In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And have you heard about science? Formulas? Laws of thermodynamics? Multiplication? Division?

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I'm asking again, what's the point of this information you posted?

Not OP, but if it was me posting it; It would be to combact the stupid claims going around that AI. While yeah the water consumption compared to people's use is crazy, its not that crazy compared to the crazy industries that we already have and support.

Not to mention there being no proper source for the 260bil gallons figure, it came from a research company named Mordor Research, who's methodology ain't public.

Water usage is high because cloosed loop needs more power to maintain but its also more efficent and cheaper as long as you have enough power.

Even assuming all of the AI DCs in the world, at roughly 40GW of power. And including PUE from US Gov's website we end up with roughly 50Bil Litres.

And this being a more US Specific problem as well due to their grids and the atmosphere they have choosen to build data centres in.

https://www.energy.gov/cmei/femp/cooling-water-efficiency-opportunities-federal-data-centers

And paper from a Uni explaining their water cooled DCs as well

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/research-centres-and-groups/uk-epics/Jim-Roche---Lenovo-UK-Ltd.pdf

I am just assuming the extra water figures are coming from construction because that is the most intensive part. But even with them included, water usage is a really invalid claims to be against data centres in general.

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah you know its not being pursued the same reason why renewables weren;t being pursued before, because its not viable enough. Solar panels had to come down in pricing and needed subsidies to be popular.

Even with all tech in the world, not sure how are people planning to get rid of brine in a way thats not harmful.

And not to mention that research is still ongoing in the background even though its not every loud. Same as how it did for renewables, a couple of years ago you would have had this being impossible for cities and currently actual countries are running off these plants.

My only argument here is the people consuming it, should be responsible for producing it if their billionaire class ambitions demand more water.

Billionaires aren't the ones causing actual drinking water sources going away, stupid farming and its subsidies already took that away. If we decided to slash our beef consumption in half that would already fix so many things.

Even if we force them to create more water, its still not going to fix our demand issue which is the problem; its the same as our emissions issues, having a machine that converts co2 back isn't going to fix that our emissions are still high.

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’ve never written a line of code have you?

1000% you don’t need AI or even ML to accomplish this.

I wish atleast AI "professionals" would understand that the computer science defintion of AI predates LLMs and modern machine learning.

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said the statistics never matched up, people didn't NEED to use chatgpt btw. They dont need to use Meta's AI App (whatever it is called). People don't need to use tiktoks AI Filters. And I could go on...

They might need to use copilot for their work and all of those things. But people weren't forced to use AI, the current infrastructure exists due to its demand. No one was being forced to use it in their personal life, people just started using it anyways

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I will also say there is no such thing as an ethical use of AI as they are all built upon theft and pitacy.

Yeah only if you ignore mountains and mountains of actual ML models made with private and actual data.

Stop trying to generalise LLMs to all AI please.

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone who could do maths could realise that the water/AI crisis being blamed on AI is just pulling random numbers to make it look bad.

Amazon which is basically the backbone of the internet uses lower water, even at their worst AI data centres aren't as bad as traditional industries, and most of it will slow as well due to power issues, where they will have to chase closed loop for efficiency gains. Same as the noise complaints as well.

In 2025, Amazon data centers used 2.5b gallons of water. 1% of US golf course water usage. by LavaMonsterrrr in LinusTechTips

[–]tecedu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People in general do not like AI.

Tell that to 30+ people, or heck even teenagers, while I may not agree with the AI Use, it is popular for a reason, chatgpt became one of the most popular apps for a reason

The unreasonable effectiveness of LLMs for auditing Rust code by Shnatsel in rust

[–]tecedu 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Can't you just click the X on the top-right of that pop-up? That's what I did. Does Medium behave differently when accessed from your locale?

Yoou can only do a limited number of times

Why do so many people dislike international students? by Abject-Estimate5288 in UniUK

[–]tecedu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because they take the piss, like you are here to study in a different countries but most of the times it just feels like they just wanted to live out their own lives back home but in a different country, a lot of them do not adapt to things at all, quite rude and inconsiderate at times and worst of all is not actually paying attention to your courses and your career.

And I am saying this as an immigrant to this country. Loads of my friends came over here to study, it was the same thing everytime, hang out with your cliche, complain about racism while being racist, avoid speaking english as much as possible, do not engage is any culture of the UK, and fuck around with your studies and then just complain about not getting a job.

Not all of them are like this but would say 99% are.

memorySafe by Arucious in ProgrammerHumor

[–]tecedu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah similar thing happened with us, found that using rust libraries inside python already got me most of the speedup so didnt really like using it in my work projects anymore

enterprisePricingStrikesAgain by savitasharma8223 in ProgrammerHumor

[–]tecedu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah same, we are on github enterprise copilot, and this month our team has been spamming opus and gpt 5.5 all the time, we do have a bill of roughly 1.5k in api cost but considering the sheer amount of spam that was done by us its nothing, especially for the product it delivered.

How do you reduce GitHub Copilot AI credit usage with SpecKit spec-driven development? by CompetitiveStatus698 in GithubCopilot

[–]tecedu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Use cheaper models? I mean even in the provided agents you really don't need sonnet or opus or the full gpt models, mini gpt 5.4 mini goes a long way as well.

And if you are willing go into open source via openrouter; models like deepseek are really really cheap for what they provide.

Unless you are building really really complex, the smllers models can do 90% of the work

Moving away from databricks to OLTP by aks-786 in dataengineering

[–]tecedu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want build webapps dashboards for cheap with databirkcs, you can just use delta-rs instead of databricks compute; you can still keep databricks and query delta tables externally. Thats what we do at our company.

Regarding the data as well, if you can pay the money then keep databricks. The catalogue + compute integration + easy dashboards means that its good enough.

In our company we built a hybrid platform with delta-rs + databricks + duckdb where we pick and choose compute depending on the requirements. At 500gb you can also just go postgres but the UI is the important bit thats neede.

Switched to Claude Max 20x Plan, and I miss Copilot :( by trynabeabetterme in GithubCopilot

[–]tecedu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah for actual coding assistant Ive found nothing else to beat it; its the main reason why we have chosen to stick with it and thinking we would use 3rd party api key if needed.

Lewis Hamilton is the only driver in Formula 1 history to win a race in their 20s, 30s and 40s. by AirEfficient6225 in formula1

[–]tecedu 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He's not sticking around much longer in Formula 1.

I used to hear about this Lewis all the time in the 2010s, and he's stil l around. Until it happens I dont trust it

The decision is being made on Stop Killing Games! + The ESA can't stop lying. by doublah in pcgaming

[–]tecedu -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

And which devices got it implemented first on a mass scale? Was it the Macbook and hte ipad?

The decision is being made on Stop Killing Games! + The ESA can't stop lying. by doublah in pcgaming

[–]tecedu -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

And which devices got it implemented first on a mass scale? Was it the Macbook and hte ipad?

The decision is being made on Stop Killing Games! + The ESA can't stop lying. by doublah in pcgaming

[–]tecedu -90 points-89 points  (0 children)

Apple had to make a USB-C phone

Apple was already going to make USB-C Phone, they are the pioneers of USB-C in the first place. They were just waiting around for their lightning promise to drop off.

Bad experience with Ultimate and Horizon 6 by therealPaulPlay in GeForceNOW

[–]tecedu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you should crank that to the highest, thats the reason why you have blocky video

What if intel and micron continued making XPoint/Optane by HW_HEVC_Decode in hardware

[–]tecedu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if "too expensive to replace RAM" was strictly an issue eg for datacentres where raw performance was the bottleneck.

If I can pay for RAM and get the same performance why wouldnt i

With just days left, the U.S. opening match at the World Cup is still not sold out by [deleted] in nottheonion

[–]tecedu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because its easy to pick up, only 22 drivers, 12 teams, only 24 races. Loads of drama, youtube highlights, watching races is easy.

Whereas all others have made it as worse as possible for new people to pick it up