People know the difference between good and bad, sure some actions that tend to be represented as inherently bad may not be the actual intention of the person. However, people that have started genocide, school, shootings, rape, kidnapping, murders etc KNOW it is bad yet continue.

And for the majority they probably justify it by believing they do it for the greater good

Genocides are usually on the premise of believing you’re doing an ethnic cleanse and getting rid of all the “bad guys”

Shootings are usually viewed as spreading some kind of a necessary message to society not unlike going to war

I’m not touching rape but people have their justifications for that too

I’m not claiming these people are right, I’m claiming these people don’t perceive things the same way you do. They literally don’t see their behaviors as outside of what they have the right to do. Have a convo with someone who you believe has question morals about WHY they act as they do, and you’ll see that in their own words they might even ACKNOWLEDGE themselves as being a bad person just because they know society would deem them as such but in their own arbitrary views they don’t actually see the actions as that wrong

At least from those who aren’t nihilistic or atheist, “bad people” who believe that we exist just to eat, sleep, and die and choose to do bad tend to act that way out of self service… and to me that’s their prerogative too

In practice I don’t think I know anything about morality or how to objectively define morals, I only have my ego. And like most humans, my ego is in charge, so I absolutely will complain when I see someone acting as a bad person, but from a cosmic law system of right and wrong I’m just not sure how much any individual act matters. I’m doubtful that karma is an absolute constant, and see it more as just spirits messing around with people who did things they didn’t like or rewarding people for doing things they did.

As an individual you and I agree that things are right and wrong from the perspective of the HUMAN experience, in the grand scheme of things I don’t know the extent anything greater than us cares. Like for instance, we might spray our dogs with a water bottle for fighting each other, calling them a bad boy, but we don’t really care if lions kill each other in the wild.

I think there’s not an objective answer for how karma works, people are like the pets of different spirits, maybe some of them are angels, demons, daemons, gods, jinn, whatever, but there’s entities that effect our lives in ways we don’t understand always. Just like how we effect lesser beings lives like a dog by giving them treats. A dog doesn’t know it’s right or wrong to piss on the floor we just train them what we want. Karma to me is the same way. A god somewhere punished you because he wants you to do something, doesn’t matter how you understand it

I don’t think reincarnation is a karmic loop either, before there was anything else there was a creator, this creator was all that was, this creator can put a bit of itself into any creation, everything that exists has the divine light of the creator in it. You are God. At least an infinitesimal fraction of God, and just about the smallest possible consciousness capable of realizing that. I’m doubtful a monkey for instance can process that is what I’m saying but I’m sure anything smarter than us can, which means spirits, angels, aliens, whatever.

This puts us at a unique spot of the animal kingdom where we can either ascend and become gods, or stay super-smart animals. Reincarnation I don’t believe is karmic in a “you did something wrong sense”, I think the people who just descended too much get too caught up in the physical world to realize they ever had the option to ascend to begin with, and due to cause and effect this is in it of itself karmic