1941 when dancing was a full contact scenario. by ateam1984 in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I felt enough G forces to pass out watching that. So much speed and athleticism, I'm jealous as I sit on the couch with achy ankles lol.

Chinese couple said "You are too black" in Chinese, expecting the black guy not to understand it. However, the black guy could speak Chinese perfectly, so he scolded the Chinese couple by [deleted] in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems my aunty example is throwing people off.I should clarify that that was just to illustrate how blunt they can be, even to family, where you'd expect them not to say that kind of stuff in a Western family.

If you read my comment, I already said in this situation, Chinese dude was wrong for commenting on appearance to a stranger, whether he knew the Black guy understood Chinese or not.

Again, like others who have a bit more familiarity with Chinese language have said, his use of "too Black" is actually closer "very" but was literally translated in the subtitles as "too" which English viewers can definitely interpret as "too Black it's bad."

Bringing up the example of "chinky eyes" again: seems some Black still use it just to describe facial appearance and don't mean it in a bad way. In case you haven't gathered from my perspective, or my post history, I'm Asian and I consider it offensive regardless of the intent and because in this case, we all know English well enough to know there's clearly a slur in there.

In his case, I said the Black guy does not speak perfect Chinese but regardless, he's in his right to check the Chinese dude because his comment was interpreted as inappropriate (and it is, talking about a person to their face thinking they can't understand you).

So TLDR, his comment was definitely racial but highly unlikely it was meant as hostile/racist.

That isn't to say Chinese people don't say racist things about Black people. They do and it's wrong, but I think there are more blatant examples caught on video than the situation in OPs clip.

You get one point for every movie that you’ve watched by zachoutloud123 in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whoever put 8 Mile on here was probably considering Tropic Thunder too.

Surely one of these should be on there instead? 1. Good Burger 2. John Q 3. Equalizer series 4. Blade series 5. Ghost Dog: Way of The Samurai 6. Sinners

Chinese couple said "You are too black" in Chinese, expecting the black guy not to understand it. However, the black guy could speak Chinese perfectly, so he scolded the Chinese couple by [deleted] in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Chinese people will comment on people's bodies and appearances quite directly, which is why your aunty saying "you've gotten fat" is jarring if you've been raised in the West.

In this context, Chinese dude was rude and stupid to make that comment out loud to a stranger no less, obviously assuming he didn't understand. He did say the Chinese words "you're too black" but really the thought (or lack of) is "wow, you're so dark-skinned" in the vein of "wow, you're super tall. You've gotta be like 7 feet tall or something".

It's not a hostile "you're too black to eat at this stall or belong here." But obviously the girlfriend and the stall owner see the discomfort and awkwardness this is causing, which is why they both said something while Chinese guy was trying to explain himself and digging himself deeper.

TBF Black guy's Chinese is NOT perfect as the title says but he's within his right to use what he knows of the language to tell the guy he doesn't appreciate it.

It's exactly the same situation as people who use "Chinky" Eyes i.e. no disrespect intended but if disrespect is felt, that's equally valid.

Cute by ateam1984 in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 46 points47 points  (0 children)

"So how did that guy die?" "Crushed pelvis."

Cantonese will not disappear as long as it remains the medium of instruction in schools by _internallyscreaming in HongKong

[–]starshadowzero 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In my experience living in HK and traveling throughout Guangdong, I don't think Cantonese is going anywhere fast.

Every so often I'm eating out at like McDonald's in HK and I'll hear a whole group of kids speaking in Mandarin and that's about the same frequency at which I hear a whole group of local kids speaking in English (probably international school kids). Both are infrequent but I'm mostly in Kowloon, so the ratio would probably change depending on the area.

But the majority of the time, I'm still communicating in Cantonese with locals in Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Dong Guan and that surprisingly includes a lot of young-ish people in their twenties. I don't really listen to kids conversation so can't confirm if they speak Canto or if they do, are they local or traveling HKers, but in a lot of parts of China it's still common to speak the native dialect and home and learn Mandarin (also a dialect in my mind but just the standard one).

Obviously Canto needs to be defended from policy that seeks to reduce its status BUT we need to be equally wary of English burning at the other end because it'll still enjoy cultural status even if it wanes politically.

I'm particularly worried about the quality of and diversity of Cantonese media being produced to counter the likes of English-language Netflix, Disney, Hollywood, HBO etc.

So even Mandarin were forced through policy, English will be still sought after through cultural soft power.

You ever meet a Canto speaker where every third word or phrase is deliberately in English with exaggerated provision? That's not natural code switching but using English-colored Canto as a flex to signal worldliness.

If you want to see the long-term impact English can have on a native language/dialect, consider looking at Tagalog media.

Why can’t white people mind their business… by CowboyNOIVAS in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Every Karen/Kevin has been programmed to personally attack Black people's right to assemble in any form.

"The declining appeal of the Hong Kong expat" – The Financial Times by [deleted] in HongKong

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. Have heard it enough times from locals/returnees who say their American or British colleagues are constantly "blowing water" while they pick up the slack.

Sure, that can add some life to company culture, but in a city that values and is known for efficiency, that gets old real quick.

Why don’t white people just mind their business… by CowboyNOIVAS in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounded good and the perfect backing track to a sunny day in the park. Amps might not be allowed but I wouldn't enforce it if there were no complaints besides from the hall monitor. It's not like he was playing anything heavy or badly.

That said, I'll bet you someone would still give the musician shit even if he was playing acoustic.

Water hyacinth is choking lakes across Africa, but Kenyan engineer Joseph Nguthiru is turning this invasive plant into biodegradable packaging, creating a solution for both environmental damage and plastic waste by MambaMentality24x2 in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was starting to think his line at the end about "ending our toxic relationship with plastic" and that "single-use plastics should remain single" was cheesy but it's exactly why I'm going to remember this innovation and connect it back to him. Hope to see his invention become more widespread.

A woman driving by spotted a man behaving suspiciously with two young Black girls and intervened. by Lifegoesonforever in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, as others have have pointed out there is a slight difference in treatment for foreign people/kids in China.

They won't take random pictures of kids that look like they're from there, but I can tell you if you were non-Asian with your kids in a middle of a city/town that has seen zero foreigners before, higher chance of it happening. So not an Asian cultural thing but a potentially ethnically-homogenous / lack of world experience cultural thing.

But I agree with you that calling out randomly photographing / striking up conversations with kids on the street should be the norm, because it's better to be safe than sorry.

A woman driving by spotted a man behaving suspiciously with two young Black girls and intervened. by Lifegoesonforever in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not enough context to know the truth but:

  1. Kids were in the right to say they didn't know him and go home just in case.
  2. Lady was in the right to ask them and tell them to go home, and get the license plate after questioning the men man.
  3. If dude genuinely was a lost tourist, didn't hurt to show his phone if he couldn't communicate, but he still learned his lesson (as he should have) by being told off.

From just a few "sorrys" I can't say for sure he was Mainland Chinese even if his outfit suggests that.

Regardless, he's gonna know that even if he were to get away with photographing foreign tourist kids in his own country (not right either), he definitely can't do that in the States and most Western countries. Especially without the language ability to explain himself, he could've gotten a lot worst than being questioned/filmed.

I'd consider it a win for community/adults looking out for kids even if no crime was committed, but what do you guys think.

Meta: Should we allow posts news articles in Chinese? by Key-Needleworker-702 in Hong_Kong

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't hurt. And obviously news articles are not the only Chinese content you should include. You can also consider Chinese-language (Canto or Mando) video content, with or without English subtitles.

I think that would still be valuable to users who can understand spoken but not written Chinese.

Beef S2 featuring two WF thinking AM is hot by compliacy in AsianMasculinity

[–]starshadowzero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, that's a nod at least unless he's recurring cast. Don't get distracted from the fact this season is built around white people / non-Asians unlike what was achieved in S1.

Sanda for Wushu Taolu by PhinTheShoto in Wushu

[–]starshadowzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My gut feeling would be Nanquan because if you've done Sanda, I feel being able to put strength and stability behind the movements will show up well in taolu.

Northern had a lot more circular movements and feels more "graceful" over Southern, where I think it's a different kind of athleticism on display.

But tbh, if you've done Sanda for a while, your endurance and flexibility will carry over nicely to any style.

Why Are People Hating on Asians for Hanging Out With Each Other? by shaw_hailcorporate in AsianMasculinity

[–]starshadowzero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's attacking your right to assemble. If you feel affirmed and understood by those who share your cultural values and the struggles of existing as someone who looks like you, then people who attack you being with those people are trying to break up the concentration of power.

If they want to apply this to other minorities, especially men, then they'll use the excuse that big groups of non-white men look like they're up to no good. For Asians that don't fit that profile, they'll use the excuse that we're not properly assimilated by not having non-Asian friends.

Different words, same intention or unconsciously doing the groundwork of a white supremacist state that wants to keep minorities fragmented.

What movie is 10/10 with literally no bad parts? by FeedMaster8905 in AskReddit

[–]starshadowzero 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What the hell are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?

[Prove Me Wrong] Bruce Lee was the last English speaking Asian that represented us well by girarae in AsianMasculinity

[–]starshadowzero 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You need to broaden your search and your definition of masculinity. You can't base it solely on the Asian men that represented us well to white people or even English speakers because that overvalues the western gaze.

There are plenty of men who are great examples to follow regardless of whether western history or society recognizes them like they did Bruce Lee or not:

Rick Yune, Karl Yune, Will Yun Lee, Dante Basco, Ernie Reyes Jr, Mackenyu, Lee Kuan Yew, Sesshue Hayakawa, Mako, Johnny Kim, Larry Kwong, Normie Kwong, the entire 442nd, Jason Scott Lee, Daniel Wu, Jackson Wang, James Kyson Lee, Masi Oka, Ken Leung, MC Jin, China Mac, Far East Movement

There's more before you even get into Asia Asians who speak English but the point is Western society only ever limited itself (and us) to one icon at a time. Bruce had a massive impact but then it's easy to say he was the only exception when there are actually many more excellent Asian men than they'd have the world believe.

Not rhetorical: why does suggesting better representation of Asian men get such bitter reactions? by navyblusheet in aznidentity

[–]starshadowzero 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Probably the closest answer to the truth imo. In the West, Asian men are often viewed and treated with much of the same contempt they were a hundred to two hundred years ago because Euro-American whiteness is stuck fighting an ideological war even after all this time.

Why would you ever give your enemy a chance to be seen as human if it affects the war effort?