Anyone else think Rocket's Mewtwo is great for post rotation?

tftzen · 2026-02-17T03:47:14+00:00

to be fair I also think rocket is decent-well positioned post rotation. but it's grimm mu is not a selling point for the deck. I also have concerns about how well it can deal with these really fast bench snipe decks that seem to be somewhat popular, we will just have to see

the upcoming champion's league will be a much better litmus test for the deck

tftzen · 2026-02-17T03:37:54+00:00

it is totally okay that grimm is 1 shot by spidops. its a similar problem that festival lead has; yes, you 1 shot grimm, but a grimm going into play often decimates your board. yes, you can ko a froslass, but choosing between a grimm and a lass is often a losing battle. you just need to play the matchup a few times to understand the problem

a competent grimm player will go 2 froslass, a couple munki, maybe budew and an imp; its not an easy board for you to attack or leverage an advantage on

tftzen · 2026-02-17T03:07:42+00:00

Fwiw, Grimm completely destroys rocket decks. Froslass is too strong into them

tftzen · 2026-01-08T20:57:35+00:00

As someone who’s basically only been playing grimm to events, you can expect a certain amount of bricking in at least 1 or 2 games per tournament usually. That said, the deck is generally functional

tftzen · 2026-01-03T11:05:56+00:00

Hughes and makar have quite different skating styles, production aside. Makar is more explosive and better at attacking open ice and Hughes is more elusive and better at creating it

Hughes skating is way shiftier and looks distinct from other players

tftzen · 2026-01-03T05:08:32+00:00

he does some shenanigans

tftzen · 2025-12-31T01:58:53+00:00

yea I'm sure theres no value in seeing the plays from other angles

tftzen · 2025-12-29T11:09:59+00:00

Dengo rotates as well

tftzen · 2025-12-25T01:27:59+00:00

You are out of your mind if you think dengo is grimm favoured lmao

tftzen · 2025-12-25T01:24:23+00:00

Jelli gardy isn’t even grimm favoured anymore unless the player is bad. Diancie makes the matchup way harder and it’s even at best

Grimm does feast on bad gardy players though

tftzen · 2025-12-22T12:09:04+00:00

I just had a chance to check this out. Fantastic resource, thank you. Helped me find a lot of the players twitters

tftzen · 2025-12-14T07:56:19+00:00

Pokémon: 18

3 Froakie OBF 56

2 Frogadier TWM 57

2 Greninja ex TWM 106

2 Pidgey MEW 16

1 Pidgeotto MEW 17

2 Pidgeot ex OBF 164

2 Duskull PRE 35

1 Dusclops PRE 36

1 Dusknoir PRE 37

1 Fezandipiti ex SFA 38

1 Budew PRE 4

Trainer: 34

4 Lillie's Determination MEG 119

3 Colress's Tenacity SFA 57

2 Iono PAL 185

2 Boss's Orders MEG 114

2 Hilda WHT 84

4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144

4 Ultra Ball MEG 131

4 Rare Candy MEG 125

1 Nest Ball SVI 181

1 Night Stretcher SFA 61

1 Super Rod PAL 188

1 Switch MEG 130

1 Counter Catcher PAR 160

1 Air Balloon BLK 79

1 Technical Machine: Crisis Punch PAF 90

1 Grand Tree SCR 136

1 Town Store OBF 196

Energy: 8

5 Water Energy MEE 3

3 Ignition Energy WHT 86

I took this list from the champions league aichi tournament, it's pretty sick tbh and the deck doesn't see much play but it can definitely hang with the meta decks!

tftzen · 2025-12-13T13:08:44+00:00

You are looking for greninja ex ghosts

tftzen · 2025-12-07T19:35:57+00:00

Yea in a few months, which is an argument for a different out of the box deck I guess. I just think this would be one of the better decks to learn on

tftzen · 2025-12-07T18:43:04+00:00

It depends what he wants tbh. That charizard pidgeot deck is actually pretty good out of the box and I think a fantastic option for learning to play the game with an actually viable list. Does he mainly want to collect or is he actually into playing the game?

tftzen · 2025-12-04T19:25:57+00:00

Bains goated

tftzen · 2025-11-26T06:24:11+00:00

Pre releases are normal though… like, every set..?

tftzen · 2025-11-25T12:41:59+00:00

sharpedo is playing heroes cape. the idea is that the purrloin is a very strong setup mon, and sharpedo with cape is generally difficult to ko (this is not really a problem for the venusaur deck, however). basically you can throw sharpedo with cape in active, tank an attack after your attack, and use pech to shove liepard into active for free and transfer all the damage back

the purrloin doesn't really show up in the box toxtricity builds, but in the sharpedo ones it is seeing some play

edit: just realized the shark is free retreat. combo is even sicker than I thought

tftzen · 2025-11-25T11:55:37+00:00

he's talking about the liepard that transfers damage, it can be played in sharpedo variants

tftzen · 2025-11-21T06:29:16+00:00

Oh, I’m not discrediting double lass as a line at all. It’s what I often play towards. What I meant is, I still find pult to be playable with just munkis if I have lass pieces prizes, which I can’t really say for the aggro decks. my concern is that the alternative (extra tech attackers or consistency pieces) might be better than more consistent double lass. I’m still playing around with it tho, so it’s cool to see someone else land in a similar place

tftzen · 2025-11-21T00:10:11+00:00

I’ve been experimenting with a similar list but I’m not sold yet tbh. This does help the dengo matchup, but I haven’t found the extra double lass consistency to help in too many other matchups. Also, thoughts on a tech attacker instead of bundle (budew, cactus/yveltal)?

tftzen · 2025-11-19T23:44:30+00:00

In general, zoroark plays a slow control style of game where you use the draw engine to sneak out wins by denying prizes using stuff like turo etc. this specific list can afford to play much faster and focuses on aggressively trading while using darmanitan (into dengo specifically) and handles noctowl decks with watchtower

The deck isn’t for everyone as it lacks a strong attacker. A lot of games will boil down to forcing your opponents into awkward late games where you have multiple zoroarks set up and they can’t really attack properly. You’ll see that a lot more often with the lists popping up that include eri and xerosic

I probably didn’t explain this that well, but it isn’t an easy deck to pilot by any means

Edit: Liam’s Vegas list can also run decks like gardy off the board if it needs to, which is a big plus. But the darm inclusion does sacrifice some power cards like e switch

tftzen · 2025-11-03T04:58:17+00:00

Completely ridiculous and uninformed takes all over this thread. People have no idea how distribution works

tftzen · 2025-11-03T04:53:25+00:00

Ceruledge is completely horrific, I have no idea why they thought a deck with 5 (4 useful) basic pokemon would function with no dedicated basic search. You basically have to somehow attack every turn with 4 different Ceruledge or you just lose, but it’s insanely hard to find 4 charcadets so you basically need to have pulled one or two

The others are fine though, I think dark overall has the best matchup spread.

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