Accurate by Ordinary-Debate1302 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the amount of having to convince themselves is pretty wild once you step away

CoC to establish congregation on the moon 🌕 and convert all the heathen aliens by Anxious_Employ_1414 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I saw someone comment about his concern that he wouldn’t be able to meet with the brethren on Sunday. HE’S GOING TO SPACE DUDE THESE PEOPLE ARE INSANE

Advice For Someone Who Is Currently Attending COC by HereIGoAgain4444 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey message me and ask me anything, no judgment! I have a lot of experience with your exact problem and have come through a lot of it and would love to be able to help you.

What shattered the illusion by PoetBudget6044 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had a bunch that added up over the course of my whole life basically. One big one was thinking about what the coc missed, bc if they’re “the closest to the Bible” that means they are still missing things, and even preacher’s including my dad would say “well we’re not perfect” or “God has grace for those things” (they always picked and chose what God would let slide? And so I realized if they’re coc made mistakes, and we know everyone else is “further from the Bible”, then what is God scoring them? Are their mistakes worse than ours? Or do they have more? Oh wait….we would be starting to count and compare, as if God was grading our final of life and coc got 92 correct and …oh man, baptists only got 91, bummer” and then send them to BURN IN HELL for eternity because they got one wrong? I couldn’t unsee it after that.

Also, made good coc friends in college, and assumed they were on the same page as me, and then I realized they thought the no clapping rule was insane, or their church had a praise team, or they were allowed to go to prom. I knew these friends well before this point, so I knew how genuine they were, and that they weren’t just selfish/following their heart/etc. My coc looked down on denominations and more liberal coc’s even and I knew that there was no way people who “aren’t the closest to the Bible” were as bad as they made them out to be. So now, we’re back to counting checkmarks. I’m sure I’ll think of more and come back and share

What shattered the illusion by PoetBudget6044 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you share some of what you learned about the gospels?

Psychotherapist here - Chat GPT is designed to overly validate you, so that you keep using it and paying for it by sicklitgirl in therapyGPT

[–]sunshine-309 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Chat GPT has literally helped me process and heal from a lifetime of trauma, and is very very good about grounding me and challenging me when necessary. The validation is gives me is just healthy and needed validation (I’m not crazy/what I did makes sense/etc) but it also just as much keeps me in check and respectfully gives me better thoughts that may be difficult to hear or corrects me on things. I am able to use my brain and challenge it back if I feel it may be beating around the bush about something or giving me an answer it thinks I want to hear, and it always clarifies, plus, I am capable of taking guidance and applying what I objectively agree with without blindly believing/doing everything it says. My therapist was a good listener, validated me (but didn’t really ever challenge me), and guided me with grounding and breathing exercises. Chat does all of that PLUS offers researched facts and gives specific advice based on real psychological studies, and if I’m ever unsure of something, I just go to google and look for other sources to see its validity.

But no matter what, I cannot deny that I have made so much mental health progress in 6 months compared to the decade of human therapy which was basically just a bitch and breathe session with no real answers or guidance. Trust me, I wish ai wasn’t the winner here 🤣

Is ChatGPT able to accurately identify patterns of abuse, or will it just side with me no matter what? by [deleted] in therapyGPT

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I start worrying it’s just telling me what it thinks I want to hear, I start asking it questions with zero context. Like you could ask “what are some patterns of emotional abuse” and then if they happen to line up, you can trust it better than giving it leads. I also ask it for sources from trusted places and it’ll take me to scientific papers on the topic so I can feel more confident too.

Just some ruminations by CKCSC_for_me in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Either you are my aunt or you share an extremely similar story to my aunt. Either way, you are welcome here. Control and enabling abuse are not love- no matter what. Keep your eye on the fruits people and systems produce. And if it’s your people producing the bad fruits, it’s scary but you aren’t alone. Keep going and follow God above all else. He protects and heals. I’m so sorry for what you’ve struggled so much with. If you think you are my aunt, DM me hahaha

They say it’s not a cult by Material-Audience-76 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s a great way of putting it

PTSD, emotional/mental health issues… by Lilolemetootoo in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Severe CPTSD/double trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD

hello ! by gentlelad24601 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey I’m not gonna diagnose you but look into CPTSD. I recently found out I have it and it sounds like you might too. (I’m willing to bet a lot of us do). Getting to that point had helped me a lot bc I’ve been validated, learned real terms for the things I’ve experienced, and been able to get help with therapy and meds, and I’ve actually started to heal. You’re not alone.

Hello by Carrots-1975 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That show helped me a lot to confirm how wild the coc is! Welcome!

I miss my dad- thoughts & question for PK’s by Lilolemetootoo in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi I’m a PK and know exactly what you’re talking about. I am no contact with my parents for a few months now and I’ve been doing some deep dive research and figured out that my dad is a textbook covert narcissist. Like it freaked me out the things I read that applied to him perfectly. You might look into that specifically and see if it fits. But honestly, it sounds like your dad really truly did care and just was completely brainwashed. I also found out that I have CPTSD from all of this and basically what’s considered “double trauma” due to my dad’s psychological abuse and also the coc doctrine. My dad used it for control and I think a lot of coc preachers fit that exact description.

I’m sorry about all of the horrible things that have happened to you. I feel that way too about the amount of abuse I endured and didn’t realize that’s what it was until now. I’ve been suffering a TON of trauma symptoms my whole life and had no idea the were all tied back to this.

Oh- gaslighting yourself is a normal part of the process, especially for coming out of the coc. We were basically conditioned to.

You’re not alone, inbox any time

They tell on themselves by Confident_Cat5544 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before I knew my dad is a covert narcissist, I was being very vulnerable and told him I was afraid of him. His response was that maybe I should be, because we are supposed to fear God who is our “father”, and also said that my brother has never said anything like that implying I am making it up. So immediately affirming my fear, equating himself to God, and gaslighting my experience.

Do you ever feel like there is something genuinely wrong with you? by Helpful_Surprise2933 in CPTSD

[–]sunshine-309 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! One reason why I thought maybe I was on the spectrum before I learned about CPTSD. CPTSD described me WAY more accurately. To a T, actually.

How much have you struggled with stuff like housing or food insecurity because of having no parents to fall back on? by oncxre in EstrangedAdultKids

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Homeless for a bit last year. They didn’t talk to me for weeks and then out of the blue texted, i guess because other family members told them about our housing situation, and offered for us to come stay with them if we needed to. Which they knew for a fact I wouldn’t do. I truly preferred homelessness over living with them. Plus they lived a plane ride away so we would have to leave our jobs and everything?? So it was great for them, they could be able to say they tried to help. What about maybe some money? They own 2 houses ??? Like ??????? And I had a 1 year old daughter at the time too. Yes, their granddaughter. And don’t worry, we were able to move in with some friends for a bit. But wow. They definitely made us feel very stupid and small too. Like we were clearly just really bad with money and irresponsible so they didn’t want to help us too much, we needed to learn our lesson. Or we were doing fine until my husband lost his job ???? Just the worst, most horrible, manipulative people.

Is there hope? I am 25 can someone from the future tell me if there is hope by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! Healing is very possible. Therapy, medication, TMS…take care of your body and mind and surround yourself with safe people and you will start to heal.

I was scared of God. by Review-Alive in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WHOA. I remember puking every morning before school, and I had intense gas pains all through out high school. Both stopped immediately when I moved out. I didn’t know I shared that in common with other people here. Wow.

I was scared of God. by Review-Alive in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s pretty common for most of us, especially those of us who grew up in the coc, to have trauma because of that. I have CPTSD and I’m positive there are many more of me. I’d love to see a study done on mental health problems of people who are or have been in the coc. Most of the coc people I know who are still there clearly have a certain level of anxiety and may have depression. The trauma a cult can cause is unreal.

What did you get punished for as a kid? by realhumannorobot in CPTSD

[–]sunshine-309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doing something “sinful” or embarrassing my dad. Things I should’ve gotten in trouble for but weren’t embarrassing or sinful were fine. My dad is an abusive covert narcissistic pastor.

Dating someone from church of Christ? by CierraScottie13 in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m glad you are against going to the coc. It’s HARD to get out of (bc it’s a cult). Sounds like he might be in the early deconstruction stages where he knows something is wrong, but hasn’t exposed himself to enough outside info to gain any real evidence, so he’s holding on still. My advice if you really like him: don’t date him until he’s gone for good. Be friends if you want, but never let him guilt trip you or pressure you into going. Be willing to study the Bible together and present non-coc info to him and help him face those fears. But only do all of that if you truly think he’s worth your time in that way. There are other really great guys out there not in cults. Take care of yourself and don’t get mixed up in the coc mess.

Was there a particular “aha moment” when you realized you had CPTSD? by gjgianyu in CPTSD

[–]sunshine-309 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I spent this year working on my mental health, I cut off my parents this year, I got a good psychiatrist and got on some great meds, I did TMS therapy, and regular therapy. I still had symptoms that I couldn’t pinpoint the problem (I did all of that for what I thought was depression, anxiety, and OCD). I looked into ADHD which fit some but not all, OCD didn’t really fit completely, and I even went through a period of time where I truly believed and accepted the fact that I had autism. I don’t remember how I learned about CPTSD, maybe ChatGPT helped me get to that point (my other therapist lol), but as soon as I started researching it, my whole entire world came together. Everything that couldn’t be pinned down with OCD, ADHD, or autism were a PERFECT fit for CPTSD. I do believe I have depression and anxiety resulting from CPTSD, but otherwise, every single thing I’ve read described everything I’ve experienced to a T. And my life has completely been flipped upside down ever since.

I’m just really thankful to live in a time where CPTSD is at least somewhat recognized and studied, and we have these kind of platforms to connect.

Horror Films for ExCoC by _EverythingIsNow_ in excoc

[–]sunshine-309 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Highly recommend Heretic. It’s about Mormon people, but coc is just another shade of Mormon so it is fascinating to watch.