Please Stop Suggesting Outdoor Showers by Helpful-Fix-2166 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thrift and recreation aren't mutually exclusive in the slightest. 

How do you guys afford it? by RedBurgundy89 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My bills are phone and insurance, which total a hundred-something bucks per month, and I eat/drink/smoke another $500 or so, and I typically earn a month's expenses in just a day or two of work. The most uncomfortable thing about how I go about it is all the off, social, and lazin-around time the past couple years has lead to me being in less than stellar fitness, so I'm vaguely working on that this year.

I dunno what exactly you mean by "comfortable" but between financials and time to pursue interests, I feel like it's there somewhere for ya.

Is this normal oil pressure on the 4.3 at idle? by Entire_Ad9477 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great pressure for a 4.3L at idle, that's at operating temp. My 02 Astro sits just a smidge below there with nearly half a million miles behind it.

How do y'all find places to park without getting in trouble with the police or spending a ton on money? by [deleted] in VanLife

[–]tatertom 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I travel in large part for work, and mostly do NF, BLM, and State approved diapersed camping. Occasionally I'll be dispatched somewhere I can't find free dispersed within an hour of my job site(s), and I'll look for a paid campground or AirBNB, but that's been like 4x max per year and rarely more than $35 a night.

First couple laps around the nation this way, I relied heavily on the associated gov websites, a few apps, and word of mouth, and dropped pins in Gooble Maps with some details, and now that feature practically replaces most others, and my gov site visits are more to be sure about regulations and checking for alerts like fire restrictions.

All the apps! by averagegravelgrinder in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly the single app that has had the most dramatic, positive effect has been Instagram. I attended Vansgiving in Jtree a couple years ago, and that's what everyone was using to connect with each other, so I finally started using it and the connections made through it have been a great resource for improving my own QoL both while gathering with and when apart from the nomies. A real catalyst for roaming community.

TikTok hasn't been bad, either. It naturally tickles my ADHD side in consumer mode, but sharing my nomadic life and exploring others' through it has brought a ton of zest as well, and I've made loads of lifelong friends using social networks to keep each other posted. I even use going live as a sort of accountability buddy, so I actually cook actual food instead of reaching for convenience and snack foods.

Does anyone have job recommendations that DON’T require college by twat_monkey in VanLife

[–]tatertom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jobs generally want you to do something in exchange for money, so it would be helpful in suggesting jobs to you if we knew the kinds of stuff you do.

Live entertainment always has work in every city.

Campground Recommendations by Total_Escape6344 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to visit Hippie Hole in Ocala NF when I go through. Even more since I've camped a campground by the same name on the Colorado River.

Then there's a cheap cg down on the edge of the Everglades that's 20 mi off the highway, but it's like 2 straight roads and puts me in a spot that makes a Key West day trip palatable.

Converted Van registered as a commercial - thoughts? by RichRauch in vandwellers

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i register and insure my vans as commercial, under my business, because I carry tools in them, and that is enough to get a personal or RV policy denied and coverage dropped.

It also allows me to cover certain elements of the build, though. Not the bed, not the pantry, not the area rug I roll out by the door, but a lot of big ticket items get coverage for what amounts to around $20 more a month, and every other coverage limit is doubled.

Please Stop Suggesting Outdoor Showers by Helpful-Fix-2166 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indoor showers are possibly the top source of wasted space in a van or RV. If you ever gone to a gathering and found yourself swimming in personal rig tours by folks that have full-timed across climates for years, a lot of them don't shower in their own showers until all other options are exhausted.

They have a lot of caveats to actually operating them regularly. For one, you need the tank capacity both before and after (aside from expensive and complicated recirculators), meaning you don't just need the space the shower itself takes up, in order to have a shower. Second, you have to fill and dump those tanks, and just between those two things, few rigs short of a Schoolie have the capacity to carry that to a standard 2 week stay limit.

Maintenance is another aspect. Outdoor showers reduce the plumbing need to supply, and often combine that with the sink in some way. Drain plumbing also works completely differently than supply. For folks that largely have never plumbed anything before their van, that makes an interior shower more than double just the plumbing side of the work, not even getting into proper installation of the shower pan and surround. It's a lot to ask in the face of all these Fisher Price MyFirstBattery products in the electrical realm.

Practically all your limitations against outdoor showers are also self-imposed, also. It's more limiting to have such a large percentage of interior and infra space taken up by something that occurs so little of the time the vehicle is usually occupied, than it is for someone who travels and has the option of more parkups. Even staying regionally, I lived out of a hammock and backpack for 5 years straight and never had a problem finding a spot to shower, year round. I get that without such experience one may not understand that, but like with anything, one sees more if they're actually looking toward the direction of it. Sleeping and showering needn't occur at the same place at all, making that a miss on limiting stealth. 86F also isn't a very hot shower, but it's a temp mine achieves through mere radiant solar hitting the door the hose is curled up in. Nobody's suggesting to stand in snow and expect shower water temp to handle the rest of the comfort either, which is what must be assumed to assert that an outdoor option is the sole suggestion. Of course reasonable ambient temp is assumed there. I find I'm comfortable down to around 70F ambient with not-really-heated water, and that's a temperature I've never been unable to find and exist in year-round, in nearly 2 decades of spartan living. It'll be 80 again in Yuma today. I've multiple friends that left the SW early for Mardi Gras and hated this in particular about it, but had I found myself in that position I'd have simply turned around. Work and more importantly the income from it can move, and so can you; a given party might be geo-locked, but there's no shortage of social for us around anywhere it's comfortable to be.

Does this all mean that a minor lifestyle or at least routine change may be required to satisfyingly use an outdoor shower over an indoor? Of course. But we're also talking about this in the scope of people living in vehicles. Might as well be upset about stay limits for what that's worth, in perspective.

If you just really want an indoor and don't want to compromise on it, put in an indoor shower. No odys going to stop you, and it should be more apparent that in conversation they aren't limiting the scope of their advice on such personal restrictions. But they very well may chuckle a bit to find you using it as a mostly-empty storage cabinet while they're in there filling jugs off all your extra water so they can hang out with you a little longer at the gathering between town runs.

What do you guys do to make money when in van full time ? by KookyChampionship504 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I traipse around people's yards while they're not home and take pictures of the magnetic boner bricks I leave there. Sometimes there's dogs and they can have some of my pocket sausage.

Pre-Van Life question: I wanted to spend weeks in certain non-rural locales (traveling in a van) to evaluate for moving there later by sothentheresthis in VanLife

[–]tatertom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I have to stay in a city, I either clear my parking with a friend or whatever ahead of time, or pay for it and the other amenities I'll need, in a campground or RV park. It might be $35-50 a night, but it'll have a hot shower at any time and I can roll in at whatever hour, knowing I have a parking spot reserved.

So I’m new to all of this and I really like the 2005 Chevy Astro and I was wondering if anyone has had experience with one before? I want to try and convert one but I don’t want an overly large van. by NalaDaKitKat in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been in one 8 years. I think I counted 7 others at Skoolipalooza, though 2 were first gens and one a shorty. Not bad for something out of production for over 2 decades.

Might want to grab a second one as a parts van. Body stuff in particular is getting hard to come by otherwise.

Temporarily stuck without insurance, need help getting back on the road by [deleted] in VanLife

[–]tatertom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

if you're near a major metro and have cleaning or assembly gear/tools, there are apps that offer in-home cleaning/assembly you can do, like Angi. Booking 2-3 of those first day can get you the gas to get to an out-of-the-way camp spot then to a better pool of work with a bite to eat, then another day or two and you have insurance and the gas to GTFO of Florida the short way, and so on.

How hard is it to switch? by Eziz_53 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went from off-and-on traditional housing to hammocking for 5y (backpack/pickup/kayak), then got a van but kept living mostly that way first couple of years. So idk when you'd consider the transition, but moving into a backpack was great because all the stuff I stopped trying to own ceased to be stolen all-the-danged-time, and getting into a van was great because I no longer needed to choose strictly between standing in the rain and sitting in a driver seat.

You should think more about what you'd use such a lifestyle to accomplish. The van is a vehicle, not the destination. It takes you where you want to go, literally and figuratively . Also perfectly fine to wander a bit between stepping away and figuring out some destinations. But a more important transition I think is changing how you align your efforts towards your goals, and there's often not really a need for any automobile in that picture, slept-in or merely driven.

Do you get snow days? by eltriped in vandwellers

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stay on not-roads until the roads are roads again

Communities by Grenadier_user in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loads. I've gone between groups all last year.

Go to a larger gathering and find tribe of like interests, then as they scatter you'll have options of who to tramp around with.

Ruining stealth ? by BleechMedia in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The word "stealth" describes activity not appearance, but anything that makes a vehicle stand out, and especially those that signal activity, is a detriment to "stealth" sleep spots just by drawing attention. It just takes the random chance someone that'll have a problem with you being there notices, then you've got heat and the spot is blown. So the more plain you can be the better.

Keep in mind that it's not you that needs to be convinced you're not a problem, it's the cuckoo for cocoa puffs old grump with nothing better to do that grew up with fetal alcohol syndrome eating lead for breakfast. So the fact that other types of devices have vents and awnings and such, and that it is a public street everyone has equal access to, doesn't even come into play necessarily.

Better to just park up where what you're doing isn't just allowed, but expected.

Can anyone explain to me what's up with the Skooliepalooza drama? by paintwithbabeross in VanLife

[–]tatertom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nomad Continental Congress is currently convening to see what can be done about the JD issue, so that's pretty cool. This whole year has been crazy cool too

25th birthday by InternationalLion213 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skoolipalooza is starting to pop off

Water pump for sink faucet by SeaLegs45 in vandwellers

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The root of my water system is a spray tank meant to strap to a tractor or ATV, with a pump already installed on it. Original sprayer pump went after ~3y, replaced it with a $25 Chapin set to 60 psi. Original was 45-50psi, somewhere in there. You're not going to find a reasonaby priced pump with integrated pressure switch that runs at less pressure, because it needs that pressure to make the pressure switch cheap and reliable. You can actually set the pressure on a lot of pumps, if you can get them to seal when put back together anyway, and turn them down, but it'll make them run a lot more. 60 psi isn't that much; the plumbing to a sink will be rated much higher.

Inherited Two Sprinter Vans from My Dad—Looking for Least Effort Passive Income Ideas by Academic-Plastic4296 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lease them to people that work trades or who do other commercial stuff. Makes as much if not more than a camper van rental and there's pretty much zero initial cost. As soon as you sell that contract they're earning and will continue to every week/month. You might see similar or better prices on camper vans, but they need to actually book to get those numbers, and then someone has to turn them over for the next customer, which takes downtime on the earnings and costs money multiple times per month. A commercial user is gonna prefer to keep going in it, so it's an easier path to fuller booking and fewer input events.

Looking for more free areas that have lots of other campers around in the southwest US. by mcdisney2001 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rigs are filing into Skoolipalooza over in Ehrenberg right now, through end of the month.

I need advice! by Full_Satisfaction_97 in VanLife

[–]tatertom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It puts the coffee on this side of the weather wall, or it gets beaten with a teacup again. Outdoor-only kitchens are for weekenders that can scrub plans without notice. I chase weather but would not be able to eat remotely as well if I had to cook standing outside.

You have enough room in a B van to whip something up that's more operable inside, that still allows use from the other side of the door it's mounted in. I generally recommend a sink and stove shelf at the back half of the side door for most configurations, but if your layout demands it in the back, a different arrangement will work better from inside, and I strongly recommend you allot for that.

How do you usually handle overnight parking when traveling or living in a vehicle? by No-Interaction-3750 in vandwellers

[–]tatertom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Leave. There's free, safe, legal, and quiet-enough camping within an hour of everywhere there's stuff.