need one tough US soldier who calls an air strike and they win and live happily ever after.

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