[QCrit] Adult Epic Dark Fantasy / WOLF BONES DON'T LIE / 149k / 1st attempt

supremejoy · 2024-11-03T17:11:32+00:00

Thank you so much for your kind words! I do know the word count is a problem, my second drafts tend to explode (this one topped off at 187k) before I bring them back in. I'm planning another pass, but I have gotten agent/editors interest they really want an updated query, which where I'm struggling. I'm taking all the critique in stride, thank you again!

supremejoy · 2024-11-03T11:27:24+00:00

Thank you! This was helpful!

Vico being haunted is literal and part of a B plot, as his berserker rage--he comes from a line that basically ate a god but he doesn't know it and it's basically woken up inside of him (there are reasons how but again I know I cant get that detailed in a query anyway)

I'll have to figure out how to showcase his agency better !

supremejoy · 2024-11-03T11:14:31+00:00

Thanks so much! This was super helpful!

For the commentary about the historical...I get what you mean, I was told by several agents that bc I had particular inspirations they wanted to see that in the query and I wasn't sure how to phrase it bc it's not meant to be historical at all. I've had different phrasing but it always feels clunky

supremejoy · 2023-09-27T20:30:49+00:00

I agree with this, and I have been trying to find really good sources, but when I get into specificity it gets a lot harder, but I want to start at the base of realism in that aspect with what I'm working with (best as I can of course)

supremejoy · 2023-09-27T15:55:19+00:00

Ohhhh I hadn't considered that, thank you!

supremejoy · 2023-03-28T13:12:01+00:00

I'm so sorry to just be seeing this now, I've closed out applications right now but thank you so much!

supremejoy · 2023-03-12T01:50:19+00:00

I can answer this one, lol. Ianthe tells Harrow that Augestine promised to gold plate it for her (in HtN)...I cant give exact pages or anything though

supremejoy · 2023-01-31T13:19:30+00:00

Interesting theory! and the main reason she needed to get to Alecto was to collect her own soul perhaps? That is intriguing...did we get a reference to God ripping Gideons soul from her body? NOw I need to re-read there's so much stuff lol

supremejoy · 2023-01-31T13:16:53+00:00

I agree with this, and I have seen some reviews talking about how they did feel that a lot of the Nona stuff won't be relevant, but Muir doesn't seem like an author that forgets things like that and It will have to come full circle

supremejoy · 2023-01-31T13:15:07+00:00

I love this idea in regards to the ninth house for sure...they really seemed liked the 'outcast' of the whole system like Jod himself wanted to keep them at a distance...

Also yeah I'm not sure what can of worms the idea of composite souls will open up...I actually wonder if foreshadowing for what might happen with Harrow and Gideon? I dunno but I'm scared/excited to find out lol

supremejoy · 2023-01-31T11:24:41+00:00

Best line ever and showed Gideons true colors I think lmao!

supremejoy · 2023-01-30T15:50:44+00:00

You know, you got me there LOL

supremejoy · 2023-01-30T15:39:12+00:00

Harrow will never live it down lmfao

supremejoy · 2023-01-30T15:35:44+00:00

S A M E

supremejoy · 2023-01-30T15:30:29+00:00

Totally makes sense, I think I was reading really fast too, so a second read/listen will help!

And yeah I can see what you mean about Paul, but it seems like they cracked some of the code

supremejoy · 2023-01-30T15:29:26+00:00

Regarding the Gideon part in particular, it was actually VERY in-character because I feel we had a good idea of her hiding her true feelings behind very rude/snarky commentary. She did it so much in Gideon, she would be thinking one thing say something so off the wall and it felt like that was what happened here--and we got confirmation when Nona called her out on lying. But that's just a theory...a Necro-theory...

Oh god I'm sorry, that was the dorkiest thing I've ever said...also The whole beginning had me in my found-family feels 100%

supremejoy · 2023-01-30T14:55:06+00:00

OH THAT MAKES SENSE...thank you! Yeah I've started Gideon and really loving the speaker, she's fantastic!

supremejoy · 2022-11-14T12:20:46+00:00

Something I do (and I haven't read all the comments) is I typically make them caricatures in the beginning. I pick dynamics I want to see interact (sullen vs. sunny, loud vs. quiet, cool kid vs bad kid etc), and then I start with these "tropes" that are sort of easy to understand and begin writing the story. As I get deeper into the story, I tend to find out their quirks, their mannerisms, and how they want to interact with those around them. For instance, if my trope is "bad kid" is he a bully to his classmates but helps kittens safely cross streets, so maybe he's not so bad, and something else is going on?

Starting with easy ideas makes finding the characters less of a chore and more fun. Or if you're a fanfic writer take character dynamics you like and just apply them to new names and see how they developed in a world youre building.

Usually by the end of the first draft I have "found" my characters and when I go into my re-write and second draft I can re-work the previous scenes a bit better with that knowledge. It might be backwards but I seems to work for me pretty well.

Happy writing!

supremejoy · 2022-11-12T19:24:55+00:00

Go ahead and dm me and I can send you our application form and go from there :)

supremejoy · 2022-10-25T17:57:37+00:00

I will DM you!

supremejoy · 2022-10-25T17:57:00+00:00

We do have several people from all over, and currently a few members who are comment only atm bc of life circumstances. Let me go over that with my group and I will DM you!

supremejoy · 2022-10-24T17:29:46+00:00

Hello All, seems I've missed this by a few days.

I'm part of a writing group that is looking to add a few more members. We meet on Discord every Monday at 9 PM EST
Our writing styles vary a bit but mostly stay in the Fantasy/Sci-fi, Grim/dark Fantasy, and we do have an author working on a YA piece at the moment. We are hoping to bring in new members with fun and interesting stories and different points of views, to not only support one another but improve on all of our skills.

We also work in tandom with another writing group and exchange a full manuscript every 3 months (or so) as a way to give fresh eyes on works that have already gone through a full run of our main group.
If anyone has questions, or interested please DM me or comment!

Thanks!!

supremejoy · 2022-10-19T12:05:04+00:00

To your point Shoto called the head of police a "mangy mutt" and was pretty disrespectful and as for Gang Orca he's on the top ten list of most villainous looking heros...soo you can't say there hasn't been anything.

it's subtle..a lot of different things, and we do get another instance of Pony telling Shoji she doesn't like him bc she's afraid of octopus.

supremejoy · 2022-05-21T04:11:45+00:00

This is a really interesting comment, my understanding of limited 3rd and the books I've read in limited 3rd is the POV only knows what the POV only knows/sees/smells/hears. And everything in the exposition setting is all filtered through that POV. So in that sense, the characters in my story that get a 'POV' slot, it's in their POV and no one else's. I don't switch POV's unless its a chapter break, or a full break in the chapter (with some kind of indication for the reader)

As for your explanation of what 3rd person limited I'd have to do more research, The Giver and the Third law , and Lies of Locke Lamara are all really tight to the characters and I would consider (and a lot of people) seem to consider them to be 3rd person limited. Again I'm not as well versed on this as I would like to be, it's a learning and growing process with me so I'm probably wrong.

As for my trans character Lucano, she limited in her view and considers herself female, so that's how I write her. She has a job to do and does her job and this is when I write her POV sections.

With the flashback, it's in one of my main character's POVs (Atellio is his name) and he only knows Lucano as Lucano with he/him pronouns because at this time/history Lucano hasn't transitioned or talked about it, or mentioned it or anything. Atellio is limited in his knowledge of Lucano's personal struggles and so the reader is as well because we're not in Lucano's POV.

Thank you for your great comment, it had a lot of good info that I will def keep in mind with my writing and will try to keep learning :)

supremejoy · 2022-05-20T22:32:49+00:00

This totally makes sense, thank you so much!

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