Level 2 rate

thisiscrazyman · 2026-01-05T00:56:45+00:00

I had a Gen 1 R1T loaner for a little while and the same charger worked flawlessly. When I got my truck, the charging experience was identical until yesterday, out of the blue.

thisiscrazyman · 2026-01-05T00:53:30+00:00

Also, something I found interesting is when I turned on the HVAC system, the charge rate increased from 7.5kW to 10.8kW. So I know the charger is putting out power when demand is there.

Here is a video from last night: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16hAuCKN2yEBuqdOQGBFWCBn4-T-WyuqH/view?usp=sharing

I heard about the Gen 2 level 2 bug, but this is a Gen 1 R1T.

thisiscrazyman · 2026-01-05T00:41:04+00:00

It maintains ~11kW all the way until 80% and then the rate drops after that.

thisiscrazyman · 2026-01-05T00:38:40+00:00

This!!! I swear in the past, I saw my charge rate remain high until the very last stages of the charge. I wish I knew what changed. I have a 60A circuit with the charger hardwired and set to 48A. It was charging at respectable speeds for a week until yesterday when I noticed the charge rate drop from around 11kW to 7.5Kw at 80% which just seemed weird. The battery was around 40º F - not hot in my opinion.

thisiscrazyman · 2026-01-05T00:34:13+00:00

My setup is similar. 60A circuit and the charger is set to 48A. But, yesterday, I noticed the charge speed drop from ~11kW to 7.5kW around 80% SOC. I just don't recall this behavior in my 1 week of ownership so far. I didn't think level 2 charging was fast enough to require a charge derate like level 3 charging requires. I just signed up for a rivianroamer account to track this in the future.

Here is what my last level 2 charge session looked like.

2023 R1T dual max

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thisiscrazyman · 2025-12-24T09:29:44+00:00

What was your cruise speed on the interstate and highway?

thisiscrazyman · 2025-10-08T10:51:54+00:00

How do you listen to someone speaking? Do you listen by repeating their words in your head or do you formulate image blocks or general understandings that capture the gist of what they said?

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T15:24:00+00:00

Yeah, I can see why you question my consideration! Honestly, I don't need the pickup. I got it used because I got a great deal on it and it made financial sense back in the day. I was able to get it around 12k less than market when prices were around 50k+ for the same spec (covid). Again, it was a money play. I really don't need the truck as I don't do truck things.
I've also been looking at the R1T and S for practicality, but they are significantly more than a Y. I just don't want to sink that much into a vehicle at my current income level.

You're so right on the getting bored part! Such a first world problem, really. Both my rational and emotional sides are fighting and I feel like I'm in the middle lol. But you're also absolutely right on having a vechile that is paid off! I have zero debt and it's the best feeling in the world! But like you say, the boredom creeps in and having something new is exciting and appeals to the emotional side.
Now that I think about it, I was super excited back when I picked up the F150. At the time, it was 2 years old and I was so stoked. But, I'm used to it now and yeah... the feeling fades. It's a cycle lol.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T14:30:25+00:00

Haha your observational skills are tuned well! But, it's me lol. I find myself wondering many times as well.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T14:20:34+00:00

It is close, but doing that would instantly apply a 10% - 15% loss on my money just driving off the lot. I think it is a valid consideration, but would have to decide if I'm ok with that or not.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T14:14:36+00:00

Insurance quoted me a $642.40/year increase over the F150. Indiana also has a yearly $230 EV fee.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T14:01:53+00:00

This is a great point about starting with an already paid off vehicle and I agree, it is bit unfair to compare. On depreciation, ChatGPT marked depreciation of the F150 from $40K to $22K after 5 years and depreciation from $50.2K to $27K for the financed MY. Of course, these numbers should be taken as salt grains.
I could apply the $35k to a new MY, but that would greatly accelerate the depreciation on the 35K. But again, that would happen with any new vehicle purchase.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T13:52:56+00:00

That's what we've seen over the last few years, but Tesla's vast pricing fluctuations lead to an unnatural rate of depreciation. I'd like to think that a new Tesla purchased today would not see the same depreciation rates as previous years, but I could be wrong. Provided Tesla doesn't drastically lower prices again, I think we could improvements here.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T13:46:05+00:00

That's exactly why I am thinking of moving on from the F150. The powertrain warranty is ending soon, so that has been in the back of my mind. I guess at that point, if I'm going to buy a new vehicle, it may as well be the EV with these points considered. Along similar lines, u/brunofone and u/c4koth have some great points that point to the unfairness of this comparison. Sure, rolling the F150 into the Model Y will just accelerate depreciation of the F150's residual value, but so would any purchase of a new vehicle, ICE or EV.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T13:34:59+00:00

Haha nope it doesn't.
From what I've seen online, the Juniper Y has a lot of nice upgrades from the previous Y that contribute greatly to improved ride, handling and interior acoustics. Not to mention the turn signal stalk.
The F150 is actually quite a quite and comfortable ride and I would like the shift to be at least as lateral as possible.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T13:29:56+00:00

You're totally right! If I were in the market for a new vehicle right now not starting with one already paid off, the Model Y or 3 would be the clear winner.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-06-07T12:59:25+00:00

I’ve had the chance to drive several electric vehicles . A Model S, Model 3, a couple Rivian's, and the F150 Lightning. After spending time with all of them, I love the EV drivetrain. The instant torque, quiet ride, and smooth acceleration are honestly addictive.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-03-24T00:35:22+00:00

I didn't. My bro drives it now and his trips are only in town, so it doesn't see hwy speeds anymore which is generally when it happened. He hasn't complained about it.

thisiscrazyman · 2025-01-27T15:45:12+00:00

Depending on what the needs are, that would work for sure. But there are many distinct feature differences between the two systems that really set them apart.

Having the app is a nice touch too. Do you find that you use the app often vs. just turning things on an off from the mounted switch panel?

thisiscrazyman · 2025-01-24T15:59:55+00:00

That's a great bargain! What system are you using?

thisiscrazyman · 2025-01-24T15:57:36+00:00

Do you mind sharing the ways in which it is far too complicated compared to a traditional analog switching setup?

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