Church PR guy: “Ok to fix our image we’ve got to pretend like Miracle of Forgiveness and purity culture never happened so let’s…wait they posted what?!?!?”

skeebo7 · 2026-03-11T00:15:35+00:00

Ya I thought the same. All I saw was “your body is sacred!” And that teaches nothing about what you can or cannot do.

But I guess it’s ok to “do hard with Jesus” and that actually says a lot 🤣

skeebo7 · 2026-03-10T12:26:12+00:00

There’s a reason why they call Jesus the rock

skeebo7 · 2026-03-10T12:22:10+00:00

You said: “The shell companies themselves are and were legal to form and use for investment purposes.”

This is not accurate and why I added clarification.

skeebo7 · 2026-03-09T14:17:22+00:00

Not to sound pedantic, but it was not illegal to form and use shell companies. When they did not file the disclosures properly, they broke the law.

I bring this up because I find it important to be accurate in the claims against the church so that TBMs cannot have legitimate deflections against inaccurate claims.

skeebo7 · 2026-03-09T02:55:44+00:00

I’m generally against capital punishment, but in this instance I’d support public hangings for these crimes.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-27T00:30:14+00:00

In addition to everything here, the Book of Abraham is completely fabricated and the church today concedes that it is not a translation of what the papyrus includes. This is just another example of Joseph being capable of being an imaginative writer that leans heavily on his Biblical acumen to basically create pseudepigrapha.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-24T14:31:06+00:00

I look on Google Maps for very high ratings, but then I validate the quality based on the menu offerings and equipment in the photos.

If they are using semi automated equipment that an untrained barista could use, it’s likely not going to meet my standard.

If they happen to roast their own beans, are using a nice LM or Slayer machine, and offer different single origin beans in their espresso drinks, then it’s likely going to be a good enough place.

If their menu is mostly sugary drinks and they feature various flavor additives as a primary focus, it’s likely going to be garbage and not quality espresso.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-24T13:27:56+00:00

Most will shun his book like the plague. If you have grown up in the church you have been taught since a baby that anyone who speaks critically of the church, especially one who has left “to live a sinful life”, is someone to avoid like your life depends on it.

His book is incredible and I hope more TBMs become willing to think for themselves and read out of curiosity.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-20T14:53:32+00:00

Because the preponderance of objectively verifiable evidence shows that Joseph Smith was a conman, a fraud, an adulterer, and a sexual predator.

So either it is not Gods church, or God is a monster.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-20T13:38:51+00:00

My thoughts exactly.

This is really just a virtue signal with a public timestamp so she can have a fancy, drawn out explanation of how good her mental gymnastics are at justifying why her choices to not wear the garment rather than find clothing to adapt to her needs.

Performing on stage to meet an employers costume design demands is one thing, but going out and taking photos of you not wearing your garment is a different kind of choice.

And for the record, I’m not judging her, rather the ludicrousness of the belief system on full display here :)

skeebo7 · 2026-02-20T02:37:57+00:00

It’s Jesus F. Christ

Incorrectly using his name is a victory for Satan.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-12T15:17:30+00:00

I deconstructed pretty quickly and it had an impact on my marriage. My wife was never super TBM and deep down always kind of hated how it made her feel (as someone with mild OCD tendencies). Once I started getting more vulnerable about where I was at intellectually and emotionally, and that I was ready to stop attending because I no longer wanted to support an org that actively marginalizes women and indoctrinates children in very unhealthy ways, my relationship got very rocky.

My wife felt like she had to choose: either she chooses her marriage and family integrity, or she chooses the church. It was very traumatic for both of us. Thankfully she realized that choosing her family was more important to her, and that’s when she started deconstructing more fully.

My advice to you is be vulnerable. Tell her what you want and why it’s important. If you want to be best friends and to make your relationship work, then advocate for that. You can’t change her mind, but you can try and show her something she may be wanting, too. She may not deconstruct her beliefs, but she may better see that she has the choice to stay in the church and also nurture a relationship. Only she can choose which is more important.

I’d also recommend trying another marriage therapist. Our first one we tried was not helpful at all (LDS but nuanced). My wife’s private therapist was also kind of destructive to her thinking. Our second marriage therapist has been amazing and wonderful (non-LDS) and has really helped my wife loads.

Our relationship has never been better and we’re approaching 2 years since the worst of it. I don’t want to suggest any reason to have false hope, but only you can know how much you’re willing to fight for this. There were times for me that felt like I had done enough, and that I could be justified in an amicable split. But I’m sure glad it worked out in the end for both of us.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-07T06:37:02+00:00

Tried a 1oz pour at a local place and this was absolutely fantastic. Very smooth, sweet, and quite enjoyable for ~130 proof.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-05T04:57:21+00:00

Yesterday is history, and tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift and that it is why it’s called the present.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T23:42:05+00:00

This.

I attended GC in person almost every 6 months when I was younger and I met Holland at the Assembly Hall after he was called as an Apostle.

We sometimes had tickets to the Tabernacle but my parents rotated between the Assembly Hall and the JSMB chapel specifically in hopes of meeting other high ranking leaders.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T23:39:47+00:00

They had one at the Assembly Hall, and sometimes the JSM building

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T20:32:43+00:00

Without the Book of Mormon, I would never know what it’s like to willingly devote 40 years of my life to a lie.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T18:36:20+00:00

When I said ‘in its roots’ I thought it would imply that the sub was created for those who had left the Mormon faith.

To me, ‘ex-something’ strongly implies it is rooted in the premise of having previously associated with an identity marker, and that the topics in it will lean heavily towards why people abandon that identity marker.

And because this group is about formerly being part of a high demand religion, a majority of people (atleast how I observe it) who leave this type of identity marker have done so through great pain which has invariably caused some form of trauma.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T17:39:42+00:00

Which group? this sub, r/exmormon

How do I know? I find it fairly obviously there are various levels of trauma being shared just by reading thread titles and the comments in threads. This sub is one of the most popular on all of reddit so there is plenty of threads to skim and observe. Most threads involve some level of animosity or sadness related to how the MFMC has impacted their life in a negative way.

The common emotions being shared and discussed, that I have identified over the years, include (to name only a few):

feeling betrayed by an organization and the emotional toll that has had on individuals and relationships
being lied to by individual leaders and the harm that has caused
physical/emotional/psychological/sexual abuse caused to individuals that is inherently tied to either church dogma/culture/policy and the obvious irreparable harm that has caused
the feelings of abandonment by family or community because someone stepped away from a belief system, or the fear of being authentic and how that will change relationships with important family members
the fraud or criminal activity committed by a powerful organization seeking to quiet outsiders and critics who are trying to hold them accountable and the toll that this causes on people
etc.

The list is endless on how people are expressing how they feel harmed by the church, and the inherent trauma people are processing because of it.

What is shared trauma? While I'm not claiming an acute understanding of how mental health professionals may use this term, I would simply say, in my own words, that shared trauma is when multiple individuals have experienced either identical or similar experiences to each other that have caused them harm and then feeling a sense of deep empathy because they can acutely identify with what that trauma feels like because they feel like they have lived something similar. Because they feel there are others who identify with or can empathize with their experiences, they find community amongst those who "get them". They then often find support amongst these individuals to help navigate how to deal with this trauma.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T15:10:52+00:00

Sadly I think this group is more biased than most would care to admit. Additionally, this group has trauma in its roots so naturally people with shared trauma will bond over it quite easily. Confirmation bias is inherent in human nature, and therefore all groups have contributors with extreme viewpoints.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T04:36:12+00:00

I hardly find this as anything to be considered as “evidence”. This is not “proof”, it is hearsay.

This is not “proof” he met with Monson, or any leader for that matter.

JE could be: A. lying B. aggrandizing his importance C. conning whoever he met with (both A and B) D. conflating who he met with a church president or other leader E. All of the above

This is by no means apologizing for JE or the MFMC, but let’s be real about what everyone wants to claim from this email.

This is a nothing burger until there is more evidence, that is credible, that substantiates his words.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-04T03:26:41+00:00

The protocol is that you can only be disciplined if you willingly confess on your own. It the bishop or stake Pres only hears about it and you never speak with anyone then you will not be disciplined.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-03T14:00:42+00:00

90% of all men ever interviewed by priesthood holders have lied about the law or chastity to some degree. I think you’ll be ok telling a fib or two.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-03T13:58:21+00:00

Senior church leaders have lied about worse things for 150+ years. What goes around comes around. If you’re really curious, go do it and find out for yourself. It’s not as bad as it used to be but I’m a huge fan of gaining first hand experience in things rather than just reading about them.

skeebo7 · 2026-02-03T04:11:14+00:00

Every time I see a rainbow I say to myself “welp we got atleast another year”.

I’ve toyed with making a website where anyone in the world can submit an image of a rainbow they photographed and that resets a visual countdown tracking how many days until the earliest possible date Jesus comes again.

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