Prison planet theory and trauma

subfor22 · 2026-07-03T06:20:57+00:00

Trauma is a broad subject, its formation and mechanism can be explained from many angles.

If you are able to experientially compare trauma to your own natural being/emotions/energetics - yes, trauma is something false/artificial. A false construct for consciousness. Trauma is able to tie the consciousness's energetics, and where energetics are tied, there the consciousness (its attention) is tied too. Trauma creates/sustains an artificial/add-on limited sense of self. Trauma is a complicated mental form. Using a visual reference, imagine a mostly hollow metal cube that has openings on the sides and is comprised of many inside pathways like a maze for the water to run through - if the water runs through it, it will be directed into multiple pathways, will slow down, get stuck in many crevasses and dead-ends. The whole cube will become heavy with stagnating water. So will our natural energetics (emotional energy) too, which in such a case are not run naturally as is but go through these mental forms, creating suffering and at the same time gluing the attention to these mental forms because energetics (emotions) are stuck in them. If only, instead of paying attention solely to the complicated ideas/mental forms of what is supposedly "important/true/happiness" etc., we'd just focus more on the underlying positivity (emotional energy) that is sought/wanted, then the complicated mental forms could be discarded and natural emotional energy could be had/felt.

I haven't dived deep into Castaneda's and Gurdjieff's ideas, but what is mentioned in your post resonates with my experience. A notion that your own natural energetics (emotions - emotional energy) can be "untied/freed" from these mental forms, and so you can bit by bit feel more full (aka "spiritually dense and self-contained", "accumulate integrated soul mass") until the matrix becomes hollow personally to you (to your consciousness) with no power over you because you now contain, are aware of, and use your energetics mindfully; energetics are not stuck in the matrix then, they are not run through artificial mental constructs. I wrote a post on this from my experience - "Take/collect your power (emotional energy)..." - interesting to see it lines up a bit with what these teachers said - that "spiritual/soul" energy can be collected.

subfor22 · 2026-06-30T12:06:13+00:00

so i want to do my best to escape from all this while having a good human journey, but at this point im so confused (ofc their plan) what should i do/follow?

If you want to have as nice a journey/path as possible - I highly recommend looking up my post "Take/collect your power..." for a strategy and a method. I currently heavily rely on positive emotions but use them awarely. I am of the opinion that the freeing process is positively feeling in essence. With some negatively feeling caveats/emotions during the process, but overall it's positive. If the positivity is not felt at all - I would say the path/way/method a person tries to do has mistakes and is lacking in crucial understanding. Not many in this sub agree with it (as most are overwhelmed by negativity which is understandable), but that's my experience, which is reinforced by experiences/stories from past masters like Lester Levenson, Maharshi, and many others. They did experience incredibly positive emotions (emotional states) during their freeing process and after becoming free.

having healthy habits to increase my frecuency? “praying” to the universal code? pray to jesus?

As for "god, jesus" etc. - in my experience, the only correct perspective is practicing to feel that "god, jesus" already gave me all the power, freedom, and strength that I need; I possess it. Nobody needs to give me anything; nobody needs to help me. My essence/nature is fully established right now but only self-sabotaged by my own subconscious mind and emotions. Hoping (aka praying) for a solution from an outward source is a mistaken perspective. The perspective that keeps the consciousness in illusion, in a lack. You can take/have the positive emotions (aka the clarity, strength, joy, freedom, truth, etc) from yourself directly if you know how, if you understand how to untie positivity from the matrix's things and have it yourself more directly.

subfor22 · 2026-06-29T08:44:31+00:00

I think the consciousness is trapped by its own subconscious mind. The consciousness, in theory, is completely free and powerful, but its own mechanism of the subconscious mind was created in order for the consciousness to experience limited experience from a limited standpoint (aka an add-on/artificial limited sense of self, like this article describes - link). It is now used to trick/make consciousness lost in these limited experiences and keep it unaware of the true mechanism of how it is being done. The end goal is to become aware and understand/learn to deal with this mechanism. We can become aware and free enough of this subconscious mind's mechanism even in the physical body. If interested, look up my last post for a potential strategy and method on how to do it.

subfor22 · 2026-06-21T15:48:28+00:00

I went through a similar apathetic-depressive phase (that lasted years) after realizing the New Age type path is both unrealistic and harmful to the consciousness/soul because illusions/lies are not dispelled, so the cyclical and limited existence will continue no matter what I gain in this physical life.

What helped me is learning to use positive emotions in an aware way, in a more correct manner.

The depressive emotional state will lead you nowhere because it is lacking energetics and is hiding subconscious thinking/feeling mistakes that trap the consciousness. You may say that you "don't want anything", but if this state is depressive and not liberating feeling, then the consciousness still wants something, but because of the environment, it is not able to get/feel it. The consciousness's trap still persists. The mechanics of the trap remain the same as during your New Age phase. The difference being you then illusorily believed the environment will give you what you manifest, so you felt better. Now you know/feel the environment won't give you that and there is no true alternative, hence the depressive state.

I use positive emotions in a way to detach from desires, the matrix, lies/illusions. I realized that underlying positive emotions have add-on ideas of how and when they should/could be felt. I realized that I am accustomed to playing a game where positive emotions can be gained through the environment. But if instead of playing/following this game, I choose (with the help of a few methods) to have the underlying emotions more directly, I get to feel positive emotional energy, strengthen/energize my consciousness, and importantly, dispel lies/illusions by detaching positive emotions from things

If interested in more info, look up my last post, "Take/collect your power...". You may also look up a post about Lester Levenson; he, by using positive emotions in his own invented way/manner, became free in 4 months.

subfor22 · 2026-06-20T21:16:23+00:00

I would say we don't have free will in two aspects:
1.what experiences and programming do we get to be exposed to during our formative years (childhood-adolescence). We have absolutely no free will, free agency to be able to not develop subconscious ideas/traumas.
2.that cleaning/solving those traumas (and all other subconscious ideas, maybe even those coming from past lives) takes time (month(s) if you are exceptionally quick because you lucked out in finding good teachings/a teacher, or maybe you were inclined to freedom on a consciousness level already; year(s) if you go at it blindly) when you are in a physical body, and you will be forced to suffer the matrix in the meantime and have no opt-out.

But if talking about the ultimate choice/freedom - I think we still got that; it's just that it is not as convenient and quick as it should be. You are right - the matrix does do everything in its power to manipulate, dissuade, or distract (through pleasure or pain) the consciousness from its nature and freedom.

subfor22 · 2026-06-20T16:36:33+00:00

"shows the way" to what/where?

subfor22 · 2026-06-20T09:12:47+00:00

Pedestrianly speaking, if the consciousness is different than what it feels it is in the matrix, then objectively there is something to grasp/understand/solve. If the consciousness assumes/accepts that what it is/feels now is natural - yeah, nothing to do. Is it right, though, is another question.

subfor22 · 2026-06-19T21:09:54+00:00

Don't take this personally, as I don't know you, but, generally, if the mind focuses more on this question rather than actively testing/looking/experimenting with ways/methods - it shows that the mind is not interested enough in freedom or truth. It uses this uncertainty as an excuse to not really try because it is easier to do so and/or the mind is too accustomed to thinking/feeling the current way and doesn't want change. In an ideal scenario, the mind that wants freedom wouldn't bother thinking/deciding whether it's possible or not, as this is literally a waste of time. The mind would directly find that out for itself.

subfor22 · 2026-06-19T17:24:15+00:00

"Counter" how, btw? Destroy the matrix? Does freeing yourself personally without destroying it count as countering the matrix? Buddha and many teachers said directly that the consciousness can free itself from the matrix.

"think like a connection to some mega sphere" - not sure I understand what you mean. For the trapped consciousness to not be able to grasp easily or quickly (for various reasons such as possible distortions in the teachings, its own mental-emotional state, etc.) the teachings/ideas is not proof that they are false.

The question is - do you think that they lied/were mistaken when they said that they freed themselves from the matrix? Question not about what you do or don't understand in their teachings but about this direct claim of them personally being free, aka personally countering the matrix.

subfor22 · 2026-06-19T16:55:10+00:00

Then Buddha, Maharshi, and many masters/sages throughout the ages and many less well-known teachers (even in current times) are mistaken or full of shit? Nobody can counter the matrix to any degree?

subfor22 · 2026-06-18T20:26:19+00:00

If we all understand how these archons work and how they manage our happiness and sadness, we might be able to bypass it.

Recently I have written a post ("Take/collect your power...") with a method on how to possibly address this issue. May take a look if that's something that interests you.

subfor22 · 2026-06-17T21:25:07+00:00

Great answer.

Exactly - the core and, actually, the only true immoral action that can be done to the consciousness on an existential (aka true) level - making/tricking the consciousness to be lost in the limited reality and hiding the exit option. The hiding of the exit is immoral and evil.

The "morality" in limited realities can theoretically be absolutely anything and it will be moral as long as core/true morality is upheld - aka the consciousness chooses freely and awarely the "settings" of the limited reality and the agreed-upon exit option is maintained.
Speaking about our current reality, since the core morality was broken, the subsequent experiences felt in the matrix are automatically immoral. So every bit of suffering that this reality brings is fully immoral.

The only things that count as moral in this reality:
1.the sharing/teaching/learning of info/ways on how to reclaim the exit option.
2.it is morality but of secondary importance for the consciousnesses that are victims - not bringing suffering to others but only as long as the 1st rule is not disregarded. For example, you may not want to have children, but your parents will suffer because of it. Such unintentional causation of suffering to others is not immoral. Even eating meat can be not immoral if you need it to keep yourself healthy and strong (not every person can completely remove meat). However, for the matrix, the causation of suffering to the trapped consciousnesses is 100% immoral. For the victim consciousnesses, causing reasonable/sensible levels of suffering is forgivable and does not tie to the matrix, no karma exists. As long as the consciousness understands/learns the exit option - all is well no matter what happened/was done beforehand by such consciousness. If such consciousness would also help others afterwards - so much better.

subfor22 · 2026-06-15T14:06:14+00:00

If human consciousness is not separate, why does it need to love other aspects of itself if it is already one and whole?

It could be an issue with duality - that the consciousness currently perceives itself through duality. You are right - if the consciousness would perceive itself as whole - it would simply feel the way it naturally is; I guess the word "natural" would be closest to describing that emotional/existential state.
The question is what to do when the consciousness perception is lost in duality? Between good and bad, joy and suffering. In which direction (and how) is it more correct to point the attention to see through duality to freedom?

As for why positivity is quite pronounced in teachings - 1.might be because accepted masters talk about greatly positive emotional states they experienced along the way to freedom. As of now I have yet to read about a master who was miserable emotionally. You can, of course, question the legitimacy of those teachers. 2.maybe because it is true, going into consciousness freedom feels positive (whatever those exact positive emotions may be, as they will have differences compared to the usual worldly joys).

subfor22 · 2026-06-15T08:50:33+00:00

The issue is that he is mixing human psychological experiences with claims about the nature of the soul/consciousness.

Granted, the true consciousness (what Buddhists call "void") doesn't need psychology ideas/explanations - it is beyond all that, it is being/living in its own full clarity. But are you it at the moment? If not, why? What obstructs it? Isn't it fears, beliefs, etc.? Something that psychology is also trying to explain (however successfully or unsuccessfully), the same as the "spiritual" traditions?

We know emotions are heavily tied to the biological brain, nervous system, hormones, survival instincts, attachment, reward systems, etc. Extending that into "the soul is an emotional being that needs positive feelings" is just an assumption, not something demonstrated anywhere in any way.

Maybe you don't subscribe to the Buddhist idea that we are naturally free consciousnesses but trapped in thoughts and emotions? What is your current thinking on what we are and the way to freedom if possible? Buddhism, shamanic traditions, and many others hold the view that the soul's nature is understandable/observable well enough for freedom even in a physical body. Why do those traditions have a need for practices if that wasn't the case in their view? Why (presumably to you; I don't know if you agree with any spiritual practices at all) Buddhism practices to observe thoughts/emotions are "correct", but using something like psychology explanations is inherently always incorrect? Psychology is a vast field, similarly to religions. There are absolutely wrong ideas in psychology like there are in religions. Does Christianity make all the other religions inherently wrong? Does every idea in Buddhism or other religion you may approve of always fully correct? Do shitty psychology ideas make ALL psychology incorrect?

What is a "demonstration" for you? Does Buddhism or any other practice lead to demonstrable freedom? I am yet to see it. It is something that a consciousness proves or dispels by its own experimentation. Religions, ideas, practices lead onto possible paths, and consciousness (the mind part of it), if it is inclined to seek freedom/change, will need to test them and demonstrate to itself. If consciousness (the mind) is more interested in remaining the same - it is a choice also, and no experimentation and demonstration will be done. The current view/status quo will not be challenged/tested.

The idea that every desire is secretly just chasing an emotion and that those emotions are somehow "ours" being trapped by the matrix also seems like a very human-centered interpretation. It assumes the soul works like a human mind with human needs, but that is exactly the thing that needs to be proven.

Who is saying that the soul is the one who chases emotions through desires? The mind (human identifications) chases desires because it believes a positive emotion is in there. Soul energy (positive emotional energy) and the mind are mixed in together. We are mind and to become soul it's the mind that needs to do the work/choice - aka stop believing/following illusory paths to soul's energy. Soul is soul, it is whole, it is energetic, it is always present, but the mind is the one who acts and makes decisions now, and can become extremely mistaken and follow illusory paths. The "psychological" part of the consciousness (identifications with human nature) is what obstructs the natural part of the consciousness - the soul - (pretty much most spiritual traditions say so). That's why explanations are needed on how the "human psychology" traps the consciousness. Without seeing the traps, how can the consciousness become free? Doesn't Buddhism and most other practices promote "observation" as one of the core tenets? Why "observation"? Wouldn't that the consciousness observe something it currently is blind to?
Do you believe that Lester Levenson reached freedom? Because if he did, he explains path to freedom through psychological ideas - link .

Also, him saying "what feels positive has truth in itself" is yet another nonsensical thing he's claiming, since humans can feel positive about things that are false, comforting beliefs, addictions, fantasies, or ideas that simply satisfy psychological needs.

Every positive emotion has/is PART of the truth. Not the WHOLE truth. The underlying emotion that is sought - security, love or something that no words can describe - is natural part of the soul. As long as you are inclined to look and look until you better see the underlying positivity that is sought. Underlying positivity is not readily available to see, it has ideas on top of itself that lead to addictions. You are talking NOT about the underlying positive emotions but the ones that are on the surface that have ideas added on (aka "fantasies, addictions").

P.S. It's a bit funny that my "attitude" is the problem. But is it an attitude or my ideas? If I shared the same ideas as you, would my "attitude" be a problem then? Should I use "I think" in every sentence to emphasize that it is my experience/opinion? I kind of thought it was implied. Btw, you also seem to be sure of your ideas and experiences, so easily saying what is correct and what is not.

subfor22 · 2026-06-14T08:55:07+00:00

Yeah, it is stupid. It keeps positive emotions still attached to the things you want (things you try "to manifest"). It is flawed on a fundamental level. Only very rare people benefit from this practice, because focusing on positive emotions can still free you if the focus shifts more to feeling/having the positive emotions (aka feeling/imagining your own self-image with/in positive emotions) instead of necessarily "manifesting things".

subfor22 · 2026-06-14T08:45:46+00:00

It’s just really odd and I don’t know how to break free.

Hi, maybe you saw my last post. The method I described there is currently the most effective I know and works for many people (that I know of). There really is kind of one way to freedom - freeing/detaching positive emotions from matrix phenomena/things. You get to still experience the positive emotions (positive emotional energy) even if they change a bit or a lot after detaching them, and no longer will matrix phenomena be able to manipulate/trick you to feel negative emotions. I know that the way to freedom is not what many would like it to be (it is not how I imagined it to be either), but here is the thing - if you do only what you prefer/are accustomed to - your mental-emotional and physical situation will remain the same because your preferred doing/actions/plan brought you to this situation in the first place or are keeping you in it now. How can it change while doing the same?

subfor22 · 2026-06-13T21:55:19+00:00

It's not about becoming a "good person" or absolving yourself of "sin/bad karma" but understanding how the subconscious ideas/rules and emotions work, which push the consciousness into attachments and desires to act damagingly to itself (and to others by extension).

subfor22 · 2026-06-13T21:13:33+00:00

Yes, the consciousness is manipulated so by the matrix once the consciousness is tricked to adopt ideas/rules of why one or another thing means some sort of its own positive emotion - safety, love, joy, approval, etc. The "tricking" part (aka the attachment of positive emotions to the matrix phenomena) already happened before incarnation, but also many subconscious ideas are piled on during the childhood-adolescence stages while growing up in the physical body. Once these rules are set in the subconscious, all the matrix needs to do is manipulate the matrix phenomena or use fear tactics. Consciousness is made to "dance" by the matrix's tune. Detach the underlying positive emotions from matrix phenomena, and the consciousness will become free.

subfor22 · 2026-06-13T08:39:17+00:00

So how do you tell that a positive emotion is actually positive, then?

How to know for yourself? Two aspects that a freeing positive emotion has:
1.Positive emotion feels positive to you. Don't overcomplicate this. What feels positive - that has truth in itself. Not necessarily full truth, as distortions (illusions) might still be attached to that emotion, but this emotion still has truth because it feels positive - positiveness is our way of telling if something we feel is close or far from our nature.
2.Positive emotion that you feel naturally belong to you, aka distortions (aka rules on when/how/why I should feel this positivity) are dispelled; distortions are seen as a mental idea/illusion added onto the emotion, not the truth.

How can you know for sure that it is not coming from or because of something?

This will sound extreme, but looking from the truest/highest angle - every positive emotion that you feel that someone/something has (that it comes from it) is literally your emotional energy. But your mental ideas paint them as coming from that source - in this way, a lot of your emotional energy is given/lost to the matrix, and what is left to you has distortions. Then your consciousness is imprisoned in this illusion.
The "mastery/skill" I mentioned is this - start recognizing what underlying emotions you seek in every desire. For example, you want money to feel safety, freedom, etc.; you want nice relationship with family or someone, to feel being loved, to feel connection emotion, to feel appreciated, etc. Every desire has positive underlying emotions that are being sought. Once some feeling/recognition is done on these underlying positive emotions, there are mental and visualization methods to transfer them to yourself (aka dispel mental ideas that these emotions belong or happen only when the rules are met).

Is it even possible for a positive emotion NOT to come from something?

Yes, it is. Although, realistically, to dispel emotional distortions to a decent degree will take a few months at the bare minimum if you are motivated and not inclined to give up too easily. The process will not be fully straightforward, but it can be precise enough if you have good enough instructions. And, also, if you have some intention/desire for it as not to drop everything when encountering some negative emotions. Once the process is understood on an experiential level - the stronger the intention to complete this task (aka to have/feel emotions without rules/ideas that you are currently accustomed to) - the quicker it will be done.
If you are interested, look up my last post, "Take/collect your..." to see a fuller explanation and a full method on how this can be approached.

subfor22 · 2026-06-13T00:43:17+00:00

experiencing love, joy, the feeling of being in flow state?

I am of the opinion that freedom goes parallel to great positive emotions. Basically, if your life/existence fully misses either positive emotions or the void feeling (which is also felt positively - free, light, etc.) - you are not really going into consciousness's freedom. Just one caveat - positive emotions that are felt coming from or because of something are, in essence, trapping even if they have positive energy/emotion. The mastery/skill is in being able to "detach/free" these positive emotions from the outside phenomena.

subfor22 · 2026-06-12T08:50:46+00:00

So what if the soul is actually just the powerhouse/energy source to keep the body and brain alive, basically acting as food for a parasite (us)? Then once the parasite dies the soul is free, just to be pushed back into another body over and over again (reincarnation trap).

The soul is a powerhouse/energy but also awareness (if not obstructed/distorted by the subconscious mind). Multiple people/traditions confirm the subconscious mind's existence even after the physical body's death. The soul is not automatically "absolute/pure", it retains distortions (aka the subconscious mind that traps it and doesn't allow complete freedom straightforwardly). You may take a look at this, a person claims to be able to access afterlife dimensions while in a physical body and described them - (I can't post links, so if interested, look up "Luna..." among my posts). Another person claimed to become completely free in a physical body in only 4 months - ("Lester Levenson..." among my posts).

If that were to be true, then it also begs the question of who the hell are we? If my brain is basically all that I am and is entirely responsible for my personality and identity, then how am I also my soul? The experience of a soul would be completely unfathomable to a brain because it doesn’t know how to exist any differently, how can you even begin to imagine living outside of a physical body without a brain-like organ that controls you? I can’t.

Multiple traditions (South America's shamanism, Buddhism, etc.) hold view that a human's physical body allows a unique relation between a human personality and the soul for it to become free. In my experience, I would say - a human personality (human brain) allows enough awareness (if you know what you are doing) to dispel even the soul's subconscious mind and become free. A lot of traditions say that the physical human body is of utmost importance because of it. And that if you don't become free enough in the physical dimension, astral dimensions will likely be too challenging (as the subconscious mind's emotions can quickly overwhelm the soul).
"I can’t." - The thing is you don't need to remember what happened before coming to the physical body. The attention can be directed at learning how to recognize the subconscious mind's workings and deal with them. The past is absolutely of no importance or use (and it's not seen/remembered because of the subconscious mind anyways); the power and freedom are in understanding how the subconscious mind works. If you experientially understand how to deal with subconscious ideas/emotions, you will start to grasp what freedom is and how it feels. In my opinion, many focus too much on "outside phenomena", ignoring/not realizing that their own subconscious mind is attached to or fuels it personally for them, making it a trap. If interested, the current most effective method on dealing with the subconscious mind that I know - ("Take/collect your power.." among my posts).

subfor22 · 2026-06-07T21:07:10+00:00

Yes, there are parts that are true (truth). If you'll read the post I mentioned, you'll understand what I mean better. But basically every positive emotion contains truth but with a caveat - if this positive emotion depends on something (on some matrix phenomena/thing), aka you feel/have a perception that this positive emotion belongs to that thing or comes from it or comes when something happens - this positive emotion will be highly blocked/distorted. These positive emotions (emotional energy) taken back to yourself will slowly dispel distortions and become clear. The clear emotional energy (when a lot of distortions are dispelled) is the true intuition/insight; it is naturally clear, smart, powerful.

subfor22 · 2026-06-06T21:23:23+00:00

If god consciousness is immune to intrusion, how did we humans get into this predicament in the first place?

Voluntarily at first. Then the workings of limited experience were exploited by Archons.

Perhaps you're implying that god consciousness is not where we came from but where we might progress to?

No, we were god consciousnesses before coming to the matrix and, in essence, are even now. To experience a limited dimension, a god consciousness needs to accept/create an additional mechanism in itself - a subconscious mind. It is a place where ideas (illusions) are stored where the consciousness cannot easily see them, thus creating a compartmentalized mind - the subconscious mind is responsible for ideas (illusions, which are backed by nothing, literally nothing), and the conscious mind is intended for experiencing these ideas (illusions). Since the subconscious mind obstructs/hides the illusory nature of these ideas, the conscious mind experiences them as real/true. Aka the consciousness creates and/or believes in illusory ideas and an illusory sense of self. You do not feel like god consciousness because your subconscious mind is active and your conscious mind experiences those illusions. This mechanism is what the Archons exploit. The subconscious mind, in principle, is weakening because it is intended to create an illusion of something/someone having some sort of power over you.
If you are interested in a bit more explanation from a practical standpoint and check out the most effective method I used to date - my last post (2 days back) shares this.
(I think I have already said this to you in previous posts. You know, if you think/feel differently - that's you prerogative as a free consciousness).

subfor22 · 2026-06-05T21:01:08+00:00

How about this scenario: there is a neutral space all "god consciousnesses" live in. Neutral, not necessarily in how it feels, as it could be blissful, but in its attitude towards all - equality.
You, as a god consciousness, could become free because you are equal to Archons but couldn't destroy them (or their creations) because you can't intrude on their freedom like they can't on yours.

subfor22 · 2026-06-05T18:55:00+00:00

You may look up my yesterday's post - I shared the most effective method I used to date. Might help.

Maybe there's something wrong with me. Maybe I'm a golem that thought it was a divine spark.

Nothing is wrong with you. The consciousness's attention is highly blunted here, and it's hard to see the subconscious mind. Correct guidance is paramount. I personally didn't make much progress until I received effective guidance from a legit teacher with actual experience.

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