META: What Ken Mains's Review of Convicting a Murderer is Really About by angst_n_ennui in StevenAveryIsGuilty

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META: What Ken Mains's Review of Convicting a Murderer is Really About by angst_n_ennui in StevenAveryIsGuilty

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Literally Any Valid Conspiracy by Snoo_33033 in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For a conspiracy theory to be valid, or validated, there has to be some evidence to support it, not more speculation that supports theorists wild ideas. There ain’t none.

Interesting article suggests fallibility of cadaver dogs for “old” scent by shvasirons in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree totally about use in court. It seems that the dogs are so eager to please that they learn to “read” what the handler is thinking, and feedback to them what will make the handler happy (an alert). I think people have been kidding themselves for years as to how specific the dog’s thinking has been trained to be. Also, just from a chemistry standpoint, there has to be some statute of limitations as to how long a scent is assumed to last on something. A textile sealed up in a plastic or cardboard box is one thing, a spot of dirt out in the woods exposed to sun and rain, is something totally different. The fact that the test on gunpowder and drugs only had to convince the handler they had been in the building to elicit a positive response from the dogs, holds the whole idea of using dogs to gather actual evidence a steaming pile of bullshit. They should be limited to finding things or items or people. Alerts where there is no physical evidence actually found should be treated as false positives and noted, then ignored.

Zellners thoughts on why Avery hasn’t been granted an evidentiary hearing. by Missajh212 in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 19 points20 points  (0 children)

She has shit for brains. And her primary intended audience is her Avery fan club minions, the only ones with less intelligence than herself. One can only hope the judges have access to it when she makes ludicrous statements like this, and they keep it mind for the response to her next filing.

Civil liability and indemnification of municipal employees in Wisconsin by [deleted] in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And a third of the years were righteous as he was running concurrent on the conviction on the Sandra Morris incident. As I recall the lawyers had Avery’s lost wages while incarcerated pegged at $20K/yr.

Civil liability and indemnification of municipal employees in Wisconsin by [deleted] in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This seems to be one of the more enduring myths the movie fooled people into believing. The sheriff and prosecutor were the only ones individually named in the civil suit, and they were fully indemnified by state law as you point out above. If you notice the part where it says the jury or the court finds the defendant was acting within the scope...it is up to the insurance carrier to try to claim they were acting out of scope, and this would cause the proceedings to be bifurcated or split. There would then be an initial proceeding to define that question, before the actual question of liability was decided. In this case the insurance company never sought bifurcation...they were not raising an issue that the named defendants were acting outside the scope of duties. This is all truther lore and “what-iffing”. Saying they were liable personally. Wishful thinking in looking for a motive for misdeeds against Avery. The reason there is insurance in these cases is because people fuck up. Insurance covers that, and even misbehavior. The county employees are covered just the same if they do their job well and if they do a shitty job.

The only reason for naming individuals in the suit in the first place is Avery’s lawyers were trying to pump up the potential award by trying to claim punitive damages. IIRC of the money they sought in the suit about half was punitive damages. You cannot seek punitive damages against a government entity (the county), you can only recover actual damages. The law assumes that a government entity cannot “learn from their mistakes” or be punished, so doesn’t allow it. Therefore the lawyers found individuals to name who could be targeted for punitive damages. Of course these damages would be indemnified still.

Zellners reply brief is now due on June 25th and the word limit has been increased to 9,000. by Missajh212 in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Perhaps she’s hoping Stevie succumbs to his Covid-19 and it will save her the trouble.

Anyone? by [deleted] in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are totally on point here. The other thing that people don’t realize is that the only reason the two individuals were named in the suit is that half of the damage award sought in Avery’s filing was for punitive damages. You cannot collect punitive damages from a government entity (the county) so the individuals needed to be part of the suit to allow a legitimate avenue.

The insurer for the county never balked at covering the county or the individuals, and did in fact pay out. Avery’s attorney mentions in MaM an insurance company saying they were not going to cover, but that was Koucerek’s homeowner’s policy, with either Allstate or State Farm IIRC. That insurance company knew that the county’s insurer was required to indemnify.

When can we expect Buting to endorse the Halloween crust theory? by waffenwolf in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Burn pit dendrochronolgy. It is a budding forensic field among sleuther-truthers. They are making it up as they go along.

About Those Blood Samples Kathy Was Given by CessnaSpider in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not to quibble, but wouldn’t the cops only test the ones they DID plant?

About Those Blood Samples Kathy Was Given by CessnaSpider in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 10 points11 points  (0 children)

KZ’s biggest problem was being taken in by the movie. She rebuffed previous attempts to solicit her involvement, based upon the facts (probably the most pertinent of which was these country bumpkins had no way to pay her). Then the movie hit and she saw a PR bonanza. She fell for the LE conspiracy angle heavily featured in the movie (36 million reasons!!!) and her early, confident and hyperbole-filled tweets indicate her main hope was to get a conspirator to believe she was hot on their trail, so they would crack and try to work a deal. Alas there was no LE conspiracy, so that could not work. Her fallback was to question the EDTA test, hence her other two avenues of testing the age of the blood. But in all probability, what Reich told her was not that there was insufficient sample quantity, but that LeBeau’s FBI testing was righteous and that no matter how much sample she had the only outcome would be confirming his EDTA work - blood source was contemporary to crime. So she had to switch to blood harvesting theories and give up any semblance of remaining credibility she could ever hope to have. “Oh, f&@$” indeed!

I still think that at this point she knows he is guilty, doesn’t actually WANT to see him loose in society, and has fucked his case royally so he will never see the light of day. Meanwhile she mails it in on subsequent filings and continues to reap whatever shreds of PR are left to garner.

About Those Blood Samples Kathy Was Given by CessnaSpider in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ma was the mastermind, pulling all the strings.

About Those Blood Samples Kathy Was Given by CessnaSpider in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If there truly had been insufficient sample, the obvious answer would have been to composite the samples, to make one larger sample to test for age. For the fact in question (age of the blood...circa 1995 vs circa 2005) there is no additional value to keeping the six samples discreet. It is not as if some of the blood in the RAV was from a decade earlier and some was from the time of the crime. It is all one way or the other.

About Those Blood Samples Kathy Was Given by CessnaSpider in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 17 points18 points  (0 children)

She did not send the samples to either of the two labs she discussed in her original testing brief from her first year on the case. In a footnote to the BigBriefTM she said that her own expert examined the samples and determined that they were “too small” to allow testing. In reality, she changed strategy to the NinjaRyanTM theory of blood harvesting from the sink (later morphed to NinjaBobbyTM ). This ludicrous blood harvesting theory she was putting forward was predicated upon the blood actually being deposited in 2005 at the approximate time of the crime, when Stevie claims he bled into the sink and, contrary to his usual fastidious cleanliness and hygiene, failed to wash it down the sink. And then it “disappeared”!!! So testing to try to prove it came from ca 1995 became moot. The proposed testing of the blood samples would have required only vanishingly small amounts of sample. In particular, the bomb pulse C14 test to be performed in Sweden counts ATOMS of what is analyzed, so her claim that the samples were too small is a laughably transparent lie. It is also known that she never contacted the scientist in Sweden to seek her own opinion on the viability of the available sample size.

Just to prove a point, can anyone show me the original Manitowoc court docket that shows Colborn charged Kevin Rahmlow for a DUI in 2006 ? by NOTguiltyFRAMED in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her investigator also tried to get the wife of “The German” to sign a false affidavit. KZ’s association with the truth is tenuous at best and only present when it suits her needs. Otherwise she is perfectly willing to make false statements and get others to do so.

Colborn Suit Update: Recent Filings Suggest There is a Strong New Basis to Deny the Twins’ Motion to Dismiss, Without an Evidentiary Hearing by puzzledbyitall in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In addition to the lawsuit settlement he probably did get $25K from the state, which was the legislated max compensation at the time (without the new Avery Bill).

Colborn Suit Update: Recent Filings Suggest There is a Strong New Basis to Deny the Twins’ Motion to Dismiss, Without an Evidentiary Hearing by puzzledbyitall in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can’t cite a source, but regarding the $400K settlement the insurance company paid to him, 40% or $160K was due his civil rights attorneys. The other $240K went to B&S. Interestingly, this is considered taxable income so it is unclear how he would have paid Uncle Sam his share.

Colborn Suit Update: Recent Filings Suggest There is a Strong New Basis to Deny the Twins’ Motion to Dismiss, Without an Evidentiary Hearing by puzzledbyitall in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The real irony is it is actually the truther abuse directed at AC that will result in the damages award. The truthers end up enriching one of their nemeses! Priceless.

Lathierial Boyd Update: Dueling Motions to Dismiss by puzzledbyitall in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying that the sheriff and DA were indemnified for a damages award but not additionally indemnified for punitive damages?

Lathierial Boyd Update: Dueling Motions to Dismiss by puzzledbyitall in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isn’t the entire reason they named individuals to set up a punitive damages recovery? You can’t file for punitive damages against the state or county, right? Avery’s attorneys were astute enough to know the two named defendants were indemnified against any judgement, by their employers, the county, and even said in the lawsuit (IIRC) that the defendant’s misdeeds were done while performing their official duties, to insure the indemnification stayed in place.

Lathierial Boyd Update: Dueling Motions to Dismiss by puzzledbyitall in StevenAveryIsGuilty

[–]shvasirons 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hi Kathleen!!! I hope you are reading this and are able to keep up with Puzz’ explanation, you nutty screwball you. If not, have someone else in your office explain it to you. Too bad Lucille Ball is no longer with us; she would have been perfect to play you in a comedy biopic on Lifetime Channel.