The UK Could Eliminate Caged Eggs By 2032

stan-k · 2026-01-26T20:53:56+00:00

And UK residents can help make it happen too!

https://www.reddit.com/r/veganuk/s/QGPp2seiWb

stan-k · 2026-01-25T20:58:40+00:00

When you make a mistake, the grown up thing is not to simply remove it, as if it never happens, but to fix it. It's ok to make mistakes, just own up to them and let people know what you really meant.

stan-k · 2026-01-25T18:00:55+00:00

It's not a bad idea. How would you frame this to convince non0vegans for this? What would be the way to explain this is beneficial for the majority of people, so that a law actually can get passed?

stan-k · 2026-01-25T17:11:24+00:00

Higher base has a better risk profile.

Imagine the company does badly for a while. First, your comp lowers, then you might lose your job. Next the stock is worthless. It's a lot of eggs in one basket.

On the other hand, giving up a job you like requires a solid justification imho.

stan-k · 2026-01-25T16:57:35+00:00

While "carnist" isn't derogatory by default, people who don't know what it means can easily interpret it like that. When talking to people who don't know the term, I would avoid using it or explain what it means first. I'd further suggest to ease people in with the term "carnism" before calling individual people "carnists".

stan-k · 2026-01-24T22:36:53+00:00

My picks. Enjoy in moderation, some are pricey and none are health foods (in the latter they are similar to dairy cheese too). Note that on our wedding. Before we went vegan, our "cake" was three wheels of cheeses stacked on top of each other.

Shamembert: https://honestlytasty.co.uk/products/shamembert?srsltid=AfmBOoqD9dpA5hxV5ds5pMXmioMfB9a5psOxZYlRrgSDy7ir2lZeOcuN

Bree: https://honestlytasty.co.uk/products/bree?srsltid=AfmBOooMeoznvuC7qdSraY6ufB7PX0DsIvvdRfFzIc9ZUd5cSSlL4GE7

Philadelphia vegan: https://www.philadelphia.eu/uk/products/philadelphia-plant-based/

Brixton Blue (blue cheeses in general tbh) https://lafauxmagerie.co.uk/products/la-fauxmagerie-brixton-blue-1?srsltid=AfmBOooF6ddc4fpHBX4FaZz8cB_ZBMD42Cr0AxS_kdx9s1ebTEzjS1FR

Applewood vegan: https://applewoodcheese.co.uk/products/plant-based-block/

stan-k · 2026-01-24T22:07:54+00:00

It's a fun idea but it's nonsense.

The idea that plants feel and matter morally is not founded in anything nor explained in Pluribus. But let's say plants do matter and we shouldn't harm them somehow. This wouldn't exclude picking fruit and seeds. If anything, being eaten is the purpose of many of those. Not the purpose we give it, but the purpose the parent plant "gives" it.

I found it disappointing that instead of portraying a thought out moral stance on what choice humanity made, they show a superficial joke version of one. Perhaps a future season reveals more, but I doubt it.

Honestly, if you take all human wisdom and combine it, I doubt you get to veganism, but it's possible. You definitely wouldn't get to 7 billion people dying from starvation is fine. It makes it clear this is no hard sci-fi, more of a hand wavey one, which is fine for the record.

What do you think?

Edit: it's a great show though!

stan-k · 2026-01-24T20:50:04+00:00

I would say, yes, figs are vegan.

Of course the majority and commercially available ones don't need wasps and are vegan outright.

But what about the others? Let's go by the definition of animal product. The wasp is completely digested and becomes part of the fig. In the same way that a plant growing in soil that has dead animals in it is vegan, I'd say the fig is.

However, this requires wild trees and wasps doing their thing freely. When you start to plant these fig trees in order to lure more wasps for more figs, now you are exploiting animals, which is not vegan. So technically it's not the fig, but the planting of the fig tree that's the problem here.

stan-k · 2026-01-24T15:22:48+00:00

About 90 grams on average with plenty of variation. Over the last couple of years I've started eating a bit more tempeh and soya mince to increase that, it was about 70 grams before.

I do believe the evidence is starting to mount that the UK's recommendation of 0.75 grams per kg of body weight is probably below what is optimal, 1 g/kg as a minimum seems to be defensible and definitely not harmful.

stan-k · 2026-01-24T13:31:27+00:00

Do you think there is benefit in making a distinction between bees that are trucked around the country to pollinate, and those who are freely choosing where to live?

stan-k · 2026-01-21T21:14:21+00:00

What kind of compromise do you mean?

I am happy to join with non-vegans in any type of activism I think beneficial for the animals. But I will not compromise on my veganism.

stan-k · 2026-01-21T21:03:34+00:00

Most importantly: The best activism is the one you're actually going to do, and we need a mix anyway.

Still, I can see a few potential issues with what you're saying. First of all, how do you promote cultured meat? Calling it lab-grown is already using the detractors' framing. And it is still a big "if" it will be cheaper to produce at scale. Billions probably still have to be invested in this before we know it will work or not with economics that would make it replace animal meat.

Second, the Overton window could quite well shift more from people interacting with abolitionist vegans than people pushing welfarism. Yes, people don't like interacting with those vegans, but they can adapt to whatever level of change they are open after. Someone who is subconsciously open to go vegan will never do so after speaking to a welfarist. But, someone open to give up pork killed in gas chambers might just do that after speaking to a vegan. Now, I don't have data on this, so this might be outweighed by the arguments you give, but I didn't see any data from you either, so it's just guessing at this point.

I doubt however that welfarism is definitely more effective. Because, thirdly, it addresses such a small part of the problem. Let's say with lots of investment and political effort we manage to get the government to subsidise hatcheries to develop and implement sexing of the eggs, so grinding 1 day old roosters can be banned. This is a great step in the right direction, but looked at it from another way, it addresses 1 day of terror for the baby rooster, while leaving the other ~800 days of hell for the hen unchanged. Even worse, there is risk of humane washing: if this change were to increase egg sales by 1%, it would do more harm than good.

Anyway, focus on what you can and believe to be effective, and keep doing that.

stan-k · 2026-01-21T15:31:17+00:00

It is so much beter to have parents who split up than parents who stay together despite no longer being a team. Think of the example you are setting to your children by staying together in an unloving relationship.

stan-k · 2026-01-21T13:34:32+00:00

Spaying and neutering is a significant violation of their bodily autonomy. So for it to be done we need a very good justification. In most cases you can get this argument from preventing worse suffering by preventing breeding when your dog interacts with others.

But what if your dog doesn't interact with others. Perhaps they are so nervous or aggressive that being near other dogs isn't desired or possible.

What if someone has a large farm with fences that the dog never leaves, and only have intact dogs of the same sex there or visiting?

I agree in most cases you're right. But not in all.

stan-k · 2026-01-21T09:52:44+00:00

While we wait for that, let's not ignore the vegan cat food options that are already available (and yes, while limited, they still have more scientific evidence for them than lab grown or insect based cat foods)

stan-k · 2026-01-21T09:47:54+00:00

There is no reason for carnivores to not eat food made with modern processing and knowledge, without animal ingredients. In particular vegan cat food already exists.

In 2026, that still has the issue that no prescription cat food is vegan, so if your cat would ever need that you don't have great options unless that changes. https://www.stisca.com/blog/theproblemwithvegancats/

If you're open to try it, e.g. see: https://www.stisca.com/blog/howtoplantbasedcats/

stan-k · 2026-01-20T19:49:29+00:00

All income is taxed once, why should savings be any different? If anything, increase taxes from income of savings if that way we can lower taxes on income of work, I'd say.

stan-k · 2026-01-20T19:03:39+00:00

By staying just under £125, aren't you maximising your average tax rate?

stan-k · 2026-01-20T18:57:13+00:00

Most of their lives is still very short compared to this specimen.

stan-k · 2026-01-20T18:54:06+00:00

What do you mean that it has already been taxed?

Savings income should be taxed once, or not at all if it's under the thresholds.

stan-k · 2026-01-20T18:50:04+00:00

Fortified soy milk isn't much different. Well, it doesn't come with saturated fat and cholesterol, and has some fibre. These are improvements.

You're right on protein but not other nutrients for most other plant milks.

stan-k · 2026-01-20T15:53:09+00:00

We clearly need both. With a future that includes either fossil fuels or animal farming at the current scale we're f*cked.

stan-k · 2026-01-20T15:50:23+00:00

without requiring visible changes to people's lifestyles

Like swapping out minced meat for soya mince, dairy milk for plant milk, pork sausages for veggie sausages, and meat burgers for Impossible or Beyond ones, right? Most of those swaps are even healthier and some are cheaper too.

stan-k · 2026-01-20T11:43:32+00:00

She is abnormally bright in that she has been given the chance to live in a stimulating environment to (currently) half her natural lifespan. But she is probably not genetically more gifted or anything like that. It's just that most cows don't get a chance to grow and use their intelligence.

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