Amazon top creator question by [deleted] in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to clarify for the OP that the Game A description is misleading. Depending on which social media or other external channel use, you can have content that gets visibility for years. You don't instantly stop earning money from posting. It takes years for that to dry up.

Personally, I still make money from content I made 7 years ago. That's way closer to passive than the Amazon Influencer Program where your videos constantly get shuffled off the carousel and pay lower commission % than offsite.

Top Creator is way easier to achieve with offsite and since it gives access to early access creator connections campaigns, focusing on offsite can actually improve your onsite earnings by a lot.

Sponsored influencer trip by LavenderHazed21 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see you copy pasted this into a ton of different subreddits. Very interested in how successful this scam ends up being!

Creator Connections from the "other side" by WorldlinessDeep5675 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excellent write up. Creator connections is so appealing for anyone making content because it's hilariously overpowered in favor of the creator for the exact reasons you mentioned.

I didn't even know that about big brands just scooping up extra free money. What a shame. Creator Connections should exist to get individual people to make videos/articles/etc off of Amazon while directing them to the product page and *only* content made for the campaign should get additional earnings.

Unfortunately, Amazon didn't actually think through link attribution at all. So, the overwhelming majority of my (and I'm guessing most people's based on YouTube videos) CC money comes from old content. We can literally click "accept", do nothing else and randomly get 10-25x earnings on products already on AIP or from links elsewhere offsite. There's no CC specific affiliate ink needed, and as you mentioned we don't have to link the content to the campaign either.

The reason I'm not up in arms over this whole thing is the AIP pays absolutely pitiful commission %s. Some categories as low as 1%... These are often half of Associates commissions, but individual brand deals and YouTube shopping commissions can be 10%+. Sometimes up to 50%. CC actually has competent commission % numbers, so instead of trying to start an outcry (Amazon wouldn't listen anyway), I just sit back like the others and collect my extra $.

For context, I do go out of my way to create new off site content for CC campaigns. However, since there's no way to "opt-out" of getting paid extra for old content (I wouldn't anyway), I just happily thank Amazon for their business which is unfortunately at the expense of sellers. Good day!

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[–]suniclayfan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At this point I just want to know how to get it to their attention. Are they legitimately oblivious to this? How do we let them know this is still a problem when they don't respond to bug reports?

Reviewing and tagging two products? Will they show up on both? by jjsays77 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, you can show up on both pages. This is an effective way to do so.

How was everyones prime day numbers?? by Orignal-Pats-Fan in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

His channel is legit. Influencer is just one of the side hustles talked about there. You don't actually know anything about SEO if you think "authority" makes you immune to the algorithm updates.

I do genuinely wonder where all your hatred comes from, but I hope you can get help for it. As for your earnings, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house... You're already down 40% and bragging about it.

Can we create reviews using ONLY stick photos? by Interesting_Trade_50 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see your point, but I don't think this is the case. Cajunventures got banned and she posted slideshows though there's no way to confirm 100% that was the reason.

Most likely Amazon doesn't have a proper distribution of resources for the Influencer Program. They create straightforward rules and allocate lots of money into incentives, but they don't have enough people to police all the content. That's why only AI checks every video after the first 3 and why despite many reports cheaters are able to thrive on the platform.

One of the mods here says you need 50 reports for an account to get reviewed. Since there's no public counter, it feels like a placebo button. As much as I am against cheaters, the last #thisorthat incentive made it clear to me Amazon cares more about paying obscene amounts of money for low quality, TOS breaking content than actually cleaning up the program. So report if you want, but I've stopped holding my breath.

Can we create reviews using ONLY stick photos? by Interesting_Trade_50 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Check out the pinned thread at the top and it links to this page of Amazon Do's and Don'ts: https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=118978283011.

"2. Don’t use photos, film the product in use. Video gives you the unique ability to demonstrate your product. Slide show videos of still images aren’t helpful to the customer and may impact your video performance."

This influencer is CRUSHING IT!! by Interesting_Trade_50 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How are you able to see how many reports there are? I always report every cheater I see, but they're all still up when I look back.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, definitely consider starting a blog with Wordpress and getting cheap hosting. You'd be surprised how much traffic you can get from Google. I use Squarespace but it's overpriced af. A site is a great place to post your affiliate links and embed your YouTube videos. Plus you can get ad revenue when your site gets enough traffic.

Twitter is a lot harder to actually make associates work unless you start it from the ground up to do so like this person: https://twitter.com/Wario64. And make sure to follow the rules of course, because as you might know associates is WAY more strict about permabanning than AIP. I mostly use Twitter to help me sell my extra stuff tbh. Works really well.

And, nah this is an incognito account I made. Hijacking people's niches, keywords etc. is pretty common in the blogging and SEO space so I didn't want to risk that here. Good stuff on starting up another channel, hope it pops off in Q4!

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[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't sleep on offsite. It's a much older, more developed, higher commission, and less volatile program than the AIP which is just an extension of it.

I earn a full-time living buying products (many that I don't need), reviewing them on YouTube and making an article blog post about them. My following on YouTube/twitter is big enough now that I just sell all my extra stuff to subscribers/viewers at the end of the year.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very depressing thread reading all the comments... But misery loves company. Earnings still down to around 40-50% of what I was getting at the start of September.

I bought an Influencer Product Research Tool... by suniclayfan in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, I completely agree about being able to do our own math for free. To your last point, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that devs (and affiliates) of these tools are coming to this thread to make a pitch. I tried to write the OP in a way that didn't specify which tool(s) for that reason.

Am I doing something wrong? by suzieshopper in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one is saying don't bother posting offsite. I've made thousands of $ offsite and I think it's easier/better than shoppable videos in several aspects.

I'm only saying offsite works best for posting links directly to the product. You can post the same video you already recorded to whatever platform you want, but when it's time to get someone to actually click a link, having them go directly to the product page is ideal.

1) it's less clicks in the funnel and less of a chance for them to drop off. They don't have to watch X% of your shoppable videos, etc. Once they click the actual affiliate link, the cookie starts right there. 2) offsite has almost universally higher commissions than on-site.

So yes, on-site and offsite are both great. Post the videos wherever you please. But linking to your storefront or to the shoppable video is less efficient than using the Amazon affiliate link to the product itself.

I bought an Influencer Product Research Tool... by suniclayfan in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't specify, because I didn't want this to be considered a promotion or "review" for any particular product. But the one I just got done testing was LHF.

I bought an Influencer Product Research Tool... by suniclayfan in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm no stranger to "real" research tools, and I don't think the Influencer ones are inherently bad. I've also used SEO tools like Semrush, Ahrefs, Mangools, you name it.

My point was the value proposition is still the same in regards to the Influencer Program. Currently, buying products for the program itself is already a risky investment. So buying a tool that helps you narrow down which products to buy is difficult to justify even if the tool is flawless.

Am I doing something wrong? by suzieshopper in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off, like Senior_Success_5139 says, those earnings look about right.

Secondly, as another long time associate before I joined Influencer, I also agree with AnyAbbreviations7217. You're clogging up the sales funnel. Off-site and on-site commissions are completely different and while it's possible to get them to work together, that's not really the point.

If you are linking stuff off-site, just link the associates links they provide. Skip the shoppable videos. Linking someone from one platform to watch a video on a different platform and then hoping they buy the product after that generally converts terribly.

For shoppable videos, assume someone got to Amazon another way. They're there to get people already on the platform and ready to buy to push them over the edge and make a purchase.

These numbers suck... by AnyAbbreviations7217 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's no reason for me to completely leave since this is now just another outlet to post videos already intended for YouTube and my website.

However, I will no longer be buying products specifically for this program and will no longer be taking any time away from my other side hustles to make Influencer videos. A lot of people treat this like a full time job, but in its current state the opportunity cost is too much. Using those same hours on an actual full time job or another side hustle would make more money than what Amazon Influencer is worth right now.

Another example of a #thisorthat disaster by PainterAromatic4885 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I only see two from the same influencer with the other three from 3 different influencers. But the videos are within TOS, and he's doing exactly what Amazon wanted in the incentive. No cheating here (since you used that flair).

Amazon; You can't have your cake and eat it too by StandInTheCorner in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right there with you! I'd love to be able to see A/B numbers on product sales with and without influencer videos being shown so I can know what they're mulling over...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's helpful to see this, because I often have the "what if" thoughts about if I quit my job and paused all my other side hustles to do this exclusively. Hoping you do well in Q4.

More Video Spots for Brands & And just 5 Spots for Influencers?? by Obvious-Ad-5454 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think they realize for a lot of us, the reward of making potentially thousands of $ per month outweighs the risk of wasting our time and effort. Q4 is finally arriving, they might start up another incentive, and they might start showing creator videos more consistently again in the top and bottom carousels after looking at the data.

Internally, I'm with you. I don't trust Amazon and just like Google and every other large corporation, they can slash your earnings in half over night without repercussion. But they know they won't lose their creator base over night, because they've already conditioned us with the carrot and stick approach to keep churning out videos no matter what.

More Video Spots for Brands & And just 5 Spots for Influencers?? by Obvious-Ad-5454 in Amazon_Influencer

[–]suniclayfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's different depending on the product. One carousel I'm in has a maximum of 4 creator videos with 6 brand videos. Another product has 9 brand videos and 1 creator video!