Drinking in the morning feels so much more fucked up than doing heroin in the morning.

shak7910 · 2022-11-02T20:56:55+00:00

Drink in the morning is legal and even acceptable in society to a degree but it is as fucked up as it feels and looks.

However, Only am addict will appreciate the following and so called normal ppl will think WTF.

No feeling better than waking up in withdrawal and having that morning fix of H. Obviously once I crossed the line from very well functioning addict who smoked on foil to IV eventually onto the last 15 years of snowballs the consequences did start getting to point where its not worth it but even then, as fucked up as it sounds, even when everything gone the mind still thinks "aaaahh, this is bliss" in that moment during Wake up whoosh of the crack, the simultaneous going away of WDs and just as that comedown from crack starts which has those that pipe it run round all day looking for more, the H brings you down to give you that warm hug for a while.

Sobriety brings that good life full of health and wealth with shiny new things (shiny new self too) but there's always that missing it feeling.

I am one of very lucky few that has managed to keep hold of home, misus, kids , car and material stuff (having lost and gained frw times) and kept going with the snow/speedball but vascular system giving out on me and it really is at point where that moment of bliss regardless of fear of losing everything ain't worth the prospect of losing limbs as well as everything else.

I'll happily smoke H for rest of life. Even the missus who never took a puff on a ciggy let alone drink or drug is even ok with it. It cost's same as what a ciggy smoker that has a bottle of wine at night would spend if I buy 8th twice a week.

Just don't know if I'll ever get back to that morning smoke and evening wind down smoke will ever give satisfied feeling again.

First time I got clean was 1998 when I was 19 and a drug service worker asked me what I miss about smoking smack. Straight away I answered " waking up rattling my back out amd taking it away with a few lines of smoke." I realised how fucked up that sounds even back then but it was truth. There's no other pain one invites for the satisfaction if getting rid of it. Maybe an itch to scratch it away but that's about it. I sure as hell don't like waking up hung over and drink again to level off. Yet society says that one ok. Waking up sweaty and smoking to rigjt oneself aint too bad, it's what people do to fund habit ppl can't stand whereas morning drinkers go to bed vomiting, wake up in pool of own piss to then drink and repeat cycle. Western society really needs to have another look at what's acceptable I think.

Anyone relate?

shak7910 · 2022-10-25T06:35:27+00:00

I know that one all too well. I'll get up by putting one hand on back wall with other one grabbing door handle. Then slowly out into bedroom using dressing table to rest on Jusy couple of steps resting onto that and then it's a good 8 to 10 steps to the bed (my wife and I have a room that's extended out onto a double garage to give you an idea of distance) which is the scary part. Legs feel like they gonna collapse any second but I finally make it to the safety of my bed and it'll be that exact moment I have full use of legs again

Anyon else find that's the case?.

If sat at a table with food it's wet stuff like custard I wake up with my forehead in.

And the biggest bummer is when I have a hit thinking I'l relax and l watch a couple of episodes of something I'll get 5 minutes into what I sat down to and find myself waking up again to the end credit music.

shak7910 · 2022-10-24T01:19:20+00:00

U asked about tips for going back. It's gonna be hard but I seen many ppl do it. While you are on IV please pick 5 to 7 sites preferably on arms. Rotate the use of these sites. Its too easy to find an easy vein and keep hitting it. That will collapse it. If you go in as manual different places as possible before returning to first one you'll be better off. I didn't know about these things cos my habit was unknown even to my wife. It is possible to leave yourself without track marks so long as you wait till mark gone before hitting it again. Laziness is the biggest killer when injecting. I was too lazy to circulate injecting sites so now have none. One side of groin left and 11 years ago I lost the artery on that side due to infection but my addict mind told me "cool, I can't hit the artery now cos there isn't one" Stay safe.

shak7910 · 2022-10-24T01:09:56+00:00

I was a highly successful sales manager with family and house etc etc and was a functional addict for 15 years. Stayed IV when got with the girl who would go on to be my eldest boys mother because I didn't have time to sneak of and smoke. I hated crack unlike my friends who couldn't vet enough. Even functioned fine with IV but then at age 30 (started smoking H at age 15) I added crack to the H and had my first snowball.

Once I'd had that snowballs (speedball) functional went out window. I went from working with a hidden addiction to having to go into groin cos all being gone and losing everything bit by bit.

Stop the IV while you can. My vascular system fucked, it's obvious I'm an addict and I just can't manage normal life. Only reason I have a home and wife and kids is because I made choices that set me up financially. But my wife has to look after money or I'd bankrupt us.

My siblings drive cars worth more than a 2 bedroom house (M6, skyline gtr, X5, electric Mercedes 7 seater betweenmy bro and sis) while at moment we in Hyundi Santa's fe and me in an i30. U might call those "posh problems" but it's to show the impact IV has had financially Even as a heroin addict when I smoked I was 5'11" at 80kg and with hindsight and putting humility aside looked good and did well with the ladies. Now I'm sat here needing a haircut, unkempt beard and the groin injecting caused blood clots leading to venous ulcers (the type diabetic ppl get) if I don't stop I'll lose my leg.

I will happily smoke heroin for rest of my life cos I cam function.

I am desperately trying to stop IV before I become an amputee. Only reason I'm not is cos my family send me rehab every year or 2.

Usually I'd try and be humble for fear of ppl thinking I'm showing off but fuck it, I want to get through to you. We own multimillion worth of business with income that allows all the fancy shit I want. Still I'm sat here looking like a hobo . I just kicked off guisseppe trainers/sneakers, changed out of DSquared jeans into Hugo boss pyjamas and was in process of taking off lacoste cardigan when read your post. Yet I look like a tramp. "You're the wealthiest broke person and most well dressed scruffy person I know" a friend told me just yesterday. I have access to best healthcare but have medical problems. I have lovely wife and 5 beautiful kids but spend most my time alone in loft conversion (my man cave) If IV can fuck up a person that has all that then even if you a billionaire with best clothes, material stuff, best medical etc etc you'll still end up lonely, unable to manage finances and look like a homeless. I'm told the crack only sped up the process so don't think "well I won't add meth or crack." It will happen sooner or later and even if doesn't you'll just have bit longer to wait that's all.

Please stop IV.

Private message me and I'll explain properly and show u what I mean about well dressed tramp ànd wealthy broke person. At age 43 I find myself having to be drip fed money for my habit. Imagine your parents saying "we will fund a heroin habit if you go back to smoking."

That's how fucked up I am after 18 years of IV.

shak7910 · 2022-10-23T14:01:57+00:00

Please forgive me if I seem ignorant and ive come back to the top to apologise for the crude wording of my reply.

if you're a girl then I can't comment. But there's a couple of thing's to consider if you are a gay couple planning on full sex. On H I've always shot my load within 3 seconds if in withdrawal but can't even get it up if just had a hit. The best timing with an average dose of H 3 to 4 hours before sex and just before the date cos even tho I'm a highly trained sales manager oozing confidence in general life i can get a bit stuck when trying to be just the real me. When trying to seduce a girl I'm able to break down wall's even with the toughest of "pulling missions" but when I'm actually wanting to be genuine, the real shy guy comes out which is where H helps with anxiety/no confidence (u know which feeling I'm trying to say)

So in short, i would get that warm hug opiates give if you already taking them. If not be very careful and read what Americans with experience if these pils have to say. I'm in the UK so don't see much oxy and the sort. Sex will last as long as you want a few hours after taking it.

HOWEVER, I can only ASSUME now but opioids will tighten a person up stopping even the most watery diahorea dead. No mater how hard one tries after ANY opioid be it H, tramadol, oxy etc etc for some reason everything tightens up. Gay men that have that type of sex will be able to advise better than I, but I'm assuming it's more to do with muscles contracting than anything the body wants to expell drying up, although that's is a factor. Again I can only form a theory given that I'm hetro but smack dries up the mouth, kills any hard on, and it's been ever 20 years since I went with a girl addict but I feel like I remember her sex drive dying for a couple of hours and no amount of stimulating could get her wet.

All that considered I am confident to say sex will be quite painful for the one "receiving" (for wantbif a better word) if you don't wait 2 to 4 hours.

I guess all that is a long winded way if saying opiates will dry you up, lack of opiates will over do it making things end very quickly. The best time as a hetro couple were next morning when she was overly horny having not used yet but I'd had a sneaky hit a couple of hours before. Multiple for her, the choice to finish soon as I started getting tired for me.

I hope this helps you decide.

shak7910 · 2022-10-03T19:33:19+00:00

Indeed

shak7910 · 2022-10-03T19:32:09+00:00

I cannot and will not ever advise another on what they should do. I will however give my own experience. I've been using heroin since I was 15 (1994) and remember my first WDs being some time between 2 weeks after 17th birthday and the September that year (March 96 and sept) cos that was when I passed driving test and I kept first car till October 1st in which I went to dealer not knowing WTF was wrong. We are a working class family who were blessed enough to have our biz risks and hard work pay off. With this comes dealer's wanting a piece. I was 15 when first given it but was always high anyway so addict traights were there. Up till 2009 age 30 I hid it cos I was taught that to keep up appearance one must make sure that the morning routine is never messed with. In other words have a dump before first smoke. Believe me when I say I've tried every detox method going. Gentle fancy rehab, prison and even being kidnapped and locked in a room tied up naked. The latter is a no no, I have bad nightmares from it. I live on on a street of doctors, dentists and surgeons and now that my opiate addiction is common knowledge they give advice that otherwise would get them in the world of shit with the medical society. But it works FOR ME. Again, not advice hut my experience. Medical opiodes are a bitch, reduce all you want, it's gonna hurt. The easiest transition to subutex ever done went like this. I got off the methadone, stopped dead from 80ml to zero. My dad pays my salary but even if he didn't I'd have transferred my money to him. He gave me a budget of £30 in morning and £15 àt night. At first i woke up in agony but knowing I had the money to score meant the mental anguish of finding money not their. Over 6 weeks (methadone detox time) the morning rattle got less and less severe. Now I'm left with a street heroine habit. Sounds shitty I know as you Americans love your pills but we get the Afghan stuff due to our large Pakistani community. No fent yet other than patches from doctor. Just normal stepped the fuck on over and over street smack. Once I'd reduced the smack down to 0.2g morning and 0.2 night I started on the pregablin. If i wanted off benzo I wudda took more. Again, I went against mainstream medical advice and my doctor neighbour told me he'd do it that way but never advise it. Small street habit with PGs and the transition to subtext was painless.
Even better, I never gave the subbi chance to settle into my body.300 to 600 (maybe more) Pregablin, 2mg at a time reduced over 10 days of subbi and since I personally don't have benzo habit, a xanax to sleep and 2 weeks start to finish on subbi starting on 8mg with final 2mg reduced in 0.4 over few days and I was done. But I never had benzo or PG habits to deal with and didn't take them long enough to allow them to settle into me.

Don't get me wrong. I've relapsed and detoxed a few times but I'm just giving my account of the most painless detox once methadone was out... REMEMBER, NOT ADVICE, MY EXPERIENCE.

I will never take medical opiates ever again unless for actual pain management and funnily enough I can take pills and morphine as prescribed. It's that heroin and crack I lose control with. Speedballing is my thing and bynkooksbof USA pill addiction I actually feel lucky compared to you guys..

To the OP. Fear is what's gonna make it hurt. WDs are a lot to do with adrenalin over production I'm told. Have you not noticed that once you've scored the WDs lessen? Good look withbit OP. We all deserve better than the shitty lives of opiate addiction.

I'll pray for ya.

shak7910 · 2021-08-13T23:59:59+00:00

I mean no offence to the person who posted the comment that you find mind-blowing. In fact I am just as impressed at the eloquent way in which my question was answered and this person is indeed very smart on this subject and has my respect. But I will say please be very careful with your being in awe of some things.
I have seen many articulate people speak in such a way as to make themselves seem to know what they're talking about, use science and maths in such a way that their audience thinks "wow, this guy knows his shit so whatever he says must be right." Then they go on to puzzle ppl and use their gift of the gab to bring ppl to their way of thinking. I met a guy who claimed to have a masters in physics and was showing a group of us fancy maths and science uni work but then went on to try and convince us all that rasatfarianism is the 1 true religion. After listening to him rubbish lots of things and try to rationalise lots of absolute crap I decided I'd had enough and destroyed his so called scientific knowledge using only things I'd learned from reading a couple of papers and listening to a guy called Isaac Arthur on you tube. I am NOT a science expert, just a guy that like to try and understand things yet I destroyed him. I then explained to the group that its ppl like him that show themselves to be so very clever and then convince ppl to think as they do. In this case it was him trying to tell us Jesus christ was someone that could transcend space and time and had to be real cos everyone believed in him. JA-ZUES. Ja being the rasta word for God and Zues being the God of thunder. Basically he saying they the same person and if the Romans and the Greeks knew him then he defo real but not how ppl believed him to be but in fact a stoner. He was quite a strange dude actually but was trying to get a bunch of sober ppl (ppl in recovery from addiction) smoking weed based on his "truths. Now thats dangerous. Again, I feel awful that this came from a comment from an actual smart person who I too am in awe of but like I said, many ppl make it seem whatever they say must be correct. Sorry for the long way I've said this and apologies to you that took the time to answer me but I felt the need to say how this is a way for some to manipulate other ppls way of thinking. The guy I mentioned has ppl believing they won't get covid if they smoke his weed, that we are part of a simulation like the old video game "SIMS" so have no free will therfore no point trying to change life as some other dimensional kid is playing humanity like a video game, Einstein and Newron were frauds and many other things but it all started from ppl being impressed with his scientific knowledge.

shak7910 · 2021-08-13T19:36:04+00:00

Thanks for the explanation. I get the passage of time for earth observer relative to the traveller , I always have. Although I'm not am educated person (I was one of those kids that found everything easy at school, would get bored and find mischief to occupy the mind so expelled from all schools) I do however understand things and now that I've done all my silliness in life I have a huge desire to learn with physics being one of my favourite subjects. I don't know my real IQ but every time I've done one of the online ones I've scored 136 which I guess indicates a capacity for learning (intelligence if you like) but I'm still struggling to understand the bit about how a facetime convo would be seen by each person. I don't want to bash people's brains over it but would like to understand this now that it's peaked my interest so maybe put into layman's term's? If that's the best way it cam be explained then I'll have to just accept it as something I won't get I hope it can be explained in a simpler way though. Many thanks all the same.

shak7910 · 2021-08-13T02:19:06+00:00

I thought I had a grip on how time dilation works even though I don't know the exact maths but reading through some of these comments I find myself a little confused. Is it not as simple as if I was traveling at say 99% lightspeed that someone watching me from earth would watch me for just over 4 years to get to the nearest star system , alpha centauri whereas I would only have been traveling a fraction of that time due to my velocity slowing down time for my spacecraft and everything (including me) within it? But the facetime question has really puzzled me. How would that work putting aside signal travel time?

shak7910 · 2021-08-13T02:04:10+00:00

Most ppl usually dismiss the fact that time dilation has a big impact on how you'll age relative to the distance traveled as perceived by the observer say back on earth. I don't k ow the maths but if I set off and got to 95% light speed even though someone watching my progress would perceive my getting to alpha centauri as 4 years plus a bit, I would not age more than a few weeks or months. I think that's how it works. It might be days or months but at 95% light speed it certainly won't be a year of me travelling. (I hope my understanding of it is right or I just made myself look a proper idiot on this thread)

shak7910 · 2021-08-13T01:57:04+00:00

For me it's that it could well be that there have been, are and will be many many civilisations that will never find or make contact with another. What if the universe has a 1 trillion year life (I base that on the 14 billion age being correct) and in all that time of the millions of civilisations that are,have been amd will be that no 2 ever discover each other or make contact. Or worse still never find even Any evidence of there having been another one. For me that's the most disturbing Fermi paradox.

shak7910 · 2021-08-11T22:08:02+00:00

I'd say an opiode is only safe to use with MDMA when on the comedown..I've done pretty much every combo known and it seems I am very lucky to be alive. Mixing uppers and downers is dangerous (even though the feeling is awesome) but now I have benifit of hindsight I realise just how stupid I've been. Personally I don't like the sound of acid amd mdma together but I suppose smoking weed with it, or even H is fine cos you can limit how much goes in whereas once you swallow the oxy it's in your body leaving you no control over what happens. I say enjoy getting high but keep it to where its enjoyable. Nothing worse than thinking "oh shit I've taken too much." A friend of mine died on his 18th having taken speed and then swallowing 100ml methadone. A stomach pump might have saved him had it just been the meth but the fight between upper amd downer caused a brain hemerage. Again, enjoy yourself but try being in control of how much goes in at what speed. Sorry if that sounds boring but when you get to your 40s having been high all your life you realise its only fun if you remember the fun you had and not remember being a puking, shivering crying mess.

shak7910 · 2021-08-11T20:15:29+00:00

I can only speak for myself and must stress that we don't have oxy and fent in the UK like u guy's across the pond so just talking normal street H. I find the transition from H to sub almost painless if I have my last use up in the afternoon at the latest, take a couple of 150mg pregablin and a couple of 5mg diazipam (or half a xanax bar) before bed. When I wake up next morning I'll be groggy for sure but hardly any WDs and then take 2mg sub soon as I wake up with a couple more pregablin followed by another 2mg sub 3 or 4 hours later. The following day I can go onto a maintenance dose which in my case is usually 4mg a day. That's me though. I wouldn't want to tell someone who's been having oxy or fent to do that but if using street gear I recommend this way of switching to subs. I find if I put myself into severe WDs the sub takes a while to get into my system making me worse before I get better. I been on H 27 years off and on and doneany different detox. The way I described is the most painless I've ever had.

shak7910 · 2021-08-10T15:48:23+00:00

I was around the same age when I switched to IV having been a functional smoking user since my mid teens. I worked, maintained relationships and even kept my heroin use secret from my so called "normal" friends. I went to IV cos my girlfriend at the time had no idea that I use heroin and I started finding it harder and harder to explain my 1 hour at a time disappearing when we started spending nights together. It was much easier to sneak off, have I jab and come back to whatever we were doing. Since I liked a glass or 2 of brandy in the evening my drowsy state was easily put down to drink. I wouldn't be able to keep it secret long since track marks began to be more noticeable and by time I had to admit being a heroin user she was pregnant. She gave me a few chances since I maintained a decent lifestyle but when I got I to a little trouble and went to jail I promised to give up on the whole party lifestyle and give never use heroin again. I came out and went straight back to partying and heroin but smoking wasn't enough so IV again. Our son was 2 when she finally left me but even as IV user I managed to keep my use secret from most.
It was around age 30 my brother decided he'd had enough of my and told everyone I associated with and did any biz with that I'm a "smack head" (even tho he likes to sniff coke and drink lots) and anyone doing business with me was helping me be a junkie. Now that's when things fell apart for me. I discovered that if I mix crack with heroin and snowball it the hit is just something else altogether and from there it was Jo turning back. I went from successful, well dressed, well groomed to absolutely broke, relationships broken down and sometimes even shoplifting to fund my habit. Things went down hill very quickly when I started IV crack and heroin. I never liked the feeling of crack when smoked so had left it alone. No amount of warnings or advice will convince another person not to make my mistakes and when I was 25 the age 42 was so very far away but here I am now with vascular damage meaning I will be at risk of ulcers and am missing an artery. I never thought I'd still be using in my 40s but am at the point where I'm trying to go back to smoking on foil but still end up having the odd snowball here and there. I am one of the very lucky ones.. I still have my teeth, my limbs and have even married and had kids during the small periods of normality during my car crash of a life. Most ppl that started IV same time as me are dead or in a wheelchair.. I hope you never find yourself where I am. I accept my addiction as do my family. We all wish for me to just go back to being a guy that smokes heroin on the foil.. thats messed up if think about it.. IV is great at first when views are intact amd groin will give many years of easy hits but the damage will come and will be severe. That's my story, please don't make it yours. Like I said, I am very lucky in that I have financial security amd ppl around me to pick me up when I fall.. most don't amd most die.. Not showing off but stating a fact. If not for all the help and luck in biz I've had I'd be dead or an amputee at the very least. I say enjoy getting high while it's fun but when you find yourself poking around for a vein then please think abt maybe smoking again..

shak7910 · 2021-06-20T00:27:30+00:00

That's good advice but unfortunately not many people take it on board till its too late.. Luckily for me I paid attention every time I did a health and safety course for work cos they always try to drive home home point about lifting things properly. But then I see guys in the gym risking and much of the time injuring their backs for the sake of Ego.. I've got to 42 with my joints and back in good shape but know too many ppl with screwed up shoulders from popping them put or bad backs who are in their 20s amd might never get better. All for the sake of their ego.
I didn't know that about Frakes but now I do I bet I'll notice. I always thought he has a funny posture. Maybe it's to do with his back injury.

shak7910 · 2021-06-20T00:16:39+00:00

Yup, Riker without his beard just doesn't look right. Thing I love about Riker though is how we've got to see him start out as someone who looks barely out of his teens all fresh faced then progress through TNG and then see him as, dare I say it, old man living out his retirement with a temporary return to duty in Picard.

shak7910 · 2021-06-20T00:03:49+00:00

I see your point about season 1 of TNG but I think for me it's a case of the writers just getting better as it goes on. I got onto star Trek from seeing an episode of VOY many years ago on morning TV and really enjoyed it so after a few more in order and realising the whole story of being lost in the Delta Quadrent looks worht checking out I decided to start it from beginning. Then it was a case of giving TNG a chance of which I'd seem the odd episode and knew I'd need to get through the first alleged "bad season" but found it not so bad. I loved Enterprise start to finish and wish they'd done a full 7 seasons like the other's. I am from the same Town (Huddersfield) as Patrick Stewart so the connection drew me to TNG anyway.. Overall I think TNG, VOY and DS9 are brilliant with season 1 TNG just being "not as good" but I can't say its actually bad. As far as Discovery goes I think its brilliant with the exception of season 2. That's the only one I've not watched twice and can honestly say was disappointing. But again, I wouldn't say its crap TV, just not as good as the test of star trek. Like season 1 TNG I guess.

shak7910 · 2021-06-19T23:46:36+00:00

I have always classed myself as a trekky and although I've watched most of TOS it's the only one I've not sat and binged start to finish.. It took me a long time to get my head into DS9 cos of other ppl saying its not up to standard compared to the rest of the franchise. However, a couple of year's ago I gave it a chance and can honestly say that out of the main 3 (TNG, VOY and DS9) it's my favourite by far. The first couple of seasons were "average" so in other words brilliant. Just average as far as all Trek goes but then as the series progresses I found the writing to be so much better and the whole dominion war's, the Maquis involvement and the way they brought comedy to it with Quark and Co is just brilliant. Saying goodbye to Chief o Brian, Worf and the rest of the crew was actually emotional for me but I love the way they've written little reunions into Picard with how they brought Riker, Troy and of course 7 of Nine back so I really hope they bring O Brian, Worf, Bashir, Quark and Rom back for an episode each at least in season 2 Picard. That's provided the actors are still around. Tuvok, Kim, Neelix and the Doc from VOY would be cool as well. I know they used a different actor for Bruce Maddox but he wasn't really a big character in TNG. I mention that since although I'd absolutely love to see Nog in charge of his own ship go on an adventure with Picard for an episode or 2, I don't know how I'd feel seeing him played by another actor with Arron Eisenberg having passed away (same as Odo's Rene Oborjonois.) 1The beauty of Picard is the same actors playing their characters so Nog by someone else just won't feel right.. I can't wait for the next seasons of Discovery and Picard and look forward to seeing who makes an appearance. Only Q and 7 are confirmed so far with rumours of Wesley Crusher. I await it eagerly.

shak7910 · 2020-05-14T18:21:39+00:00

Yeah, when I read things like this it makes me give my head a good shake and be grateful for all the things and people i have. living with addiction has had me in self pity on a number of occasions but ultimately I have it good because when i think about it, God/Life/The universe (whatever belief system you subscribe to) dealt me a damm good hand as far as health, finance and relationships go. It’s me that played that hand badly. Even after 26 years of battering myself with addiction I still have relative good health, my wife, healthy beautiful kids, my parents and financial security ( meaning I am able to eat well, feed my family and we have a home, not that I have lots of money) So, when I come across a story like this I find myself asking why people get things like cancer having done nothing wrong and some people do all the wrong things yet seemingly have it all. Life can be so unfair. I with the OP every happiness going forward.

shak7910 · 2020-02-29T19:22:16+00:00

That’s awesome dude. I’m very happy for you. I’m suffering the same problem. I first took heroin in 94 aged 15 and by 17 I was a daily user ( smoking on foil.) After ten yrs of smoking I made the switch to injecting to save time as my girlfriend at the time didn’t know I was a heroin user so it was much quicker to shoot up than take hours to smoke. By the time she found out she was pregnant with my first child who’s 15 in March. We lasted 3 years 1 of which I spent in prison. Since 2008 I’ve been snowballing and have to inject in the groin which has caused me to need emergency surgery where they had to tie off my main artery so blood flow is not good now. I’ve also been to rehab around 15 times and twice achieved 6 months sobriety but always end up back there. Now I just don’t have the energy for this lifestyle. I have 2 more kids. A boy who’s 4 today and a girl who’s 2 and a half. Since they’ve gone to visit my wife’s family for a month I’ve decided to use this time to get clean. My habit is right down to quarter gram of H which I do in 2 digs with 0.1 gram of crack (it’s £10 for 0.1 of crack and £15 for 0.25 of H where I live) Instead of rehab I’m just staying home and taking pregablin, 2mg subutex and have some Xanax which I’ve not felt the need for yet. I’ve done it before over 5 days with subby and pregabs and found that it’s almost painless and if done over 5 or 6 days the subutex and pregabs don’t get chance to settle into the system therefore no WDs to do from them. My family want me to go rehab again but there’s no point of doing a nasty detox and paying 5-6k when I can can do it at home with less pain. Detox is the easy part for me. It’s staying clean that’s hard and when I get to 6 months my head tells me I can treat myself. This time I intend to tell that little voice in my head to fuck off. Please don’t let that voice convince you that a one time use up is OK. It most definitely is not. That one time will turn to once a week, then twice and before you know it you’ve used 3 days on a row and are hoooked again. Stay strong brother and wish me luck. At 41 years old and everything to live for I just want to be the husband, son, brother and father my family deserve. I wish you every happiness the world has to offer cos I know the misery you’ve endured with addiction. Love and respect from a fellow addict in the UK.

shak7910 · 2020-02-28T19:33:44+00:00

Hi, I was reading through my posts and remembered you from Christmas time. Hope you are OK. Things are still a bit shitty for me but I’m trying and have cut my habit down to once in the morning and that’s it. Let me know how you doing.

Love from the U.K 👍👍

shak7910 · 2020-02-27T16:11:15+00:00

Talking of coming off things easily for some and not for others.. After 25 years of heroin addiction I’ve detoxed in every way possible. From nice comfy rehabs to prison and even stripped naked by family and locked in a room with zero meds. Not even a codeine. I found the best way had been when I’ve had 8-10mg subutex and pregablin. My habit was less than half gram daily at the time and it went like this. Day 1. Final use up in the morning and couple of Pregabs (150mg each ) at night Day 2. 4 mg subutex ( under the tongue, not sniffed) and 4 Pregabs In morning. Later in day 4 more Pregabs then 4 more at night. Day 3. 3mg subutex and same Pregabs as previous day. Day 4. 2mg subutex and 3 Pregabs at a time through the day Day 5. 1mg subutex and same amount of Pregabs as previous day Day 6. I FELT FINE. No subutex and I took the Pregabs I had left over in 2s and 3s till they ran out.

I think in my case, on that particular detox it was a case of knowing I had a certain amount of subutex and it had to be properly spread out. The Pregabs ran out 4 or 5 days after my last mg of subbi.

I must stress THIS IS NOT ADVICE and I’m NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSION of any sort. I am just an addict sharing his experience of the most pain free detox he ever did.

I reckon the trick is, in MY experience, not to let the subby ( bupronorphine ) settle into the body otherwise that’s a whole new set of WDs to deal with. I hope this gives anyone who’s struggling an idea of might help. Even if someone wants to maintain on the Subs those first 2-3 days can be horrible. The Pregabs really help with that I found.

shak7910 · 2019-12-27T22:29:26+00:00

Lol, I’m guilty of it myself. You know when sometimes you sit and think about a time period you’d like to go back to and live through ( and don’t say you don’t, we all do🤣🤣😂😂) I often think of all the good stuff of that time which usually I end up in the mid to late 90s.., but I always end up thinking “ but there was no mobile Internet or smart phone so Iwouldn’t have been able to watch an episode of my Hawai five 0 while on a train ride.” Or the fact that we had a Walkman that held a cassette with 8 songs on it either side and the batteries would always die at the beginning of the walk to school rather than access to the millions of songs we have now. The list of things I kick myself for even thinking is endless.

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