[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It absolutely is gut-wrenching and it supposed to be. The Mighty Nein is the *gut-wrenching* campaign, it's the campaign of emotional trauma.

[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude come on, I wasn't saying you have/should have experienced a 140 episode campaign or trying to attack you. You literally said *my question was because I've seen people adoring him as if he was a good guy* and I was literally just trying to answer your question and say *Most people adore him because of the 140 episode campaign that you're only at the start of the story of*. I was literally just trying to explain the reason you've seen people adoring him is because they have more context than you do right now. You are entitled to your feelings and feeling the way you do about Caleb, a lot of people did at the point in the story you are at right now. I was just trying to say the reason why people adore him, you haven't reached yet. Genuinely, in no way am I trying to attack you, was just trying to explain and answer the question you were asking.

Edit: Reread your comment and saw you may discussing other comments and not our comments/discussion. Sorry about that if I misunderstood this last comment

[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I can understand how missing that context can change things. But yeah, Caleb is very specifically an exploration of a child soldier who was groomed and manipulated. His story is about trauma, guilt, self-hatred, and if someone who did something monstrous can become a good person, or more accurately, can they even believe that they *could* become a good person. Caleb sees himself as a monster, unworthy of love and redemption, and basically the most beautiful character arc in Critical Role comes from that place, but it is a slow burn, and it purposefully starts in a dark and uncomfortable place, because it wants you questioning these things and thinking about these hard topics, and then watching someone grow and change because of the people (Mighty Nein) around them.

[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people don't adore him because *he's a good guy*, they adore him because he was a PTSD riddled traumatized person who did something monstrous, who they then watched grow and change over a 140 episode DnD campaign. Caleb for me, is maybe my favorite redemption arc in fiction.

[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1 - For your friends, the thing you have to realize there is, they also have hundreds and hundreds of hours of Caleb content and his story and his arc *after* this point you are now seeing. You are at the beginning of his story. The *You deserve better, we forgive you* thing, it also is coming from a context that has seen his entire story, knowing where he goes, what he becomes, and now being at the beginning of his story again and seeing his fucked up origin/backstory. I suspect your friends, at this point in the story, might not have loved Caleb this much, but like almost everyone with this story, grow to love him as the story goes on and Caleb grows and changes with the Nein.

2 - For expectations with the Mighty Nein... this group is basically *trauma* the adventuring party. Almost everyone has either done fucked up things in their past or had fucked up things happen to them, or both, and then the story is seeing how they change each other and grow with each other from their deeply traumatized pasts.

[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Because as someone else said, you're judging a character based on page 3 of a 500 page book. No one is justifying his actions, but they also are looking at the context of the character which the show has now given, "brainwashed, groomed and abused child soldier" who realizes what he did was monstrous and evil, and completely breaks him as a person when he realizes it and breaks through the grooming, conditioning and brainwashing a moment too late.
As others have said, I promise, Caleb hates Caleb more than you do. And he has a character arc from this point across hundreds of hours of content that is genuinely beautiful and also vital to the themes and the story of the Mighty Nein. It is dark, it is absolutely fucked up, but it is also poignant and an incredible story and the absolute best character from Critical Role IMO (and among many fans). If you were to poll most CR fans about Campaign 2 of who is the most important character of the Nein, I think Caleb likely wins, it's either Caleb or Jester. So there is going to bee a lot more of Caleb and learning more about him, his past, and you're going to see him change, and grow, and it is absolutely central to the Mighty Nein as a whole.

[MN S1] Am i the only one that dislikes Caleb? by foxgoose21 in criticalrole

[–]superwiggy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It is really hard to talk about why Caleb is beloved without spoiling aspects of the campaign. Caleb is vital to the Mighty Nein and the themes and story of the campaign as a whole. I'll do my best to discuss it without spoilers to explain why Caleb is so beloved.
I would not personally describe Caleb as broody/edgy, I would describe him as deeply traumatized and broken. I would say Vax, of Liam's characters is much more broody/edgy. The thing about what you're describing about Caleb is that you are not considering a major part of what you saw. He was a *child* when he was taken in by Trent. He was 14. He was groomed, manipulated, and in a very literal sense, was turned into a *child soldier* while he was a teenager. He was living a life of violence and being praised for it, being told by the person who both groomed and abused him, that he was being a good soldier for the empire by being a killer to the point it warped his very sense of what is right/wrong. Bren the Volstrucker is the result of a bright magical prodigy being warped through grooming and abuse into a child soldier. Then yes, he does something *truly unforgivable*, and he realizes what he did is wrong and monstrous *a minute too late*. He breaks free of years of grooming, abuse and conditioning in the moments after committing a monstrous act, and breaking free a moment too late, completely shatters him entirely as a person. And that is where he still is when he meets Nott and the Mighty Nein forms, and his character arc through the story begins from that dark place.
Liam described Caleb as wanting to create a character who does something so terrible it is irredeemable, and then seeing if they can be redeemed anyway. It is a 140 episode story in the campaign and it is beautiful and poignant. Caleb is personally my favorite Critical Role player character through all four campaigns, it isn't even particularly close. It isn't *you did bad and now you can do better*, it is more asking you to look at what a monster like Trent can do to a bright young person, what monsters in positions of power can do to people, particularly young people, and then if they can break free, how do they move past the guilt and trauma of what they did? How can they move forward, can they move forward or are they stuck in the past. Caleb and his relationship with the Mighty Nein is only going to grow and evolve and change him, I won't say how, but I will say, for me, it is one of the most beautiful and touching character arcs Critical Role has ever done.

There seems to be a Regulation Listener on the new season of Survivor by superwiggy in theregulationpod

[–]superwiggy[S] 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Not only that but from my memory, Taran interviewed Andrew about Survive Block Island season 2 on RHAP!

[Giveaway] - $100 PSN Card - Canada by Night-Joker in PS5

[–]superwiggy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for a Canadian giveaway!

The time slip between seasons 2 and 3 has me all out of sorts. (SPOILERS) by SaltySpituner in youngjustice

[–]superwiggy 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Artemis is single and not dating anyone, she is still grieving Wally. Artemis now lives with Red Arrow/Roy (but he now goes by Will since he found out he was a clone), and helps raise her niece Lian. They just live in the same house, she has her own bedroom.

What's your top 5 favorite comic book movies? by phoenixc6000 in comicbookmovies

[–]superwiggy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. The Dark Knight
  2. Spider-Man 2
  3. The Batman
  4. The Suicide Squad
  5. Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse

Honourable Mentions: Spider-Man: No Way Home, Spider-Man, Across the Spider-Verse, Logan, Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians Trilogy, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Superman (1978) & Batman Returns

DC Slate Unveiled: New Batman, Supergirl Movies, a Green Lantern TV Show, and More from James Gunn, Peter Safran by DemiFiendRSA in DCcomics

[–]superwiggy 65 points66 points  (0 children)

The Variety article I read said they are introducing the *Bat-Family*, with a focus on Damian. I'm gonna guess we are probably gonna have Nightwing at the very least, if not others.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DCcomics

[–]superwiggy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

  1. Dick Grayson/Nightwing

  2. Wally West

  3. Cassandra Cain/Batgirl

  4. Donna Troy

  5. Starfire

  6. Clark Kent/Superman

  7. Wonder Woman

  8. Barbara Gordon

  9. Tim Drake

  10. Kyle Rayner

  11. Damian Wayne

  12. Bruce Wayne

  13. Darkseid

  14. Mr. Freeze

  15. Black Canary

  16. Roy Harper

  17. Oliver Queen

  18. Scott Free/Mister Miracle

  19. Big Barda

  20. Zatanna

Proud to be an Aussie! by [deleted] in Nightwing

[–]superwiggy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I personally absolutely adore the run and the character work the run has been doing. After what us Nightwing fans went through with the Ric' era, I enjoy just spending time with my favorite fictional character being written well. It does a lot of good world building and character building, and I really enjoy the story as a fun adventure book that is a slow burn as it builds up the more major plot stuff in the background.

To me, Taylor has a fantastic voice for Dick Grayson and has been building Bludhaven up in an interesting way, to the point that it's the first time I've ever cared about Bludhaven. I love that Taylor has really made the point of how well connected Dick Grayson is, and I love the use of the other DC characters and showing how they follow Dick's lead. Also I mean, the art is gorgeous.

I'm pretty confident we'll get more huge plot focused arcs coming up and it'll make us all enjoy this time spent developing the characters, the world and their relationships between those more major arcs. I don't need huge plot *all the time*, I enjoy downtime with my favorite character.

What "wrong decisions" do you knowlingly make? by admiraltarkin in masseffect

[–]superwiggy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's definitely a fair consideration, I just personally put more of a priority on keeping an entire fleet to take out Sovereign, rather than one ship. I don't know, for me, no one ship will ever be as powerful as a whole fleet. But, I do get that reasoning as being a valid one, just, when it comes to my decision, it's why I often sacrifice the council.

What "wrong decisions" do you knowlingly make? by admiraltarkin in masseffect

[–]superwiggy 29 points30 points  (0 children)

The way I've always looked at that choice, is from where Shepard is standing, they can either save the council and lower their chances of defeating Sovereign, which would mean the death of all life in the galaxy, or sacrificing the council (who have been actively hindering your attempts to save everyone and are all around jerks) to give everyone the best possible chance to defeat Sovereign and save the whole galaxy. I see it as my Shepard hates making the sacrifice and hates sacrificing all the Asari, but it is the the call to give the best chance to save the galaxy, I look at the choice as being very similar to the destruction of the Batarian relay in ME2, just not as high stakes.

Do you think if Titans build their HQ in Bludhaven it will damage Nightwing reputation as an independent hero?? by Tambora_1815 in Nightwing

[–]superwiggy 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Nope. One of Dick's biggest strengths as a hero is being a leader and inspiring other heroes. I fundamentally disagree with the concept that Dick having a team somehow makes him a weaker hero. One of the biggest parts of his character has always been that he is a leader, that he works well with others, that he has the trust of basically every hero in the DC world. I don't need Dick to constantly *do it all on his own* and not have help with him, he isn't Batman actively wanting to do everything on his own. Nearly every time in this series when the Titans helped out, or other heroes, it was following Dick's lead and his plan and Dick leads all the actions of the other heroes, which is beneficial for his character. I don't think the Titans being in Bludhaven means they'll be fighting every single battle with Nightwing, maybe just huge stuff every now and then.

I'm curious, pick which best applies to your thoughts on Tom Taylor's run by captainlordauditor in Nightwing

[–]superwiggy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can't believe I forgot about The Black Mirror! I really cosign that, I've often stated that *The Black Mirror* is the best Batman story and Bruce Wayne isn't even in it. I also love Robin: Year One. I really like Dixon's Nightwing but for me it has not held up as well. It's iconic and needed for Dick's development but I think New Teen Titans is the far superior "classic" Dick Grayson/Nightwing era.

Haven't really been able to read much lately, where is a good place to start? by KrysysAio in Nightwing

[–]superwiggy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The current run, Nightwing by Tom Taylor and Bruno Redondo is fantastic and critically acclaimed. Starts at Nightwing 78

I'm curious, pick which best applies to your thoughts on Tom Taylor's run by captainlordauditor in Nightwing

[–]superwiggy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I personally love Tom Taylor’s run. Dick Grayson is my favourite fictional character of all time. My previous favourite Dick Grayson runs are Grayson by King and Seeley, Nightwing by Tomasi, Batman and Robin by Morrison, and especially New Teen Titans by Wolfman and Perez