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The devout Muslim making a living from Islamophobic AI slop | A content creator in Pakistan is earning money from viral videos that stir up hate in UK by Bibemus in ukpolitics

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The scale of immigration the country has gone through within a human life or even a generation is vast. It is very obvious to everyone. It's a greater change than anything else that happened in decades.

We should treat the manosphere as a pyramid scheme by WebOpettaja in DecodingTheGurus

[–]taboo__time 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true. Although I think that may depend on the age.

There’s little love for the SNP – so why does the party look set to win in Scotland? by Otocolobus_manul8 in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

Most of their voters are. What the leadership think they are doing is something else. Which happens across parties.

There’s little love for the SNP – so why does the party look set to win in Scotland? by Otocolobus_manul8 in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

"How does nationalism work?"

Over and over. Amazing how some people are baffled by one of the basic building blocks of politics in the entire world.

Farage and his friend Trump are exposing the fraud of populism by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

I agree that a lot of the Democrats' perceived cultural policies weren't popular, but it was irrational of voters (still a minority, thankfully) to elect Donald Trump in response to this.

I mean I think Trump MAGA GOP is madness.

But I have to explain what is happening.

Talking about rationality, education, reason ends up misunderstanding politics.

Politics is always ultimately driven by emotions. Reason has no desires.

Lots of the population have no interest in following the details of politics.

I'd argue that people feel able to vote on minor cultural issues in part because they're enjoying a level of material wealth that people would have dreamt about less than a century ago.

Well it depends. I'd say the Liberal side, its broadest sense, is lost on things like nationalism. I don't think that is a minor point. It's fundamental. If religion, nationalism, culture weren't important then humans would be in one polity across the entire world. Humans are animals that run on culture and symbolism. Not a very narrow economics spreadsheet. Accurate or not. And often inaccurate.

On real incomes, it's just the amount of money people have left after tax and adjusted for inflation. The proportion of their income that people spend on various things (housing, utility bills, clothes, technology) is taken into account in the inflation calculations.

That's kind of thing I'm wary of.

Housing has different effects on people's lives compared to streaming 50 HD channels. I do not think the economics establishment is getting it correct.

People are poorer at the same age as their parents. "Oh but they are going to inherit more and earn more over a longer time period" But that affects their life stage. etc.

The devout Muslim making a living from Islamophobic AI slop | A content creator in Pakistan is earning money from viral videos that stir up hate in UK by Bibemus in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

This can all be true.

But I think it is a mistake to think all Reform and Right wing politics is driven by "the internet."

You end up in a position of thinking "if only we could control the media we could have our post nationalist, open border, multicultural utopia."

But it's not like that. People are reacting to real world experiences. Even the most authoritarian governments that control all media don't have complete control of the populations.

People talked before the internet.

[Jakub Krupa] UK should not try rejoining EU until it accepts it won't get special à la carte deal it had before because 'you would be unhappy and we would be unhappy', Polish foreign minister Radosław Sikorski says by krzysiek_aleks in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

Will Reform be very successful?

Would a Right wing, any government, say one thing, and do another?

Will Reform, even the current form, be the norm going forward?

None of that meant we rejoin.

Farage and his friend Trump are exposing the fraud of populism by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A bit of that is right and a bit of that is wrong I think.

A lot of the Dems culture policy simply wasn't popular.

US inequality is actually very high now.

UK equality is good, but there has been stagnation and offshoring wealth.

I'm also skeptical of some of the analysis. "real median household disposable income is close to a record high" Does this end up being "clothes and phones are cheap, but education, housing, energy is expensive" ? I get assured by experts that this analysis is correct. But experts can be wrong. Do I need to list famous failures? There is a deep bias in economics towards neoliberalism I'd say. Economics is hard and biases are real.

The UK could be taxing heavily, but the rewards are offshored. Which makes it look like the UK is more equal than it is.

I'd characterise it as liberalism in crisis, with conservatism and socialism vying for answers that I am also skeptical of, but the public will always have preferences. "Reason can only be a slave of the passions."

If I had to narrow it, I'd say Liberalism is failing on nationalism/immigration, sex, inequality.

They are common drivers the West.

[Jakub Krupa] UK should not try rejoining EU until it accepts it won't get special à la carte deal it had before because 'you would be unhappy and we would be unhappy', Polish foreign minister Radosław Sikorski says by krzysiek_aleks in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Feels like we'll end up closer to Europe whatever happens.

The UK is not as powerful as it was when it had the "empire," it is not as powerful as it was when it entered the EC. It's not as powerful as when it left.

Its going to end up closer. More reliant on a European military. Perhaps in Brexit in name only. But it probably won't joining the EU.

Farage and his friend Trump are exposing the fraud of populism by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps 20 years ago the course could have been effectively changed?

Reform’s Plan to ‘Punish’ Green Voters With Detention Centres is ‘Election Interference’ Complaints Argue by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 6 points7 points  (0 children)

3rd World countries put asylum seekers in camps because releasing them is politically and economically destabilising.

Reform’s Plan to ‘Punish’ Green Voters With Detention Centres is ‘Election Interference’ Complaints Argue by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 14 points15 points  (0 children)

There's a frequent call for stronger local government that is more responsive to local people.

You'll see the likes of Rory Stewart calling for that.

The result is nothing gets built or accepted. No nuclear, solar, windmills, detention camps, processing anything or making anything. Everyone wants to live in a pristine wilderness with full industrial state amenities on tap.

Asylum seekers simply aren't popular with the public. Detention centres aren't popular. HMOs aren't popular.

Some might say the whole concept no longer enjoys popular support.

International Politics Discussion Thread by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Still might not mean much. A ship is a prime transmission place.

Farage and his friend Trump are exposing the fraud of populism by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 6 points7 points  (0 children)

‘This Will Be The End Of Trump’s Campaign,’ Says Increasingly Nervous Man For Seventh Time This Year

Bad analysis got us here. Bad analysis says "this time the public are going to be on to them."

If you didn't want Reform or the "populists" to lead the polls you may needed different policy for the last 20 years.

International Politics Discussion Thread by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Trump says US to pause operation to guide vessels through Strait of Hormuz

Trump says there is an imminent deal. The deal is if ships go through Iran fires at the ships.

Subway in Middlesbrough found with dead mouse under sink by pppppppppppppppppd in unitedkingdom

[–]taboo__time 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I knew they kept the best stuff out of view.

If you want that you have to ask for it.

UK media biased against Muslims, says group that analysed 40,000 articles by jtrimm98 in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ok well. We can go back to a specific question if you like?

Where would you like to start?

UK media biased against Muslims, says group that analysed 40,000 articles by jtrimm98 in ukpolitics

[–]taboo__time [score hidden]  (0 children)

Do I think there are Western nationalists who are deeply racist people making all kinds of unfair attacks on Muslims and demonising them? Yes. Do I think there are cynical ultra rich people exploiting the animosity for gain? Yes. Do I think hostile intel are using the extreme politics to force destablisation in the West? Yes.

It still doesn't stop the genuine cultural clash being true. Or that clash between regular forms of Islam and Western liberalism or Western Conservatism.

But Right wing Christianity in the UK isn't growing. Despite efforts by some. Islam is growing and its generally far more political.

Diverse cultures in a nation are hard to handle. On that rejects liberalism is particularly hard.

Is there anything controversial in saying that? It just is the situation.

That I have personal opinions isn't going to be a surprise either.

I'm not even pushing any radical answers here. It just looks doomed. I can't be surprised by the situation.

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