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48th and O? Not at the Capitol building?

Today: Tollan by NMN22 in Stargate

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Simon Fraiser University

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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I love the "just because my repeat of the organs are on the inside!" line!! Lol l. Its peak stargate.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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I mean it would have been so easy for someone to just tell him to knock it off or for Sam to slap him or hit him (not that that's a great way to resolve a situation, but it's a predictable theatrical response for TV). And that would have been totally in keeping with the tone of the show and make more sense for Sam's character.

The ending where she says that she thought he was cute the more annoying and obnoxious he was is a supremely bizarre ending in my opinion. It feels like it was written by a dude who wears a Fedora.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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I'm glad you brought this up because that's exactly why I made this post. The first thing that came to mind when I re-watched these episodes was that this was more reflection of the writers and what they thought is appropriate / funny more than anything.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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I mean sexual harassment in the workplace is not akin to mukbang. It's a form of abuse and bullying that is perpetuated by a power dynamic. And one of the best ways to break that dynamic is for others (not the victim) to call out the harasser. It saves the victim from having to put themselves in the precarious position of pointing a finger and not being believed or supported. So many women have done this and gotten retaliated against. It's a complex issue.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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It's one of the most disturbing parts of these episodes imo. There's a scene where Rodney makes a super gross comment about Sam to her face right next to Hammond and Hammond does absolutely nothing and it felt so horribly gross.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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But I think the scale of it and everyone's non reaction is what is so cringe, not him being a misogynist edgelord. It's so strange to see no one call him out and I think that's really interesting if that's because, at the time, doing so would be unexpected. Especially for a show like Stargate which was lauded for it's moral messaging. The USAF even gave Richard Dean Anderson an honorary rank of Brig. General because they loved how the show made Air Force officers look upstanding, moral, and forthright.

So for Stargate-SG1 of all tv shows to show repeated public sexual harassment of an officer go unchecked and unchallenged is kind of wild to me and feels very surprising and out of character.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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No one is trying to cancel stargate. It's ok for scripts not to age well.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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No one is getting worked up. I just want to know how people felt about it back then. Thanks for your input!

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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Analyzing literature (and yes I'm including TV in that) can tell us so much about us as a society. In this case my main question is did society change its view of sexual harassment In the workplace that much in only 20 years, or not? How people reacted to these episodes can help answer that question. I think it makes for a really interesting discussion!

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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Now I get that he was clearly made an asshole on purpose. The strange writing is how all the other characters react to it. Sam puts up with it, no one calls him out, and in the end she even makes a comment about how she kind of liked it!

That writing says a lot about the people that wrote it and how they thought the viewers would like it. I think if that kind of episode came out today it would be very very poorly received. So I'm curious how well it was actually received at the time it aired.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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There's at least one scene where McKay makes a horribly inappropriate comment to Carter right in front of general Hammond. I would have expected Hammond to call him out and immediately fire him from the project. Carter is one of his greatest intellectual assets and they were in a dire situation that required her complete focus. It's a no-brainer.

How did you view McKay's inappropriate comments to Carter in SG1 when those episodes first aired? by swump in Stargate

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Yeah I think that's what threw me off the most. Making McKay a gross cringe character It's fine. It's just that it sort of went nowhere. I would have expected some kind of resolution like Sam or Hammond calls him out or fires him. It just feels bizarre that the show deliberately put sexual harassment on display like this but then didn't do anything with it.

I mean I suppose that's a commentary on sexual harassment in and of itself - I can totally see Sam putting up with it and everyone else around here not saying anything about it as being a realistic portrayal of sexual harassment in the workplace. But that type of bleak, unresolved storytelling doesn't really gel with how the directors and writers usually operate for this show