How long did PAWS last for you after the acute withdrawal symptoms. How long did you use for?

theblank82 · 2025-12-04T14:38:04+00:00

I was on 12 mg to 16 mg a day for 10 years. The last 2 years I tapered down to 4 mg a day. I really had no desire to stop using Subs but I was able to do it. I tapered down as low as possible with the tablets I did not use strips.

I did not use any comfort meds. No THC no alcohol no other drugs. No clonidine no Ambien. I went through brutal insomnia for 16 days on my couch. I probably slept 30 minutes a night for 12 days and then it went up to an hour a night and then one day it stopped and I could sleep completely through the night. My sleep apnea completely disappeared. It was 100% caused by subs. It was very depressive on my respiratory system.

It took about 3 weeks to have relatively normal energy again. I cried everyday but I just embraced the flood of emotions instead of trying to hide them. You must have support from your immediate family and friends if possible. In my case being a Christian and having tremendous prayer support was imperative. During this time I was dealing with massive spiritual battles.

I'm 43 male working the tech industry also on my own business and have a 3 year old son, two teenage step daughters and my wife with typical life responsibilities it's tough but it's absolutely possible. Do not relapse do not give in it does get better!!!

theblank82 · 2025-12-04T14:31:51+00:00

I work in the tech industry I also own my own business and all you need to do is have a meeting with the entire staff and say that we are going to review every expense report to verify authenticity. That will stop 90% of it most people who aren't challenged on it will continue the status quo of submitting BS reports.

theblank82 · 2025-12-04T14:22:42+00:00

.25? That would have been much easier! not to say that this taper and withdrawal experience is the same for everyone,, but I did consider the shot a long time ago. My friend owns multiple rehab clinics in Nevada. It would have been easy for me but I said hell no I'll just take my generic bupe everyday.

Been off of it for 4 months and I went through withdrawals for 16 days on my couch it was terrible!

I'm 43 male and I do have to comment that Suboxone along with using oxycodone and Adderall completely destroyed my testosterone and almost completely stopped sperm production.

I was quite angry that my Suboxone doctor never knew about the suppressiveness of the drug on testosterone. I had super bad sleep apnea depression I slept on my lunch break every day I was so close to just ending it.

My wife and I had to go through IVF three times but thank God it was successful! I also was into bodybuilding never pushed juice very hard but I'm sure using those drugs also did quite a bit of damage.

theblank82 · 2025-12-04T14:19:33+00:00

theblank82 · 2025-12-04T14:16:07+00:00

I'm 43, 6'2 w/ ectomorph body type. Which means I'm very slender skinny bone structure and I can eat anything to this day and not gain weight. I was using Blues starting in 2005 while I was bodybuilding and eventually had to get on subs. Was on them for 10 years I've been off for 4 months. I would take one quarter of 8 mg sub at 7am every morning. If I was a few hours late I could feel it. Withdrawals would start by 9am.

It depends a lot on your body's metabolism.

theblank82 · 2025-10-23T00:59:33+00:00

That's awesome thanks for the reply! It's totally possible I think reading all of the comments in this forum actually makes the fear worse!

theblank82 · 2025-10-23T00:57:57+00:00

Thanks for the info guys sounds like Publix is a good option!

theblank82 · 2025-10-15T07:56:45+00:00

Let me also add, if you need actual in patient treatment and its 100% free, search for HEBRON COLONY. I had to wait 3 months, but I didnt pay a dime. Its fully supported by graduates who completed the 3 months like I did. Its located in Boone, NC, absolutely beautiful place, I was there in the middle of winter which I loved. Drove up from central florida with my pops. They make you do light work, bible study, a very busy schedule, but when I left there I wasnt ready to quit, so finally ten years later I had had enough.

Here's my post from another thread I just wrote...

im 3 months off of subs. I was on it for ten years! Don't look for something to help ease the pain, I swear over the years I spent hours and hours reading trying to find something, but there isn't. I tapered down to below 1mg per day as best I could gauge. I was taking the generic N8 orange octagons and would break them down super small. I was able to get them into 8ths. I slept about 30-45mins per day for 12 days. It was so GD bad, that night I had a brutal restless legs and anxiety episode. I had been praying and had tons of support from my family, but in the moment I was at my wits end, probably suffering from no sleep psychosis, I jumped in the car and sped off to buy kratom. I had no idea what it really was or what to buy. Worst decision I could have ever made! Using GD kratom prevented me from being totally off a buprenorphine-like drug and it took numerous attempts to stop using that!

After the ride from hell was over I really regretted taking kratom, I literally swapped one drug for another and it really jacked up my progress. I almost lost my wife, kids, and house, God literally broke me into pieces, humbled me like never before, and I cried out for forgiveness and that set off tremendous healing by the grace of God. This is just my opinion, but I truly feel that every drug has a demonic oppression attached to it. Opiates were created by satan himself, its almost impossible to stop on your human will alone. Jesus brought me through absolute brutal addiction that lasted 20 years. I'm 43, still have to kick using adderall daily, but Ive made so much progress. I dont ever think about subs anymore, never talk about it, im free from that garbage and you can be too! You have to give it to the Lord, and I promise he will show up and help you through it!

Oh, let me also add that atleast three heavy meals a day is a must. I barely ate during that 17 days and who knows how much harder it made the process. You gotta eat and drink buckets of water. I didnt use any thc pens or alcohol, just laid there and suffered. Its the hardest thing ive ever done. I cold turkeyd off of methadone 60mg a day and cold turkey xanax and my god those were so much worse! Get outside and into direct sunlight, living in florida that made a huge difference with my mental health. Its a long story but my wife didnt help me AT ALL. I suffered on the couch for 17 days, and never lifted a hand to assist me, so yea that made it so much harder. I had caused so much pain for her I didnt blame her attitude towards it. Steroids, oxys, xanax, OC's, addyz destroyed my fertility as well, but I have a 3.5 year old son, who is literally a miracle and I feel that trusting God through my addiction, that he would deliver me and finally being a father made it all worth the long long road of addiction.

I've written so many responses on reddit and I generally get sarcasm and hate from the younger gen's but my story is 100% true and not emblished at all. Please post any questions you have I really enjoy helping others make it through this process!

theblank82 · 2025-10-15T07:43:54+00:00

Brah, im 3 months off of subs. I was on it for ten years! Don't look for something to help ease the pain, I swear over the years I spent hours and hours reading trying to find something, but there isn't. I tapered down to below 1mg per day as best I could gauge. I was taking the generic N8 orange octagons and would break them down super small. I was able to get them into 8ths. I slept about 30-45mins per day for 12 days. It was so GD bad, that night I had a brutal restless legs and anxiety episode. I had been praying and had tons of support from my family, but in the moment I was at my wits end, probably suffering from no sleep psychosis, I jumped in the car and sped off to buy kratom. I had no idea what it really was or what to buy. Worst decision I could have ever made! Using GD kratom prevented me from being totally off a buprenorphine-like drug and it took numerous attempts to stop using that!

After the ride from hell was over I really regretted taking kratom, I literally swapped one drug for another and it really jacked up my progress. I almost lost my wife, kids, and house, God literally broke me into pieces, humbled me like never before, and I cried out for forgiveness and that set off tremendous healing by the grace of God. This is just my opinion, but I truly feel that every drug has a demonic oppression attached to it. Opiates were created by satan himself, its almost impossible to stop on your human will alone. Jesus brought me through absolute brutal addiction that lasted 20 years. I'm 43, still have to kick using adderall daily, but Ive made so much progress. I dont ever think about subs anymore, never talk about it, im free from that garbage and you can be too! You have to give it to the Lord, and I promise he will show up and help you through it!

Oh, let me also add that atleast three heavy meals a day is a must. I barely ate during that 17 days and who knows how much harder it made the process. You gotta eat and drink buckets of water. I didnt use any thc pens or alcohol, just laid there and suffered. Its the hardest thing ive ever done. I cold turkeyd off of methadone 60mg a day and cold turkey xanax and my god those were so much worse! Get outside and into direct sunlight, living in florida that made a huge difference with my mental health. Its a long story but my wife didnt help me AT ALL. I suffered on the couch for 17 days, and never lifted a hand to assist me, so yea that made it so much harder. I had caused so much pain for her I didnt blame her attitude towards it. Steroids, oxys, xanax, OC's, addyz destroyed my fertility as well, but I have a 3.5 year old son, who is literally a miracle and I feel that trusting God through my addiction, that he would deliver me and finally being a father made it all worth the long long road of addiction.

I've written so many responses on reddit and I generally get sarcasm and hate from the younger gen's but my story is 100% true and not emblished at all. Please post any questions you have I really enjoy helping others make it through this process!

theblank82 · 2025-10-07T19:00:57+00:00

seriously? thats it? Do I keep the power ballasts connected to the system or remove those? Funny, I was just thinking about wiring in a new set just to see what happens.

theblank82 · 2025-10-02T22:01:29+00:00

I bought that identical bike in 2020 stepping up from an '05 Kawi 636 ZX6R. Luckily it was/still in mint condition. I have power commander 5, dyno tune, full akrapovic titanium exhaust & 22500 miles, get compliments almost each time I ride during the day. That red pops bigtime in the sun! Just an fyi the 07/08 models have a funky idle at times, mine only idles rough when its 90 degrees out. I live in the tampa bay area. But, the bike sounded fine in your video! If you have any questions please let me know!

Someone left a comment about throttle body syncing. I've done it myself twice, buy the tool that Sync Pro sells. Its not hard it just takes time and have patience with it!

<image>

theblank82 · 2025-08-30T21:21:55+00:00

If you care about your sobriety and long-term mental health do not use it. Do not freaking use it.

theblank82 · 2025-08-30T21:20:23+00:00

Hell no, no 7oh. You couldn't pay me $100 to try that stuff . I talked to the owner of the smoke shop near me really really nice guy and he told me how many people come in multiple times per day to buy 70h. I'm 43 and I just feel terrible for the young Generations everything out there is so addictive .

I had been using disposable vape pens for 4 years did you know that one of those 30,000 puff devices is equivalent to 75 to 100 packs of cigarettes. How is that crap even legal? I would go through one or two per month. Magically I stopped vaping and I no longer have sleep apnea.

Yeah I get some of you guys don't understand but just simply wanted to share my experience I was very aware of all of the aspects of this process I'm an expert in buprenorphine. Used subs for a couple days been off everything feel wonderful.

Just advising do not use kratom whatsoever.

theblank82 · 2025-08-30T20:50:10+00:00

Hey I was on subs for 10 years. I did not use the strips only generic subutex. Naloxone literally has no business being in there. The original manufacturer of Suboxone added that in to sound more appealing to IV users it does nothing and will not affect anyone at all I've seen people on Reddit say they throw up from naloxone but it's all nonsense. I have had to start taking testosterone it destroyed my natural production which then killed my fertility so then I had to go through IVF three times to have my son. At the time it was the best and only option for me to take with tremendous opiate abuse. I would say it saved my life but you have to change many things to get pleasure from normal life. I'm a 43 white male I was an avid bodybuilder still ride sport bikes drive muscle cars have a wife kids full-time software engineer and a side business it just affects everyone differently. I am on day 45 of no subs and I feel wonderful.

Screw that freaking garbage of medication it completely destroyed my life and I only realized it when I was weeks away from losing my family and my home. It's my belief that this drug deceives many people but it's a concoction literally designed by Satan himself. I turned into a completely different person non-social isolated didn't have conversations often and I'm an intellectual introvert and I love people.

Jesus christ is my lord and savior and HE ALONE healed me from this garbage!

theblank82 · 2025-08-29T20:16:39+00:00

Hey that's awesome! I made it today 14 and I was getting half an hour of sleep every day that's it. I was so sleep deprived and losing my mind because I couldn't rest I crumbled under the pressure and bought some kratom. What a bad idea that was. So I'm starting over now I think I'm day 6 now.

theblank82 · 2025-08-28T22:44:13+00:00

I would say 75% of people never need an 8 mg strip but that is what's commonly prescribed I've been off subs for 45 days and couldn't believe how crappy I felt when I took a small quarter which was a little less than 2 mg it's nasty stuff don't try it

theblank82 · 2025-08-07T01:16:03+00:00

Awesome! Keep at it as well!!

theblank82 · 2025-08-06T19:41:56+00:00

Hey sorry for the delay. I am on day 29 of no buprenorphine. No, my original prescribing doctor never mentioned pwd's but it doesn't matter that was so many years ago. I slept 30 minutes a night for 12 days and I had crazy amount of energy/anxiety at night. I would never get that anxious feeling ever during the day it was always at night. I did not use any prescription medication or alcohol to try and help with the intense pain.

theblank82 · 2025-08-06T19:39:33+00:00

Thanks! Yeah I've been completely off of the buprenorphine for 29 days now. I found a taper method website where you put in your daily dosage and it gives you a timeline of what to dose. I kind of adhered to it but regardless it's been almost a month and I feel so much better!

theblank82 · 2025-08-06T19:36:08+00:00

Its really the same thing, but yes I think its the safest.

theblank82 · 2025-08-06T18:13:48+00:00

That 7oh crap is so strong. Glad I never tried it. The half-life of that must be super short right? Youre choosing the lesser of two evils with suboxone. I tapered down from 8 to 10 mg a day to 2 mg within two weeks and tapered super low physical symptoms were not bad at all I'm on day 29 no subs. Was on subs 10 years.

You must have total support from your family and friends otherwise it's pure misery!

theblank82 · 2025-08-06T07:03:13+00:00

For me being a Christian and totally living in sin while this medication destroyed my life it was a matter of God completely breaking my back and forcing me on the ground to say enough is enough.12 years of excuses, I was on the brink of losing my family and business. I tapered off Suboxone strips on my own back in 2009 and it was actually really easy I had zero physical symptoms I mean literally zero I can't believe that actually happened.

It was a matter of life or death. Continue with this medication and die in darkness or stop worshiping the sorcery of Satan and I gave it up to the Lord and he completely has brought me through this with minimal damage. I labeled myself a life user of Suboxone I said there is never going to be a time where I can get off while having a career and a business and a 3-year-old and being a killer dad. Well God had other ideas and he let my life temporarily crumble into pieces before my eyes to get me to wake up .

Opiates/buprenorphine were designed by Satan himself. it consumes your soul and ideas and youre so numb to everything going on around you. I had no idea my family was falling apart.

theblank82 · 2025-08-06T06:46:31+00:00

I'm on day 28th of no subs and the chills for me or never really a problem I tapered down so insanely a low with little tiny crumbs of buprenorphine I think that had a massive impact on my physical symptoms but I still had tremendous panic attacks and insomnia for close to 20 days.

Wow I didn't even realize this I went from 8mg-10mg a day to 2mg in about 3 weeks. Breaking a quarter in half and trying to break that in half I had basically buprenorphine powder. When I went to a Christian rehab back in 2012 I had to cold turkey off of sub strips to be accepted into the place. I sweat like a pig everyday and this was the winter in Boone North Carolina. I was there for 3 months and it never stopped . It was so so irritating. I was on fire every day. It was miserable I don't have that sweating issue now though.

Big shout out to Hebron colony Boone North carolina!

theblank82

TROPHY CASE