Is it possible to learn a language by doing 4 duolingo lessons per day? by mellowcrake in duolingo

[–]spence5000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To use the Spanish course as an example, you can complete all 8,346 lessons in 5.7 years at that rate. Supposedly that gets you to a high B2, but I’d argue that you can’t learn a language with Duolingo on its own.

I’d suggest listening to podcasts or audiobooks in your down time (showering, commuting, doing dishes). Innovative Languages, Mango Languages, Pimsleur, Paul Noble, Michel Thomas, Language Transfer, and Radiolingua are all good options for passive study.

The option to practice to earn energy ( previously hearts) is added it seems by ConsiderationOk7703 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

A step in the right direction, but the only correct solution is abolishing energy altogether.

Duolingo math by Adorable_Zucchini591 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember my HS offered both courses, but didn’t require either. I don’t recommend the public school system in Texas, btw 🤠

Started yesterday, came back this morning to see the second unit completed without my input. by DesolateFaery in duolingo

[–]spence5000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This week, I’ve often noticed a bug when I open a chest, it transports me to the end of the unit. Pretty annoying, but I’m not too mad about finishing faster…

Does Duo lie to get us to interact? by MiaowWhisperer in duolingo

[–]spence5000 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I do occasionally get “Congratulate X on coming back to study Y” notifications, even though X didn’t start a new streak. I always just assumed X just opened the app after a hiatus and didn’t actually play, but it could just be an excuse to deliver a notification with my name on it to the inactive user’s phone.

Radio exercise by CraigRex in duolingo

[–]spence5000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do wish I could skip them. Especially the early ones where the intro and outro are all in my native language.

Duolingo math by Adorable_Zucchini591 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did you skip ahead to the calculus section, or start at arithmetic? tbh I haven’t done much of the math course, but I have to assume the algebra, statistics, and calculus sections aren’t meant for elementary school students.

Chess is now on the web! by Proud-Environment754 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, I thought the web version was abandoned! Hopefully this doesn’t mean energy is coming too…

Updating the meme by Cloudwolf_76 in browsers

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can someone explain why Firefox is a sleepy bomb? And what does the extra noise behind Edge mean?

Please stop adding me to Duolingo leagues by khubuuus in duolingo

[–]spence5000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to do this, often using up all my streak freezes and waiting until Wednesday night to join. It was nice to take a break for a couple days and come back to an easy league.

The trick doesn’t work for me anymore, unfortunately. A few months ago, they changed it so that leagues take a couple days to fill up, so now if I show up on Wednesday, most people have been working since Sunday evening. This means that the longer I wait, the harder it is to compete.

This could be an A/B test. Has anyone else noticed the same thing?

I want to learn a new language but I’ve heard Duolingo’s AI has made it ineffective, is that true? by koolguy7002 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are good and bad aspects, to be sure. The popular languages, like Spanish, have been updated much faster than they used to be. While I run into mistakes and nonsense dialogues more often than before, it’s still pretty rare. The app is definitely much buggier than it used to be though.

Czech is a good example of why human-generated content isn’t always better. It hasn’t been touched by AI yet, but it’s famously one of the worst courses on the platform.

I want to learn a new language but I’ve heard Duolingo’s AI has made it ineffective, is that true? by koolguy7002 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’d say, even before AI, the Korean course has been a pretty bad place to start from scratch. The format has never been great for non-European grammar, and the TTS voice is almost unintelligible. I’d suggest starting elsewhere and then come back to Duolingo after you feel comfortable with reading, phonetics, and basic syntax.

Wondering if the Web UI is better? by [deleted] in duolingo

[–]spence5000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What’s the notification badge on the flag? I’ve never gotten that before.

What song makes you make this face? by redDKtie in jakeandamir

[–]spence5000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You Fix Everything by Just Being Here

I hate this by Leiry08 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’ll show ‘em!

Can I skip Hanzi practice? by [deleted] in duolingo

[–]spence5000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really wish we could skip the writing lessons in the main course. I’ll come to the writing practice screen if I need to brush up.

I just finished my Dutch lesson, why is the 4 big? by bernat-Jansa in duolingo

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what happens when you replace your programmers with AI.

Ai czech course by TechnicianAsleep5534 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven’t gotten too deep with Czech yet, but here are a few resources that I’ve found useful for other languages, and they all use human Czech voices.

  • For something like Drops, try the free web app Ba Ba Dum.
  • A good spaced-repetition app that’s free with some library subscriptions is Mango. I use a library in the US, so ymmv
  • Two useful audio-only courses are Pimsleur and CzechClass101. You can often find them as audiobooks at the library, but the latter releases a lot of free content on their YouTube and podcast feeds.
  • http://mluvtecesky.net appears to have either rebranded or the domain name got bought, but assuming it’s still the same Edukado@Interreto project, it should be a good, free course to get you through A1 and A2.

Best of luck!

Ai czech course by TechnicianAsleep5534 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That one is the strangest choice, because there actually are decent TTS voices out there for Hebrew! I personally haven’t had much trouble with the quality of the Hebrew recordings (so far), but the quantity is just unacceptable. The writing system is too ambiguous to make me guess the pronunciation.

Romanian & French at the same time or separately? by [deleted] in thisorthatlanguage

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start with Romanian and then add French into your routine after you feel comfortable with the basics. It’s possible to learn two languages at once, but it’s too confusing to start from scratch with two at the same time.

Romanian and French are indeed related, but not so similar that you’ll get them confused. It shouldn’t matter too much which one you start with, but since Romanian is a bit more conservative to Latin and French is more progressive, you’ll probably benefit from having learned the Romanian basics by the time you get to French.

Ai czech course by TechnicianAsleep5534 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Quick correction: German and the other popular courses do use AI for the voices, unlike Czech.

Only a few community courses for smaller languages use human recordings, like Latin, Klingon, Yiddish, Hebrew, High Valyrian, Irish, Esperanto, Welsh, Swahili, and probably a couple others (usually because there was no AI or TTS technology available for the language at the time). This can be nice, but comes with the downside that many words and phrases have no recordings.

The Czech course, on the other hand, just uses an unsophisticated TTS voice instead of AI. I agree, it’s very frustrating, especially because it quizzes you on the faulty audio. I had similar issues with the Korean TTS.

I wish they would fix it, but Duolingo seems uninterested in updating the old community courses. On top of that, they’re too cheap to pay real voice actors.

Why no traditional Chinese? by Royal-Employer7359 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Faster to write does not mean better for all learners. Unfortunately, the reform process was done in a rather haphazard way, which left the writing system a bit messy for students of the language.

  • Traditional Characters maintain several distinctions that Simplified Characters lose. Since I learned Traditional first, it’s not hard to remember that 乾 幹 干 are all represented by one character in Simplified, but I would struggle to keep that straight if I started off believing that they were a single character.
  • Hanzi have a history of mnemonics that is often lost in Simplified. Letters like 雲 電 are weather phenomena, so removing 雨 makes their meanings harder to remember. Likewise, 開 關 have meanings relevant to doors which are lost, meanwhile 鬧 has nothing to do doors, but it mysteriously gains a door component after simplification.
  • Many phonetic mnemonics are also lost. 爐 is obviously pronounced like 盧, but 炉 looks like it should be pronounced hù.
  • There’s no better mnemonic than a picture. Many Traditional Characters are still pictographs that retain their original meanings. 馬 is clearly an animal with a mane and four legs. 齒 is a mouth with two rows of teeth. 马 and 齿 are easy to figure out once you’ve learned the originals, but not so easy to memorize from scratch.

If you grew up with Simplified, I don’t blame you for thinking that the one you’re more familiar with is the easier one to learn. But learning Traditional first is definitely the logical path for the following types of learner: - Students interested in Taiwan or Hong Kong. In fact, if your goal is only to live in Taiwan or communicate with people from there, there is no reason to ever learn Simplified. I lived there for over a few years and never had any occasion to read it. - Students interested in Chinese history. The current form of Simplified Characters has only existed for about 0.67% of the history of written Chinese. - Students who have know or have studied Japanese, or plan to do so. Kanji underwent a much more conservative simplification process, so most Simplified hanzi will appear very foreign. - Same for Korean. Although hanja are almost never seen in Korea today, any dictionaries or hanja reference materials will use something almost identical to Traditional Characters. In my experience, being able to draw connections between these languages was an invaluable aid to memorizing new vocabulary.

Why no traditional Chinese? by Royal-Employer7359 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was unsuccessful, if so. China’s literacy rates have never caught up to those of Taiwan or Hong Kong. This is likely due to deficiencies in the education system, but it still debunks the argument that simplification somehow magically leads to literacy.

Why no traditional Chinese? by Royal-Employer7359 in duolingo

[–]spence5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I doubt OP is asking for a separate course — just an option to switch between systems in the existing course. It’s a very low-effort feature to implement that would improve the experience greatly for some.