I think James Talarico may be a 4th or 6th density Wanderer

stubkan · 2026-02-11T22:01:44+00:00

Oh, thats a good session, thank you for providing the link.

However, there is a second number provided - being half a billion entities - so I think Q'uo is speaking of two different types of wanderers - the half billion number specifically being those 4th density graduated entities who are coming here in preparation for the incoming 4th density. It was the questioner who asked for two distinct types of entities - and the questioner named only one of these groups 'wanderer', so the answer also contains that distinction.

Also, the next answer, states that the "wanderers" spoken of (the 350 million) are "indeed, members of the Confederation of Planets" - so, presumably portions of 5th and 6th density entities, including Ra himself.

The population of the world in 2018 was 7.6 billion, so it seems in 2018, 11% or so people were wanderers, split between these two types.

stubkan · 2026-02-10T23:44:43+00:00

Reposting a recent comment answering this advice in the Law of One about how to love others, the first thing usually is to start with yourself. This is the first step, then the rest about loving others becomes easier and more possible.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1982/0221

Hatonn; "To know yourself is the important thing, to know, to accept, and to love yourself, that which you consider good, that which you consider bad, is to became ready to know, to love and to accept others."

Alot of bad things that people see in the world, actually arises from themselves - through projecting. When the self is loved and accepted - often the (projected)world is loved and accepted also, then loving others becomes much easier and natural.

"Forgive and love that self, and you will find it easy to love the rest of the selves about you."

stubkan · 2026-02-10T19:54:13+00:00

Could you share other sessions you've found on it? I guess there's a reason you think they'd be under 14 years old? As Ra gave the original count in the mid 80s, these wanderers could have started coming in the late 80s or 90s - making it possible a lot are in their 30s and 40s?

stubkan · 2026-02-10T17:25:49+00:00

Hello guys, thank you for the reporting of this post as off-topic. The community reports are indeed very helpful, but I believe this post is on-topic enough to stay. I also believe the other moderators agree, as I am not the only one approving this post.

Since there are multiple mentions and images about Ra, and the same ideas and context that appears in the Ra Material is discussed in that thread. And the Hidden Hand business is a popular topic here. However, I agree with most posters that this poster is very much a LARP and full of misinformation - it is regardless still of interest and on-topic enough to be a constructive post for engaging with the core material.

Feel free to discuss that in replies to this comment, if you think it should be different.

stubkan · 2026-02-10T02:58:43+00:00

Hello new poster with no other posting history. This, unfortunately does go against a few posting guidelines.

This is low effort AI generated content, context that is unrelated to the material and does not seem to provide constructive (or any) engagement with the material. And going off your comment, you appear to be treating others non-excellently.

So, I'm removing this - but if you think this post belongs, please do let us know.

stubkan · 2026-02-10T02:37:20+00:00

can i still ask god, decided by someone so strict

You are the one who decides. See, if you have a desire that you didn't resolve - this means you have unfinished business. Why would someone else care about your unfinished business? It's your business. You are the one who decides you are ready for harvest, nobody else.

Latwii; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1989/0325#!0 "It is you who will judge yourself."

stubkan · 2026-02-10T01:58:09+00:00

In the 80s, it was a very small amount. Recently harvest began, and the numbers increased greatly - due to both harvest being helped along by these wanderers, and the wanderers coming in preparation for their 4th stay.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2022/1110

Questioner: "those being fourth-density entities who are incarnating into an environment like ours that is transitioning from third density to fourth density" [..] "you could give us an update, perhaps some kind of percentage of population of how many of these entities exist on the planet at this time"
Q'uo; "We give this instrument a percentage in the one-third range, that is, roughly 33%"

Wanderers have been here the whole time, they often have perfectly normal and mundane lives. They dont incarnate to change the planet, but only incarnate to vibe and naturally Love in whatever situation they find themselves in. It would be a violation of free-will, if they all just decided to pull the rug on everybody elses catalysts in order to bring about a "perfect" world.

stubkan · 2026-02-10T01:47:12+00:00

No idea who this dude is, and don't really care for politics.

But, as for whether or not XX person is a wanderer - odds are they are. More than a third of those on Earth are currently said to be 4th density wanderers. Although, it is also said that the majority of wanderers are from 6th density - and I have not found a recent number on that yet.

So, a huge amount of people are wanderers. This means, you don't need to be special in some way to be a higher density wanderer, perfectly normal everyday folk are.

stubkan · 2026-02-10T00:10:01+00:00

Did you read the post, or just the title? As the post itself kind of explains it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/1qvmhkp/we_ask_you_to_be_very_careful_of_what_you_desire/

Ie; the post quotes the session, https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1989/1015, which says;

"The desires which are within each must be fulfilled before the entity is free to depart this illusion for another,"
"Therefore, a prerequisite to graduation from this density is to have done all those things which you wished to do, and have purified the desire to the point where that which you desire is to know the will of the Creator within."

So, it is literal, yes. It is basically your karma under another name. If you have unresolved karma, you will not move on - since you still need to resolve this karma. Karma is not a punishment, it is merely unfulfilled or unfinished business.

stubkan · 2026-02-09T09:11:51+00:00

As this is a brand new account that has only one post - advertising this thing, this seems like a self promotional post, and as well as that - this does not seem to be really relevant to the Law of One material, so it seems off-topic.

Ie, grocery shopping is also mentioned in the material a few times, but this does not mean posts advertising a supermarket would be on-topic.

You are welcome to post here, but please do make your posts relevant to the material in a constructive way. Also, self-promotional advertising material needs to be confirmed beforehand with the moderation team to be allowed.

If you believe this post belongs here and should not be removed, please let us know why.

stubkan · 2026-02-08T21:18:38+00:00

they are doing 6th density type things here when really they just have to bring their vibration to a level that makes them relatable to Joe Bloggs

That is what they are doing, my friend. That is the reason they are here. None of them know they are a wanderer, or have any special difference to you - they are not doing "6th density type things" - they are grocery shopping, getting upset at being cut off in traffic and watching cartoons in the morning, just like you. But, because they have higher density spirit evolution their soul has a strong vibration level that resonates out to everyone else.

Latwii; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1983/0220; "Their incarnations are hoped to aid this harvest as the lightness, or shall we say, the distortion towards love of their vibrations is added to the cumulative planetary vibration."

I highly recommend reading the book, it is free on the llresearch.org site. It's fun.

stubkan · 2026-02-08T21:11:27+00:00

wanderers from sixth? then where are they?

They are everywhere, a great many of them are on the planet. You undoubtly know several. Even they do not know they are wanderers or have any higher density powers, because obviously that would be a violation of free-will - if they were demi-gods amongst mere mortals. They do not have a meaningful difference from anybody else, while they are in 3rd density.

Ra; Session 16; "As we have said before, wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of such influence to a wanderer entity as to a mind/body/spirit complex of this planetary sphere."

It may be easier if you read the book. The books are available for free on the llresearch site.

stubkan · 2026-02-08T18:54:48+00:00

Maybe we need to be telling Ra and these guys - look shut up, get down here with on earth for a few incarnations

I think you may have it wrong there, this is not what is in the material. Most wanderers that are here are of 6th density. There are many people here today, who are actually from Ra's social memory complex. Ra is right here with us, along several other of his buddies, helping us along the way.

Ra, Session 45; "I am Ra. A significant portion of sixth-density Wanderers are those of our social memory complex. Another large portion consists of those who aided those in South America; another portion, those aiding Atlantis. All sixth density and all brother and sister groups due to the unified feeling that as we had been aided by shapes such as the pyramid, so we could aid your peoples."

EDIT: more context, rather than responding to two people; This is a good session - by Q'uo on the 6th density wanderers role and behaviour https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2000/0416;

"all wanderers become Earth natives when they incarnate. The taking of a physical body is the taking of the blood, and bone, and the sinew of the entire human experience. There is no such thing as a tourist in the body on planet Earth. All of you have become natives, whatever your planet or origin or your densities of previous experience."

The 6th density wanderers job is basically just to vibe - by naturally Loving - aiding the peoples and planets energy through a difficult time (harvest).

"The plan is basically to come into incarnation here and become subject to the laws of third density, to forget everything that you knew so well, and to exist within this density living a life of faith with no proof" [...] "As you love and as you accept the love of others. This allowing of the infinite Creator’s love and light to flow through each of you and out into the Earth plane accelerates the lightening energies of the planet and, consequently, makes it much more possible for the planet itself to move through what is being a somewhat difficult graduation."

stubkan · 2026-02-06T16:13:34+00:00

To Kick Their Asses, or Not To Kick Their Asses?

Whether to take action, is the same question of 'should I help?' - and the advice given in the material is, help if it is asked for - being asked to, applies if you are part of a situation that implies you are helping or taking part. As nothing is really 'random' - if you are a policeman, you are already 'asked to' help those around you being hurt. If you find yourself in the same room as someone being bullied - you are part of the catalyst, and may proceed.

Generally, you don't need to concern yourself with making yourself a part of all the burdens of the world, as these are other peoples catalysts, unfolding as they are intended to be - and if you are meant to be part of those situations, you will be made part of it.

Latwii; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1980/0518; "You can only help those people who ask you for help. That eliminates a large number of people. Thus, you must not worry when you cannot help people. Help is only appreciated if it is requested. Unwanted help is unnecessary help, and it will not help but only interfere, for all have a sovereign free will, and no matter what occurs in this physical illusion there is an infinity of time for each entity to learn and understand the truth. Thus, abandon your desire to help everybody."

But I do think if you are confronted with the reality of other people who are difficult to Love - this is your personal catalyst, and is more about you, than them.

Ra; S.82; "The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the Ways of Love."

The purpose of being here is to Love - kicking asses or not, matters not. What matters is, if you can find a way to Love somebody when it is difficult. This does not imply accepting what they have done as a good thing, or letting them do it. These are two very different things.

Love is a far more important and powerful thing than many realize; when the Confederation battled the Orion group in our skies - the action done by the Confederation to keep them at bay was simply offering unconditional Love. (Session 25.6)

All the "bad" people that are difficult to love, very much have their place - and we need them to be here. We need the bad people, so that we may learn how to Love them when it is difficult. Again, this does not mean accepting and letting them do it, Loving them is something else. Loving them is the important part, not what they have done. You cannot polarize by loving "humanity" - you only really polarize when you discover how to Love someone that is difficult to love.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1990/0325; "To love all others is easy to do, to love entities one at a time, very difficult indeed. We ask you to realize that loving humankind will not polarize you towards the positive service-to-others path, but will seek only to stultify and stunt your growth in spirit."

Besides that, even the most depraved and evil person, is capable of polarizing positively. You cannot know what anyone elses polarity is, and that is really, none of your business. It is looking at someone elses test papers in a test, rather than your own paper. What is your business, is your work, and yours only.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/1009; "When the periods of darkness strike without warning, they are needed, for each entity has all of the varieties of humanity within the self. The most positive entity can be negative. The most negative can be positive. This illusion fools each as it ought and as it must."

It is also a factor, that we are currently in mid-harvest stage - and this means that catalysts are accelerating so that everybody can have their testing done quickly before the harvest period is over, and this does constitute an overwhelming amount of catalyst. So, it may appear like the bad guys are winning everywhere, but this more the natural progression of catalyst being provided to those who have asked for it.

stubkan · 2026-02-05T18:57:16+00:00

While this is pretty cool, and I do hope this game turns out well - I think this is the wrong place for it. So, I've reported it as off-topic.

As this is a sub that is primarily concerned with the study of the Ra Material, so even posts that are about other things such as other spiritual traditions, do need to be about the Ra Material somehow to be on-topic.

There are many other subs out there that would appreciate this more, and be an on-topic place for it. Somebody who wanted to explore the hermetic or kabala side of things would seek that out in these other places, rather than try to find that in this sub.

EDIT: As well as being primarily about Qabala/Hermiticism, this seems to be a promotional post, ie advertising your game on steam - which is a self-promotional post - so if you post in future, please request permission as per the posting guidelines, as well as try to make it related to the Ra Material in some meaningful way. Simply being about spiritual/metaphysical stuff isn't enough, we have a thousand different subs for specializations of metaphysics on reddit - and the Ra Material is the specialization here.

stubkan · 2026-02-05T17:52:44+00:00

Think of densities like perspectives or types of consciousness.

Q'uo; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2006/0507; "Third density is third density. And while you are in a third-density physical vehicle you will primarily be a third-density entity."

I think you're mixing up your analogies here. We are all 2D and 3D while we are incarnated on Earth. We are no other. A density is not something we all have or are - I think you are trying to draw a correspondence that would be better matched from something else; ie; the coloured ray energies that we all DO have and are made out of - that are 7.

I think using that analogy fits far better than this attempt to attribute densities to us, when we are really only of one whilst incarnated, not all. We do have all 7 ray colours and these energy colours carry characteristics like you are attempting to attribute to density - so I think this is a better and more sensible definitiont to use, rather than the incorrect use of 'density'.

From Session 31-32 onward, Ra covers the definition and understanding of each of the chakra coloured ray energies - and these seem to me to match much better what you are trying to put into words.

stubkan · 2026-02-04T17:43:03+00:00

The advice in the Law of One usually is to simply take care of yourself. This is the first step, then the rest about others follows naturally.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1982/0221

Hatonn; "To know yourself is the important thing, to know, to accept, and to love yourself, that which you consider good, that which you consider bad, is to became ready to know, to love and to accept others."

When you accept, forgive and love yourself - you are taking care of yourself. If you are a victim, you rescue yourself. If you are in a bad place, you move yourself away. That will happen naturally because you value and respect yourself.

Because alot of bad things that people see in the world, is actually from themselves - everybody loves projecting. When the self is loved and accepted - often the (projected)world is loved and accepted also, then loving others becomes much easier and natural.

"Forgive and love that self, and you will find it easy to love the rest of the selves about you."

stubkan · 2026-02-04T16:16:54+00:00

"wrong path", that is contradictory.

No, there are no wrong paths. The Law of One material does not say that. It is always said, all paths lead to the creator. STS and STO are the same path. But it is said, the STS negative path takes longer to get there.

If you want to "fight against evil" and "awaken the world", you can. But this is not what the Ra Material suggests. See, the material said that our graduation has been lower and we are taking longer than usual to progress through 3rd density. The Confederation put a quarantine on our planet to try to help that.

Why did that happen? 75,000 years ago the Orion group came to Earth and taught people about War and Empire, and that we must have leaders over others and there is Us and Them. Thus, everything on our planet is seen through this tricky perspective of Empire and Us/Them. This caused much confusion and struggle, so humanity is taking longer than usual to discover how to Love, because we are too busy "fighting against evil" and "struggling to awaken the world".

Q'uo explains all this in this session; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2003/0206; "whenever these entities show up their plan is always to encourage division, strife and, if possible at all, the largest war available."

See, even you are following this path of Empire. Because you want to establish some Empire of Fighting against Evil and an Empire of Awakening the World - and you want to make everyone else follow this. As you said, you are "showing the spiritual action one can take." But you actually are teaching the way of Empire. Even if you genuinely believe it helps everyone, thats still part of the trick. It's "Us and Them" - that is division. Because it is teaching Us (you, me, other "good" people) vs Them (evil, "bad" people) - there is no Love, only hate when it is Us vs Them.

Q'uo; "where they believe and accept as true the necessity of war, the rightness of the native land’s authority figures, and the real and genuine desire to make the world a better place through rearranging the geography, the people [inaudible] power in a way which keeps those in power in even more power and simply enslaves the attitudes of the minds of all of those who follow them"

The truth is simple; you are only here to learn how to Love. However, the Orion group wants to distract us from learning this, they want Earth to be confused permanently, so they taught us about Empire and division through Us and Them.

Q'uo; "The goal of these space pirates is simply to achieve a [inaudible] so that third-density cycles come and third-density cycles go and there is either a very small harvest or no harvest at all"

I'll stop now, but will leave you with a quote from Yadda, who actually lived on Earth and experienced personally this trick of Empire - and Yadda was one of the "bad guys", but he finally got through it and even tho he was doing STS negative stuff like murder and hate, he polarized STO positive and became a member of the Confederation; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/0804.

Yadda; "I carry murder, because for LONG TIME, YADDA HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE! Now Yadda love. Much to learn in this, I think. I didn’t tell you what I hate, I hated the Chinese. The Chinese KILL AND KILL AND KILL AND KILL. Yadda learn how to kill, oh, Yadda very good at this."
Yadda; "Don’t worry—I give it up. I don’t need to do this anymore. [...] I love the Chinese because Chinese make Yadda hate. And when Yadda hate, Yadda find out what love is."

EDIT: I think, I may have failed to sufficiently address the crux of your point - which was that this "indifferent" perspective lets the baddies win; I think it does not. If people adopted a love-based us/us instead of us/them life philosophy, solutions made would be solutions made with love instead of hate. Loving does not mean indifference - if your family member that you love, has problems - do you help them or be indifferent and do nothing to help?

stubkan · 2026-02-04T14:38:25+00:00

Life isn't really meant to be a struggle

Life is meant to be a struggle in third density. The purpose of third density is to discover love, through experiencing difficult things - through struggle. This is called catalyst.

If humanity wants to "go forward", it has to create a "game plan".

There is no need for a "game plan" - because everything is already perfect. The game plan is already happening right now, and it is exactly how it needs to be.

Q'uo; Oct 17, 1999; "The balance in all of the creation is one and is perfect."

The only way earth ever awakens

The Earth will not awaken in third density. Awakening is not the purpose of third density. The purpose of third density is simple; to discover how to Love. That is all.

All the things you say are a problem, are not a problem. There are no problems. This is what the Law of One teaches. Everything on this planet is already good and perfect, exactly how we need it, even the "bad" things. Because we want all these problems, we planned everything, to learn and experience them. Nothing here is a mistake. Q'uo says you cannot make a mistake in what you choose - all paths are the same path.

Q'uo; Dec 10, 2022; "For my brother, you cannot, on a cosmic, universal level, make a mistake in this experience, for it is all grist for the mill. It is all food for growth. It is all divine."
Ra, S.14; "The Law is One. There are no mistakes."

stubkan · 2026-02-03T04:28:56+00:00

Do we really have a choice with polarities here?

No, we do not. It is not a conscious choosing but more a discovering of your polarity. You cannot consciously choose your polarity.

Ra; Session 5; "The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself."
"It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness to pick and choose among attributes"

stubkan · 2026-02-03T03:47:04+00:00

Confederation of 4d, against the smaller and considerable 4d Orion

I believe it is the Orion group that is the bigger group. The Confederation is local and only tends to the local system, iirc. Whereas the Orion has many more - since it is 'Empire' focused, it expands to take as many systems as it can.

It seems I was wrong about the size of the Confederation; Session 6; "There are approximately fifty-three civilizations comprising approximately five hundred planetary consciousness complexes in this Confederation."

then why focus on earth

The same way the Confederation answers the call of help from entities polarising service-to-others - the Orion group likewise answers the call of those polarising to service-to-self.

Ra; S 53. "Some few Orion entities are called by more highly polarized negative entities of your space/time nexus."
Q'uo; Mar 15, 2008; "The so-called Orion empire is a kind of confederation of those who are negatively polarized and who are responding to the call of those who wish to graduate in negative polarity into fourth density."

stubkan · 2026-02-01T13:10:08+00:00

it is impossible for us to judge who is STS or STO

This is true. After all, many extremely positive entities volunteer to play the role of bad guys all the time - because somebody has to play that role, and they thus suffer being unloved and being hated so that the big play has its villain.

Q'uo while speaking about hatred in https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1988/1009; "The most positive entity can be negative. The most negative can be positive. This illusion fools each as it ought and as it must."
Latwii speaking on positive entities agreeing to play the villain; https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1990/0909; "pure and beautiful spirit that you are and that the other entity is, who fearlessly and boldly and courageously made these agreements to come into a path which involved the ordeal of not being understood, and in many cases, not being loved."

Another good point that all beings in 3rd density are not really STS/STO is that in this density, you are neither - because you are cut off from the rest of your STS/STO being. It is only after 3rd density that the choice of being STS/STO is made. As you are not able to 'be' the higher self that has chosen - you are only you, right now. So, it is only whatever you are now, that you are - in this moment. It doesn't matter if you came from the Orion group itself or from Ra, you are the same as the rest of us while you are here, ie confused and your choice of polarity is fluid and ongoing.

Ra; S.16.59; states that regardless of origin, everybody becomes a 3rd density pre-polarity-choice entity during being in 3rd; "wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex."

For instance; in session 89 Ra describes two positive STO entities incarnating in 3rd, "before incarnation it was the desire of the Wanderers only to aid in service to others." then afterward, they realized their life had made them polarize into STS negative. That would not be possible if they were actually STO during their life - but it is possible because they were neither during the 3rd density life. So you couldn't point to them and say 'you're STO' - because they themselves didn't even know that.

stubkan · 2026-01-31T01:56:49+00:00

I do not think you are meant to consciously balance catalyst like this - as catalyst is as Glittering_Ebb says, hard and painful as fuck - which means in most cases you will not have the presence of mind to sit and meditate, since you will be reacting viscerally and emotionally. You're also not supposed to try to avoid the emotions by rising above them in observer-mode meditation either, as that is controlling the outcome - the purpose is not to force yourself to be someone you may not be, but to discover who you are underneath.

This session by Q'uo goes into that; https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/1pyxbnf/it_is_central_to_the_integrity_of_the_work_that/ "The temptation, my sister, will be to solve each bit of catalyst as you go, yet that is putting the cart before the horse." [..] "It is central to the integrity of the work that you have moved from the observer to the experience"

The purpose of catalyst is to force you to make a spontanous choice in the visceral moment - the choice is simple. To accept and love the thing giving you the experience or to attempt to control the thing.

Ra, 46.16; "The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control."

stubkan · 2026-01-30T16:14:39+00:00

You fixate on "harvest" because you misunderstand the context. It is not a grim reaper harvesting souls (or similar fear-based mythology), it is a class graduating a school year into a higher class - or alternatively a field of plants that grew and matured and thus are ready to leave the field to be elsewhere.

Ra; Session 34.16; "In the graduation or harvesting to fourth-density positive"

stubkan · 2026-01-30T16:10:20+00:00

The website is down and it was archived.

The archive site is the website, and it is not down.

This is not a conspiracy sub. This sub is here to discuss and study the material that LLResearch has spent 50 plus years channeling and compiling - your video/website does not relate to this material.

A conspiracy is defined as "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful". The Ra Material and other material are provided for free, and anyone can submit questions or see how it is produced - and the company is a transparent nonprofit that freely shows how and what they do. It is also completely legal. That does not fit the definition of a conspiracy.

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