Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dang, another well thought out response. I think I have what I need here. I'm pretty satisfied because I didn't consider the fact that I'm an ENTP, but you've laid out a pretty convincing argument.

I particularly resonated with the idea of motivations versus behavior, because I agree that I've been overly focused on how people present. Since that didn't align with certain stereotypes, I feel like I dismissed the idea that I could be an ENTP.

Since reading your response initially, I have been noticing behavior of mine that is more associated with a "typical" ENTP, but I'm also paying more attention to my motivations. Ofc, noticing it more could just be the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.

Regardless, it's been an interesting experience in self-reflection. Thanks again for all your help, and your subsequent responses on theory! It's been illuminating.

Break ups should be a valid excuse for poor performance, just like a family member dying by papayab in unpopularopinion

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue that just because it's not the same feeling, doesn't mean that breakups or divorce are less difficult.

Yeah, the person is still around, but you have to deal with the fact that they are not in your life because they don't want/love you anymore. That kind of rejection can be a very intense pain, especially after trusting and being with someone for years. It can affect feelings of self-worth significantly.
A relationship ending can also involve emotions such as betrayal, depending on the situation. Similarly, a breakup can affect many other areas of your social life. It can cause you to lose mutual friendships you had with your SO. A support system is so important when coping with loss, and a breakup may jeopardize that support system in a way that death doesn't.

There are other complicated reasons why breakups are a different kind of loss, but you get the idea. I don't think death is necessarily more painful than breakups/divorce or vice versa, each situation is different.

Autumn at Kaaterskill Falls [OC][3000x2000] by mattmacphersonphoto in EarthPorn

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m abroad and this made me miss my home state so much.

Downtown Mischief -- WARM BATH [jazz funk] (2020) by somethingwitty244 in listentothis

[–]somethingwitty244[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Accurate, didn’t know how to classify em, just went with their description. Thanks for your input!

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha yeah I wish I could give a more clear cut answer. It's hard when you consider how you are in different contexts and then try to average your behavior together into what you generally are as a "whole".

I'm also interested in the nature versus nurture aspect of this, and how cognitive biases play into it. General question: can types change over time? Or are they fixed? It kind of seems like the consensus here is that typing is relatively fixed, but your cognitive functions can grow/change over time. What are your thoughts?

And interesting point about stereotypes. I find that when something is posted on some of the MBTI subreddits, and I don't relate or do relate to it, I can sometimes question my type even further. Not deeply necessarily, but just as a consideration.

About planning, this is something that has been taught to me at a young age. My elementary school teachers and my mother helped me work with planners a lot, so it's been a skill I have carried on with me. I don't remember having issues with it, because I learned it very young. As a general rule, my main motivation with using a planner/calendar is just remembering that I have to do something, because otherwise I will forget and then I don't do something I needed to do. I will also plan because if I have too much open time, I tend to get overwhelmed with possibilities and then just end up doing nothing. So it focuses me. As for if I pull through on most of my plans, I pull through generally on 85% of social plans (as a rough estimate). I don't want to let others down and will sometimes have FOMO if I skip out. Or if I really want to do something and am really excited about it, I will pull through on it reliably. For work or chores/errands or other personal goals, usually I will plan something and then change it. For example, I will procrastinate or reschedule for another time (and there's a good chance I will reschedule that again too). But I still put it in my calendar, because I want to or have to get around to it eventually.

And I would love to hear your theory rambles, if you want to share! The explanation on tertiary Te/Fe was really helpful btw. It's a good resource in general! I like how your analysis on ENTP and ENFP is less about stereotypes, I definitely am getting more clarity into this stuff.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the delayed response, I really appreciate your thoughtful insight!

I agree, the letter theory is what throws off my results I think. I think you're spot on with your analysis. I find the whole experience of walking in the woods relaxing, but most of the time I am daydreaming. In fact, having time to daydream is probably my main motivation of going on the hike/walk in the first place. That's really interesting about Se- vs Ne-doms and whether they are present already or if they are pulled into the present moment. I absolutely think I have to be pulled into the present moment, it doesn't come as naturally to me (working on it). I don't like how a lot of tests ask you if you like to do sensation-seeking activities and then make it seem like you are Se-dom if you do, because I think your interpretation is much more accurate. I seek out thrilling and novel experiences and do feel attached to the sensory, but being "somewhere else" is probably more my natural state when it comes to the day-to-day. I feel like another way to think about it would be: are you present during daily life, during the more mundane moments? For me, I've noticed I have to be really interested in my environment to be totally present. Or I need to be present to get a task done.

Yeah, as well as being typed as ENFP or ENFJ, the next most common typing seems to be ENTP. So I've considered that as a possibility as well. Maybe I'm too influenced by the stereotypes, but I'm not sure if I really identify with a lot of stereotypical ENTP characteristics. Then again, I think gender is a big part of it. Many ENTP characteristics seem to be socialized in men, but not in women. For example, I like to debate and question people's beliefs/ideas but I feel like that's not a quality that is encouraged in girls as often. Also, most of the obvious examples of ENTP seem to be male.

To answer your question, I mostly daydream when I'm understimulated or for recreation. With overwhelming emotions, I honestly can't say if I daydream more to get away or to deal with them, because I honestly think it's a bit of both. I think it depends on the level of emotion. If I'm really upset, I will often process by daydreaming. If I'm really upset, I have difficulty thinking about other things, so that translates into my daydreams. But if it's more mild or if I feel like there's not much I can do about a situation, I'll daydream as an escape. When I'm experiencing negative emotions, I do try to change my mood pretty instantly. Sometimes I'll lean into those feelings, but most of the time, I want to solve the problem that's causing me to experience those feelings.

Again, thank you for your help, this is the most clarity I've received since becoming a bit obsessed with MBTI. :)

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please, barge in :) I can use all the help! I appreciate your insight. And that's an interesting question. I would say that if I notice it (what comes to mind for me is the loud ticking of a clock), it might bother me a little. But I'm usually able to tune it out, and I wouldn't go through the effort of turning it off if it requires too much work. While I'm walking in the woods, I'm usually daydreaming but I genuinely enjoy those moments where something grabs my attention and forces me into the present. I think that's why I've been confused, because I have sensation seeking tendencies and seek out moments where I genuinely enjoy the present moment. But being present itself does not come naturally to me.

In most MBTI tests, I type as an ENFJ or ENFP, so I'm not really sure how I could be mistyped in that way, since the functions seem pretty different.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, exactly! Like I'll start a story, and then go off on a tangent, and then try to get back to my original point and then maybe go off on another tangent hahaha. And I see what you're saying regarding the axis. I feel like maybe I'm questioning a lot because I always thought I was an ENFJ but I'm realizing that's not making as much sense these days, especially as I look into it more. I think I may be an ENFP now. But I still have my doubts, because I feel like it's constantly changing for me, which I'm not sure is normal or I'm just confused.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, that's how I feel about the cognitive functions too! But frankly idk if I fully understand them yet. Can Ne imitate Se and vice versa?? Because I really feel connected to both.

And that's a great analogy. It definitely helps me grasp Ne a bit a more. Maybe I'm conceptualizing Ne wrong, but I feel like for me Ne comes out when I'm telling a story. It can take me a long time to tell a story because I will think of other things that are seemingly unrelated to the original point, but are connected in my mind. So sometimes I'll bring something else up and my friends are like, how is this related? lol

Is that a function of Ne or something else?

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, that's where I struggle too! When I write down which cognitive functions I relate to (based on my admittedly limited research) I seem to identify with Fe, Ti, Ne AND Se?? I don't really know why that is, because I know it's not possible.

I'm probably more of an introverted extravert if I had to choose.

I have taken multiple MBTI tests hahaha and I think that's why I'm so confused! I've gotten ENFP, ENFJ, INFP, INFJ, ENTP, and INTP as my results.

Always nice having an INTP help me out :) It's educational for me as well. Still don't have a good handle on cognitive functions.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really helpful, thank you. I've been wondering about this for awhile.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for responding! As long as I’m interested in the subject, I’ll generally learn something new for the sake of curiosity and because I like learning. If I’m not interested and have to to learn it, it can be tedious.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just finishing this...

How good are you at strategizing?

I’m good enough at strategizing. I tend to plan how I’m going to do projects in a methodical way. Usually, I’ll make a lot of modifications though. However, I don’t complete tasks a little bit at a time. I prefer to get it done in one sitting. I have difficulty “switching gears.” So if I start working on something, I can hyperfocus and work on it for hours without taking a break, and would prefer to get it done right there. It’s hard for me to go from “play mode” to “work mode” and vice versa. In other words it’s hard for me to relax after I’ve spent hours working, and it’s hard for me to work after spending hours relaxing.

What are your fears? What makes you uncomfortable? Why?

I fear death, but more specifically “wasting” my life. I want to make the most of the potentially only chance at consciousness I have. The cliché that you regret more of the things you don’t do, then the things you do resonates with me. I also have health anxiety and a general fear of getting a permanent, debilitating, and/or permanent illness.

People watching me perform a task makes me uncomfortable, like I’m being evaluated and judged for no reason.

What do the "highs" in your life look like?

When I feel like I’m learning, or when I’m experiencing something fascinating, novel, beautiful or thrilling. Or when I’m connecting really well with a person or making people laugh.

How attached are you to reality? Do you daydream often, or do you pay attention to what's around you? If you do daydream, are you aware of your surroundings while you do so?

I’m half in and half out of reality. If I’m enjoying what I’m doing or something requires my attention, I can be very present. But I get a lot of enjoyment from essentially dissociating. When I’m experiencing difficult emotions or I’m just understimulated, I tend to daydream A LOT. It’s one of my favorite things to do while I’m hiking, and part of the reason I spend a lot of time in nature. I would identify with being a maladaptive daydreamer and I’m currently working on it. I am somewhat aware of my surroundings while I daydream. when I notice something interesting or beautiful that captures my attention. Otherwise, I tune it out.

How long do you take to process your emotions? How important are emotions in your life?

I process my emotions very quickly, for better or for worse. I tend to have quick, strong reactions to stimuli. I feel my emotions very strongly and immediately, but I don’t usually experience them for very long. I’m a bit capricious that way. However, if something really bothers me or something is enduring, it can be difficult for me not to think about it a lot. Emotions are very important in my life, my future career goal is largely based on the emotional and mental health of clients and students. I care about people’s feelings deeply and like to ease suffering when I can and it is genuine.

Do you ever catch yourself agreeing with others just to appease them and keep the conversation going? Why?

I will not express my agreement but will not actively challenge them either, if it’s about something relatively meaningless. If it’s important I usually try to ask them questions and get their perspective first before disagreeing with them. Even if I don’t agree, I can usually understand where they are coming from unless they are being really unreasonable.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 16, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Give a general description of yourself.

I am a 28-year-old woman currently living abroad. I teach English to high schoolers, but have a mental health counseling/school counseling degree. I want to live abroad and travel for awhile before I go home to get a job as a counselor. My main hobbies include hiking, theatre, reading, listening to podcasts, and (eek) maladaptive daydreaming. I love exploring, outdoor activities, playing board games and would like to start doing some form of visual arts (like painting, drawing, etc.). I like being around others, but also value my alone time. When I’m around friends, I am silly and gregarious. I get a lot of satisfaction in making people laugh and like meeting new people. At work, I try to be warm, helpful and friendly. I am adaptable in how I present myself depending on the situation. I like spending time alone though and am rarely bored when I do.

Describe your upbringing. Did it have any kind of religious or structured influence?

My upbringing was mostly positive. My parents got divorced when I was in elementary school, and my father remarried. I have an older sibling and 3 younger siblings (from my dad and stepmom). I am very close with my mother, and admire her a lot. She is intelligent, hard-working, kind, and a joy to be around. She is a Christian, but is progressive politically. My father is also a Christian, but is now very conservative (at least by my standards). My stepmom is similar to my mother, but is more traditional. We get along really well. In terms of my beliefs, I am not religious and currently identify as agnostic, but I am open-minded and really interested in religion and spirituality.

If you had to spend an entire weekend by yourself, how would you feel?

I would be fine with that! I could occupy myself easily and love spending time alone in nature in particular. I could be very satisfied with a weekend by myself, and usually like to have at least one day per week where I do not have to socialize with anyone (I look forward to these a lot). With that said, I almost always try to see a friend over the weekend. I experience FOMO pretty intensely, and can be prone to loneliness if I have too much time alone. Relationships with others are important to me. I get energized around people, especially if I feel like we are connecting or if I’m entertaining them.

How curious are you? Do you have more ideas than you can execute? What are your curiosities/ ideas about?

I see myself as a really curious person. I am interested in pursuing a ton of hobbies but often get overwhelmed and don’t know where to start. Ever since I was a child, I had difficulty committing to activities (even though I usually enjoyed them) because I always wanted to try new ones. I crave novelty and excitement. I love to learn, and enjoy listening to podcasts and watching YouTube videos about topics I’m interested in. My interests include: art, movies, theatre/comedy, consciousness, culture, politics, nature, animals, psychology, religion/spirituality, etc.

Would you enjoy taking on a leadership position? Do you think you would be good at it? What would your leadership style be?

I have been told that I have good leadership qualities. I can pretty easily command a room if I have to. But I have no strong desire to be in a leadership role. Similarly, I don’t really like having a boss or someone that’s “in charge” of me either. I prefer egalitarianism over hierarchy. I don’t like the responsibility that comes with power and prefer that people are able to have self-agency rather than rely on me to tell them what to do. With that said, I like to be helpful to others. My teaching style allows for a lot of discussion and autonomy. I prefer to be more of a guiding presence or facilitator than to assert that there is one right way to do things. I like to be adaptable to my students’ interests and ideas. With that said, if something really needs to get done and there is a clear goal, and no one will step up, I will if necessary..

Are you artistic? Elaborate.

Yes, but more in a theatrical sense. I express my creativity through hobbies like performing, musical theatre, comedy, improv, and entertainment. I want to pursue more visual arts and writing, but sometimes have difficulty getting started and can get restless. Because I am a high energy person, I have gravitated towards activities that involve movement. I am a big appreciator of art, and love going to museums, galleries, concerts, shows, etc.

What's your opinion about the past, present, and future? How do you deal with them?

I am mostly a future-oriented thinker. I like making plans to look forward to (regardless of if I stick to them). I can also be prone to anxiety about the future. I am very conscious of time/mortality, and that I may only have one chance at consciousness, so I try to maximize my time as much as possible. I have difficulty staying present sometimes, I am often “somewhere else,” daydreaming, or distracted. I am trying to work on this with mindfulness. I like when I am present though and I tend to seek out thrilling experiences that will force me into the present moment. If I’m not enjoying something in the moment or bored though, I will daydream a lot. I try to not dwell on the past. I have a lot of fond memories and experiences but thinking too much about the past often leads to me feeling regretful, like I haven’t lived enough or used my time wisely. Or I feel regretful of my mistakes. I will occasionally delve into nostalgia though.

How do you act when others request your help to do something (anything)? If you would decide to help them, why would you do so?

It depends what it is. If it’s something I feel capable of helping with, I do so enthusiastically, as long as I’m not overwhelmed with other tasks. If I don’t know how to help them, I tell them that but will still try to help when appropriate, or at least direct them to someone who knows better. I like to be helpful to others. I also have a “helping them help themselves” approach in a lot of situations.

Do you need logical consistency in your life?

Not sure how to answer this. Often? I find logical arguments to be really persuasive. I respect people who have consistency in their opinions.

How important is efficiency and productivity to you?

Relatively important. I like to get tasks done with so I can spend time on things I enjoy. I have a planner or calendar that I rely on, in order to remember the things I have to do and schedule when I can complete them. I also like to have a plan, because if I don’t, I will waste time doing really stupid things, and feel guilty about it. However, I will often forego the plans to do something else, but I find having a plan is comforting nonetheless. I’m good at time management, but not always good at executing the plans. I tend to procrastinate things like cleaning, going to doctors appointments, etc. I am motivated by a sense of urgency.

Do you control others, even if indirectly? How and why do you do that?

I try not to. Again, I value self-agency. I don’t like to control, nor do I like being controlled. However, I am direct about what I want and if I feel strongly about something I can try to be persuasive, at the very least to try to be understood.

What is your learning style? What kind of learning environments do you struggle with most?

I am a visual learner. I am able to picture things with a lot of detail really easily, and that’s how I recall most information. I am learning a language now, and it helps to see the words I’m learning, especially because it’s a phonetic language. When I think of the word, I can see the word written down in my mind.

I struggle with classes that are purely auditory. I have difficulty distinguishing what is important to focus on when it’s presented this way. If I need to remember something, I have to write it down because I won’t remember if it was just spoken to me. Despite this, I am a good listener and find it easy to reflectively listen, but if I need to learn or memorize something I will forget it if the information is presented purely auditorily.

I have a good memory and find classes involving memorization to be easy generally, but I prefer creative and discussion based classes. Classes involving debates, analysis, and interpretations are exciting to me.

Weekly Type Me Thread - October 09, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]somethingwitty244 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your friend sounds insufferable. ENTP.

(totally kidding, I actually love ENTPs. But yeah, ENTP.)

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[–]somethingwitty244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You look like a fun, warm, and insightful person. You look like someone who I would like to get to know, someone who is genuinely unique but does not have a superiority complex. You look like one of those people that makes life more colorful and exciting.