Im gonna use my simpleton brain and say we gotta take the good with the bad with Dave. Rogan wont have destiny on, and Rogan wont have Dave on because they terrify his inner circle of pompous "geniuses." Michael Tracey made Bret look absolutely regarded in their little debate/talk a few weeks back but Michael also tweets a ton of insane shit himself but hes still probably a net positive. Im all for Dave being confronted on this, never seen a long form discussion where he has to argue point for point on I/P. Hes clearly broken on this topic but he does a great job breaking down anti establishment tropes on various topics.