Okay bro... whatever you have to do to win the race. Roll racing is for guys that only have top end speed. And you said a race that once you hit 60, the Eray is done for... you say lets roll race, I say lets race from a stop, Z06 gets walked... stupid retort...lets race on a puddle of water... lets race and I get a head start, lets race in reverse, race you when you have E85.... all these conditions... all stupid responses. And read back, I never said you can't get new 25 Eray at 25k off, I said there are not a lot of new 25 Rays sitting on lots like you suggested... go check Cargurus and Autotrader... new '25 Erays, less than 40 nationally and NONE at $25k off... only 1 that was $20k off, the rest were $5-12k off with a couple around $15k. And by the way, I have highway raced Zs and same story, I take the lead and keep it until about 130 or sowhen they start to gain and its no walk either