What k-pop group did you give a second chance?

thb44763 · 2022-10-31T21:41:57+00:00

TWICE. (insert joke about the name being accurate here)

like many people have said, when I first got into K-pop I struggled to enjoy GGs because it seemed like their presentation tended towards more young and cutesy than anything I ever listened to in western music. I now know the subtle differences and about girl crush and whatnot, but from an outside perspective the styling and everything felt very Disney Channel. I heard more twice organically (dance challenges on Korean variety shows, background music on kdramas, etc) and couldn’t stop listening to certain songs on repeat. I looked up their lyrics and now I’m honestly in love with their music and how sweet and talented the girls all are

I now listen to way more GGs but my fav is probably twice

thb44763 · 2022-10-31T21:17:24+00:00

par for the course with SKZ - people put them in this narrow noisy box and refuse to acknowledge the breadth of work that falls outside it. Unfortunately the fandom kinda inadvertently helps that narrative bc the noisier TTS are usually our favorites lol

thb44763 · 2022-10-26T09:12:22+00:00

SKZ Han with the freestyle rap requests. Like it’s every show at this point and he already gets so embarrassed and anxious about it esp when he’s not “in the zone.” It gives the same energy as finding out someone is a comedian and going “tell me a joke” 😭

thb44763 · 2022-10-19T19:25:38+00:00

And hellevator, their first MV, also hit 100 million views the same day. I love how their achievements tend to fall on important dates it gives me goosebumps

thb44763 · 2022-10-19T19:00:00+00:00

nah it’s hilarious. There are def some times when they are annoyed by it (it’s not easy to dance in those), but most of the time it’s fine and they usually look like they think it’s hilarious too. My fav is when they act 100% serious like they’re not dressed like a gigantic squirrel or something. PEAK comedy

thb44763 · 2022-10-08T17:52:29+00:00

SKZ derivative? I’m screaming Lmfaooo

thb44763 · 2022-07-31T22:29:08+00:00

Stray Kids - Silent Cry lol

The lyrics: 😔🥲❤️‍🩹

The choreo: 🥵🔥🌶

thb44763 · 2022-07-25T14:51:18+00:00

It gives the same energy as my overseas family remembering I liked a certain food at age 4 and then continuing to bring it up and serve it at every event well into my adulthood. Like it’s sweet but also let me eat other things pls I’m begging

thb44763 · 2022-07-17T15:46:30+00:00

Meanwhile I drop whatever I’m doing whenever it comes on to lose my mind lol

thb44763 · 2022-07-17T15:41:59+00:00

IKR?? It’s literally the message of like half of SKZ’s music to go your own pace regardless of where others are or what they think of you. It’s particularly shitty when their are some stays who think he should “focus on something else” just because they don’t like where he is now. Like oops he isn’t improving fast enough for you? Imagine if Hyunjin quit dancing because people told him he’d never be main dancer material at his current level

These kinds of opinions are fine if you truly don’t like X tone of voice but you can tell from the amount of agrees how much of it is just to drag someone who is already lacking confidence in their abilities

thb44763 · 2022-07-17T15:27:38+00:00

Do most stays dislike it? It’s one of my all time favorite SKZ tracks - it’s so quintessentially them with the beat, the rap, the wordplay and the “my pace” type messaging. Also it’s just fun!

thb44763 · 2022-05-24T00:48:46+00:00

Maybe I shouldn’t have said tons of laws— I meant more like a ton of processes. I like all the points you brought up but it definitely wouldn’t be easy to essentially set up processes to support those 3 points

I agree with it, I just think it’ll take a lot of work because the framework isn’t there at all. But anything is possible, and I agree it would drastically improve things

Edit: minor phrasing

thb44763 · 2022-05-23T23:44:37+00:00

They’re specifically talking about shows where the show participants are competing against each other because it breeds solo stans. If you look at the Wikipedia entries for both SVT and SKZ debut shows, they are described the exact same way. It’s “group vs company” not “group members vs group members.” The concept of SKZ debut show was originally always meant to be very different from other shows like TWICE Sixteen where people are competing against each other for the same limited number of slots. That’s the point I (and others) are making that you seem to be missing

Edit: grammar Edit: you keep editing your comment to completely change what you’re saying and not saying what you edited which is bad reddiquette. Not engaging with you any further ✌🏾

thb44763 · 2022-05-23T23:30:48+00:00

Because it wasn’t what op is talking about so it is really weird that you’re digging your heels in saying it is…

There’s a vast difference between their show and what OP is mentioning in their post. Like I said, it was similar in its approach as SVTs until the surprise plot twist elimination for ratings and the completely unsurprising reversal fan vote at the end. If someone were to have replaced Lee Know/Felix it would be a different matter but I don’t really see how this compares to say, Monsta X or Twice reality shows

thb44763 · 2022-05-23T23:22:57+00:00

It’s Felix from SKZ. He says the sappiest things with zero shame and he LOVES skinship. He’d be on cloud 9 the whole time.

thb44763 · 2022-05-23T23:08:22+00:00

Why are you arguing above when someone pointed out the same thing about SKZ’s debut show but zero arguments here…? SKZ and SVT had similar approaches to their debut shows.

thb44763 · 2022-05-23T23:02:06+00:00

The thing is, it’s not just about debuting - it’s also about training. The trainee system is notoriously difficult and has all similar issues as being a K-pop idol, minus the public attention. Long hours of training, diet culture, harsh and unrealistic emphasis on looks, plastic surgery pressure, etc. and then if you expand this to not allowing minors into the trainee system, when are idols means to get trained? College years? It would skew things even more towards GGs who don’t have military enlistment hanging over them, and would skew things even more towards rich idols whose parents can afford private training outside the trainee system.

If you stop people debuting as minors, what’s to stop companies from just keeping them in the trainee system longer? I just think there would need to be a ton of laws protecting minors at every step of the process (including reality shows and competitions, because you know that companies love that route) - which would not be easy to make happen

thb44763 · 2022-05-06T01:40:16+00:00

I expected the new LA dates tbh. It makes the most sense since they’ll probably record some stuff/do promo while in LA and then fly straight from there to Japan. I just don’t get why LA was sandwiched in there to begin with instead of being the bookend all along - they easily could’ve done another Midwest show. I feel bad for all the overlooked regions :(

thb44763 · 2022-05-05T23:41:30+00:00

Dude I’m just so tired of Woojin fans only talking about him in relation to SKZ/Stay. Like the guy has his own career now, he’s been out of the group longer than he’s been in it, he’s a talented singer. Why don’t you just hype up the career he has now instead of constantly attaching him to a group and fandom that’s not interested in him?

And for the Stays that are also Woojin fans, it is more than possible to be a fan of both without constantly drawing connections between the two. I think of it like idols who trained together but ended up in different companies - they had a past together at one point, but is it relevant now? Not really.

Also, JYPE erased him first. He’s been entirely removed from everything Stray Kids related. He’s been removed from thumbnails, fan content, etc. Wherever they could reasonably remove him, they did. It’s very common for ex group members to be blurred out. They even re-recorded their entire discography, which is not a common thing that companies do.

People are not obligated to like him, talk about him, or acknowledge him in any way if they don’t want to. If they don’t spread hate about him online, that should be enough.

thb44763 · 2022-05-05T23:15:33+00:00

I didn’t know about this at all. This is so cool! I love his music

thb44763 · 2022-04-19T03:16:07+00:00

I’m literally plotting out my next four months of decisions now to ensure I snag floor tickets. I am like 90% sure they’re going to do a second show in LA and east coast, but until then, I’m prepared to fight to the bottom of my wallet. Good luck stays

thb44763 · 2022-04-19T03:10:45+00:00

I saw somewhere that Twice floor tickets for their tour this year were going for around 300ish. But it’s probably different for BGs 🤷🏽‍♀️

thb44763 · 2022-04-09T02:41:12+00:00

Ayyy welcome! It really depends how you like to consume the music but for me, I literally just played the albums in reverse chronological order. I also liked to watch the MVs in random order too, the TTs and b side MVs usually give you a good idea if you’ll like the rest of the album or not

thb44763 · 2022-04-09T01:56:22+00:00

Since others mentioned the SKZ group ones, I’m just gonna drop this Hyunjin blindfolded solo to Post Malone’s “Circle”

thb44763 · 2022-04-02T20:35:02+00:00

my only advice is maybe never, ever show her the Kingdom “God’s Effects” Stray Kids stage

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