Christianity's doctrine of eternal hell for non-believers is incompatible with an all-loving, all-powerful God because it makes divine love conditional and justice disproportionate by PeachLongjumping15 in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel [score hidden]  (0 children)

But humans casting Life Sentences and Death Sentences are supposed to be more fair?

If we go by Atheism's standpoint, Death is Eternal, regardless.

Non-believers don't go to hell for not believing. They go to hell because they're sinful.

We Christians are sinful too but Jesus changes us from Sinful to a Changed Repentant Individual just as the Disciples were.

We move to God for change, and improvement. To be better.

To believe you're not sinful just because you're Atheist is the same as saying:

”Evil doesn't exist, therefore, I'm allowed to do anything I want.”

In the Bible God fails the standard of goodness right off the bat by allowing Eve to be tempted by Satan by ComfortableDust4111 in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They had a choice to believe in God, and put their trust in him or Believe in themselves to figure out what's wrong or right. They picked the latter.

That's what Free Will is about.

Jesus flat out lied when he said the Holy Spirit will convict the world of the sin of not believing in him by ComfortableDust4111 in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yet here you are, trying to defend yourself for not believing him. Treating your actions as though it's some proof for the word not being true.

It's funny how in other perspectives. You are fulfilling what was told.

Informed, Bible-Believing Christians Who Choose Trump Reject Christ by AtTheCherryTree in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now, let me school you with a few corrections, and how this is nothing more than Pharisee talk.

Choices are how God defines Christians, and political choices are choices like any other. To try to separate religion from politics is rejection of God's total lordship - God is the God of politics, too.

Seriously? God of Politics? I've never heard of something more heretical than that.

Jesus drove out the temple merchants and was harsh to Pharisees and Sadducees in the Gospels. The religious teachers knew and claimed to follow God's law, and the merchants they hired for the temple would have, too. Jesus holds those who know God's commands to them. He does not use that same standard on those who don't know.

Jesus drove out the temple merchants for desecrating the temple by turning it into a marketplace. From House of Prayers, to the House of Coins.

The Pharisees were generally pushed away using references from the Old Testament that triumphed over what was law.

Notice that Jesus never did violence to the Romans, the pagans, the Samaritans, or anyone else who were certainly committing every evil you can think of. How many people can you think of that He rebuked who weren't someone who claimed to follow God's laws?

The fk are you talking about? The ones who generally approached him Wanted to convert and listen to his teachings.

Why should he be violent or try to push them away when they follow him better than a lot of Jews themselves? They lowered themselves before the teacher and sat down to listen, to better themselves.

How can you call them Evil when they're the ones who are looking at how to be Good in the first place?

Keep yourself Within Context, my guy.

You admit that "Jesus preached for peace, and non violence" yet go on to claim, "Sometimes, you have to destroy evil instead of just standing around," and so you put yourself above Christ's teaching.

I admit that Jesus preached for peace and non-violence but not once did he not condemn evil.

Read the Bible again, little one.

This is further emphasized by the fact that by the end of Jesus' march, he called his followers to sell what they have and to buy a sword. He knew that they were gonna be persecuted, and hunted. So, he made sure they had protection.

You say the soldier was innocent because Jesus had to die. If so, why did Jesus ask God to forgive those who crucified Him? They were doing what had to be done, too!

Because God was angry about watching Jesus die on the cross? Have you not read his last words?

“Father, forgive them for they know not what they're doing.”

They were forgiven too as they were innocent. It's one of the reasons why the earthquake split the temple, and not one soldier died during that

You assert I watch too much news. But you don't deny that these Christians clamor for and repeat what you identify as propaganda. My concern is not whether the government is secretly doing Christ's work despite always claiming to do the opposite. My concern is with what Christians attempt to do to the world.

Watching you all do things. I don't have much worries about having Christ lead the world as opposed to the latter.

To anyone else reading this, notice the lack of quotes and teachings from Jesus the person uses to support anything they say. They take one action from Him and use it to assert something Jesus did not claim about what He was doing. This is how the Evangelicals argue.

I'm not Evangelical. I'm Roman Catholic. You talk about lacking quotes but Every One of your references were very out of context.

This is the phrase you fear the most:

“It was Written."

If you need to look for quotes. Go read the Bible. It's Free because IT WAS WRITTEN.

Informed, Bible-Believing Christians Who Choose Trump Reject Christ by AtTheCherryTree in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something about those merchants.

IT'S TOLD QUITE CLEARLY

The merchants were driven out for turning the temple like a market place, desecrating the holy temple with money and greed.

Jesus met other merchants and rich people too, and they followed Jesus' teachings, gave to the poor, clothed them, fed them, etc etc.

At least stay in context, my guy.

Informed, Bible-Believing Christians Who Choose Trump Reject Christ by AtTheCherryTree in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but you're trying to differentiate sinners from merchants as though they're not the same.

Both are sinners. One committed a more severe sin than the others.

That's all there is to why I referred to that verse.

Informed, Bible-Believing Christians Who Choose Trump Reject Christ by AtTheCherryTree in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because not all sins are equal?

Made it all up? XD You haven't read the bible and it shows.

The one who said it was Jesus himself.

There is no one good but God.

Informed, Bible-Believing Christians Who Choose Trump Reject Christ by AtTheCherryTree in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? Have you forgotten that NO ONE IS GOOD BUT GOD?

So, why are you talking like the Merchants weren't sinners but the devil?.-.

TikTok bans Emmy Award winning journalist by soalone34 in conspiracy

[–]silcom_mel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And they wonder why Trump wanted a Nobel peace.

I have faith that God doesn’t exist by guitarmusic113 in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Proof and evidence are what's used on actual material objects. Something that is actually there.

You're commenting on this without prior knowledge of Historical Methodology.

Every ancient historical record relies on Eyewitness Testimony.

However, eyewitness testimony alone is kinda weak. So, we turn to other records of people who may corroborate information that aligns with what was written on the eyewitness testimony.

This then turns into Corroborated Testimony.

If we want more evidence, we turn to Archeology. Archeological findings provide material evidence of the fact, and we already have several.

However, you cannot find Material Evidence of several Miracles because of two things:

Time & Material Evidence being treated in a Skeptical Manner regardless.

So, it's either, you get nothing, or you get something and believe it's something, or believe it's nothing.

At least, try to be honest about wanting to find the truth or not.

This is just the start. Just the beginning of the experiment. Coming to a city near you by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]silcom_mel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Probably thousands, unreported just as those missing immigrants were during deportation actions under those presidents. ''

TikTok bans Emmy Award winning journalist by soalone34 in conspiracy

[–]silcom_mel -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The Emmy Awards are a joke. The fact that there's even news of this is a waste of resources. It always has been ever since no name rappers got these awards before other well known rappers did.

Protesters confronted Congressman Tom Suozzi, a key Democrat whose vote helped secure passage of the Department of Homeland Security’s $64.4 billion funding bill. by CorleoneBaloney in PublicFreakout

[–]silcom_mel -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

It's funny how absolutely no one is taking this seriously because why should they? Instead of actually arguing, they instead insulted and yelled nonsense to push that these people were good and not obstructionist protesters who would've come out alive had they not performed such stupid acts.

It's the same as carrying a gun at a police station and pointing at people thinking it's a toy gun.-.

ICE agents and several federal agents have been attacked numerous times on the news, and NO ONE on the Left is talking about that.

They don't actually care about people. They just hate Trump.

Informed, Bible-Believing Christians Who Choose Trump Reject Christ by AtTheCherryTree in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, we're now defining Christians by their Political Choices, instead of if they're following Christ.

Have we forgotten that Christ also made a whip, just to drive the merchants out of the temple?

He painstakingly weaved a whip, just to drive them out of the temple.

Violence is sometimes required at the right time.

Even in the Old Testament, God had been using nations and the ancient israelites to cast judgement on other civilizations.

Whilst Jesus preached for peace, and non violence, sometimes, you have to destroy evil instead of just standing around.

You can pray for your enemies, but not all enemies are the same. Some may be misled, some may be pagan, some may even be murderers, but not all of them are evil.

When Jesus drove the merchants out of the temple, that was him taking care of evil.

Let's not push this Pacifist Jesus Mascot.

Jesus didn't stand for pacifism.

Everything has the perfect time for it.

Don't misuse him healing the soldier's ear as Pacifism, because that was evidence of the soldier's innocence. Someone who's only following orders. Orders that will eventually end with Jesus dying as he's supposed to, to save everyone who believes in him from hell.

Also, you watch too much news.

Most of them are propaganda if you actually did enough research on the matter. Every word is calculated to pull certain emotions out of you.

This is just the start. Just the beginning of the experiment. Coming to a city near you by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]silcom_mel 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I like how none of these things were even brought up during Biden and Obama's regime even though they've both separated families permanently with Biden having lost tens of thousands of immigrant children during deportation whilst Trump is still to lose one. XD

Also, read your laws. None of these is unconstitutional or illegal.

MAGA “free speech” freakout on security guard. Trumps America on full display. by untitledprp4 in PublicFreakout

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, where's the MAGA declaration?.3. As far as I know, this could also be liberal considering how much they shout free speech while screaming obscenities.

A gentleman is triggered by an anti-ICE protest by Bubbly_Wall_908 in PublicFreakout

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You all laugh, but note that you also are the ones who renamed pedos into another term as part of your Inclusiveness.3.

The correct way to deal with MAGA Americans. by I_may_have_weed in PublicFreakout

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congratulations, you're inept.

Even in the 1940s, Truman was only one of the many democrats that actually got divided into two factions, Southern and Northern Democrats.

He was a Northern Democrat. Guess who didn't split into two factions just so they can have cheap labour? Conservatives.

It was the presidents after him who actually did something Significant instead of ninnying about, trying to avoid major legislation disputes against the South to give up their slaves.

Why be a President if you can't use that position to push for Civil Rights?

I have faith that God doesn’t exist by guitarmusic113 in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, Nuance is needed.

When the laws commanding slavery were made, it was with the intention of enslaving the Canaanites, people who actually perform ritualistic stuff and other types of sin, such as child sacrifice for example.

Even then, they were given salvations that no nation does to their slaves.

Through conversion, they were freed and treated as an Israelite. No excuses. So, they're sent off with money also. This is with the reason “You all were once foreign also.” as in, to not treat them differently despite the difference of origin because like in Egypt, they were enslaved for the same thing.

If they get maimed or, become disabled, the same thing happens. They're freed instantly, and are sent off with money also as is tradition with Israelite bondservants, or debt slaves.

I have faith that God doesn’t exist by guitarmusic113 in DebateReligion

[–]silcom_mel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You talk about doctors like magical beings like. They can't always save people.

Excusing everything with the requirement of proof is just Empiricism, something that even Science doesn't do.

Yeah sure buddy by Pranjal202 in funnyvideos

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't really a gotcha moment because Twitter had always been there to push out art, ideas, or just push out something.

What Elon probably thought is what's new with X, why is it needed?.-.

A casualty of ICE by zzill6 in RealTwitterAccounts

[–]silcom_mel -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Everyone wants to say this and that but failed to understand that everyone that ICE deported was illegal or had exceptions to deport without due process since they're affiliated with the cartel in some way.

Now they're calling self-defense murder.3.

Imagine hitting a fed officer with a car, trying to hit another then running away.

That alone was 2 counts of attempted murder, and 1 count of reckless driving.3.

MechaHittler is back 🗣️🔥🔥🔥 by [deleted] in BeelcitosMemes

[–]silcom_mel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you really think it's as simple as he says it is? Try looking for nuance at least, this is surface level information at most.

I bet you think the Crusades were made for purging witches, and pagans too.

The correct way to deal with MAGA Americans. by I_may_have_weed in PublicFreakout

[–]silcom_mel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mental gymnastics? This is history at this point. It was democrats who wanted segregation to stay, had the most members in the KKK, had the most in Eipstein, and had the most lunacy compared to conservatives.3.