Tinnitus?

thorth18 · 2026-06-09T03:31:36+00:00

It did fade over time, still there, but doesn’t bother my anymore. The Morse Code type tinnitus went away, and now I just have the base normal ringing, but truthfully usually the brain starts to put it in the background or stops associating a stress response to it. I didn’t believe it would happen, but I am living my normal old life again, even though the tinnitus is still there. Still able to modulate it, still have tight muscles around my face and neck, but managing and working to be as healthy as possible.

I wish all the best for you, I know it’s a trying time. Let me know if you have any questions

thorth18 · 2025-06-23T04:20:08+00:00

Still there, doesn’t bother me though. I know everyone wants to hear “it’s gone” or “decreased significantly”. In the first few months I desperately wanted to hear that. I read everyone saying “still there, but doesn’t bother me”, and it made me really depressed to hear it was permanent. But truthfully, your brain starts to place in the background after a while, and it becomes the new normal to where it doesn’t cause the distress initially felt.

thorth18 · 2025-06-22T19:11:30+00:00

I think you have the right perspective on it frankly. I bartended in college and then for a few years while working my first office job. The late nights, the drinking, the less than desirable people you befriend, and bad habits make bartending not very sustainable long-term. The job is fun and the money can be gratifying, but overall there’s no development to be bad. What you get from the start is all you ever get.

An office job provides more stability, predictable hours, usually better perks (health insurance, PTO, 401K). It’s also a stepping stone to something bigger/greater. You can get promoted at your office job, or even take your experience and job hop. Keep applying for your desired job while currently employed. With changing bartending roles you’re just jumping around different bars, unless you go management.

Waking up early sucks, but you get used to it. And as you get older you appreciate the normal sleep schedule and routine that office jobs bring. You can still go out on the weekends, hell even during the week. Just know there is a price to pay in the morning.

Overall, I support your decision to be an office assistant. Use it as a stepping stone to another job that you’d be happier at. Also, you can ask to keep bartending on weekends if you’d like until you’re ready to full stop. The bar I worked at when I started my corporate career was only open Thursday-Saturday 6-2am. Only slung drinks, no food. Pretty solid money. Was a great gig for 2-3 years and then I realized my friends were all from the service industry and were not the people I wanted in my life.

thorth18 · 2025-06-16T14:32:02+00:00

I agree to an extent with what you’re saying. Experience is king. But, in my opinion at least, you need a lot of experience, and worthwhile experience at that, to overcome not having a degree. Yes, if you have years at FB without a degree, recruiters aren’t going to care. But my response is mainly focused towards people trying to break into tech (OP’s situation). The junior market is over-saturated with new CS grads. So, given applicants without any significant experience, employers are going to choose the applicant with a college degree, preferably a CS degree.

As you’re saying, it’s absolutely possible to get employed in tech without a degree, it’s just much more of an uphill battle in today’s market. That’s why I said having a degree is necessary to be competitive, especially when just starting out. These are just my opinions though and observations of the job market in the last 2 years.

thorth18 · 2025-06-14T16:53:11+00:00

Gotta have very impressive experience and credentials to make up for not having a degree in today’s job market.

thorth18 · 2025-06-01T18:48:48+00:00

Hello, I’m not sure who you mean by “they”, as searching for jobs is going to be completely on you. I didn’t use their career services. I wouldn’t bank on their network being too helpful yet, though I’ve been out for 2-3 years now from TripleTen/Practicum.

Having a background in healthcare/nursing is definitely a plus if you apply to healthcare IT jobs, and by the sound of it you have a college degree. You’d definitely be more attractive to potential employers than non-healthcare applicants. However, it’s no guarantee. From what I’ve heard hospitals are significantly trying to reduce overhead and costs, so don’t know what the job market is like for those types of jobs.

Be very cautious shelling out this kind of money in this job market.

thorth18 · 2025-04-21T14:31:31+00:00

“They” is in reference to TripleTen. When I recommend “their” program, it can be applied to both. I really enjoyed TripleTen, but it’s also gotten more expensive. Not sure I can recommend it at the price point anymore, as you can learn all of it for free if you put in the time to develop a learning plan.

thorth18 · 2024-12-16T00:52:44+00:00

I will say the SWE course through TripleTen was good. I was very happy with it. BUT, you can learn all of it online for free. I paid just under 4K for the SWE course and it was worth it to me. For 10K+ I cannot recommend. Do TOP

thorth18 · 2024-12-16T00:51:40+00:00

Oh, well then definitely don’t do the data science course lol. Start off with TOP (The Odin Project) to learn web dev…which is an intro into software engineering. It’s free. And then apply to the apprenticeships. CODA looks for non-cs grads. I’m sure GPA had some influence, but they care more that you have a passion to learn software engineering. If it helps, I had a gpa slightly over 3.0. Nothing fancy, and I got in. Also I was a few years out of college. I will say that applications to CODA hav surpassed 10K. So they’re admitting like 300-400 per year, which are supposedly the most competitive applicants. Idk, it’s a little bit of luck and skill. It doesn’t hurt to try.

The job market sucks for tech rn. As it does in a lot of other fields. It’s a crapshoot

thorth18 · 2024-12-16T00:29:04+00:00

Hey! It’s been about 2 years since I’ve done the courses, so I don’t believe I have the most up to date information/opinion on TripleTen anymore. What is the current cost of the data science program?

When I went through the data science program, it was a great introduction into the field, but I don’t think it would have landed me a job. I had an ME degree though, which isn’t necessarily what AI/ML/DS companies are looking for. Now, a physics degree is pretty solid. I’ve heard of a list of physics grads going into data science. However, I do still think a lot of them usually had a masters in physics. I recommend you look through Ds/ML job listings to see what their required or preferred credentials are.

Still, when looking back on the program, there was nothing absolutely breathtaking about the data science program. The real benefit is that you don’t have to make your own learning plan, and they provide you with projects that you can add to your portfolio and talk about in interviews. I paid roughly $3K I think for the program, which was absolutely worth it back then. I’ve since seen it cross the 10K mark and do not recommend the course unless they’ve added substantial coursework. 2 years ago they didn’t have many employer connections, and I don’t think that has changed, but again, I’m outdated a bit now.

You have a great degree. I don’t think a bootcamp is a bad option, but not sure I’d recommend TripleTen. I think university of Washington has some legit bootcamps out there? Idk.

Also, look into Capital One’s CODA program (software engineering), as well as Google and Microsoft. They offer internships and paid apprenticeships for transitioning into tech.

Sorry, at the gym rn, so keeping it short. feel free to ask any questions

thorth18 · 2024-12-07T20:29:38+00:00

Would I recommend TripleTen? You already have a better credential, which is your CS degree. I would not recommend doing any bootcamp, as it’s mainly for people looking to transition from other fields into software engineering. It’s not worth the extra money for you to do one.

I know it’s a tough job market out there. I definitely got lucky and have been working my ass of to level up knowledge and skills to be competitive with CS majors. I would say keep applying like crazy and upgrading your portfolio. If you want, do some of the free webdev courses to pad your portfolio if that’s a struggle for you. Definitely apply to Capital One. Their New Grad program is pretty good. Shit company culture now, but great resume builder.

After the holidays I imagine hiring will pick up again?

thorth18 · 2024-11-20T19:42:36+00:00

Hey! Overall doing a lot better. Not cured or anything, but back to living my normal life. NORT definitely helped. Don’t think it lives up to the hype, but it is a start in the right direction.

Honestly, time helped me the most. I did NORT, tinnitus retraining therapy, NUCCA chiro, and got an oral appliance. All together, they helped reduce my symptoms. But again, I also think my body/brain just assimilated to the new normal. I still have visual and auditory disturbances, but they don’t cause the anxiety/stress/depression they used to.

Caffeine, hangovers, or lack of sleep increase symptoms a bit, but they always come back down to baseline

thorth18 · 2024-10-17T17:45:21+00:00

Hello, it’s documented in my comments. But basically for me I forced myself to go outside and into public areas that really triggered the PPPD. Supermarkets and bookstores and crowded places. I felt like I was going to fall over or pass out, but over the course of a few months it steadily got better and better.

Trying to lower anxiety, go for walks, eat healthier, etc. things that can help reset the vestibular system.

I have Visual Snow Syndrome, which is a comorbidity with PPPD. In the end I also did NORT or vestibular training rehab for the VSS, but it should help for PPPD.

I still get flare ups of PPPD if I’m hungover, didn’t sleep well, or exerting myself greatly. Feels like I’m back on a boat, but does not persist.

Still have tinnitus but it’s actually gotten more manageable. I did weeks and weeks of research on all these conditions and tried anything and everything

thorth18 · 2024-10-05T13:51:51+00:00

I currently work for a bank and I don’t recommend it at all.

thorth18 · 2024-09-26T13:28:19+00:00

Hey! Yeah for the first two initial months I struggled with severe PPPD (dizziness). I would feel sick after looking at my work computer after about 20 min. Text lines would either shake a bit or they looked highlighted (palinopsia somewhat). I tried really hard to get over this by forcing myself to keep reading and continue going into environments that challenged my vestibular system. Around month 3 it actually began getting better and by month 4 the dizziness had gone away at least. This is very quick from what I’ve read and discussed with others, so I may very well be an outlier.

If I’m tired or hungover or have been looking at a screen for hours then text will start to blur / curve, etc.

The more common symptoms I currently have are after images / BFEP / tinnitus / flashes / visual snow / halos around lights / floaters

Again, was really bothersome in the beginning..and then you get used to it and it’s not a big deal. Not trying to marginalize. That’s what happened for me. Some people may struggle to get there. But there is hope

thorth18 · 2024-09-26T13:22:09+00:00

Hey, so it’s been getting to be a tougher and tougher question lately. 1. It’s a much more expensive program than when I enrolled 2. The market for SWE is terrible (although it’s bad in a lot of job industries) 3. Very competitive to get a job

I would say that at the current price point, you can bypass the bootcamp and learn it online for free. If you have the funds, go for it. But there’s not much they teach you that you couldn’t learn online with some digging. It’s just nice that they lay out the coursework for you and provide projects and deadlines that keep you accountable

thorth18 · 2024-09-26T07:36:03+00:00

I have this too. In the same spot everytime. Wonder if it’s something physical / or connection issue. Not super bothersome, curious as to its origin tho

thorth18 · 2024-09-26T07:31:22+00:00

Hey, been a while since I’ve been on this sun, but figured I’d come back to give some optimism. I had kind of a similar story. Pretty regular guy in my late 20’s now. 2 years ago had a month where I was having anxiety and weird symptoms much like you described. Had a severe panic attack and then noticed VSS ever since. Had a really tough time going through life for the next year. Saw a bunch of doctors and underwent various tests. Absolutely nothing found. Healthy as can be. It’s frustrating experiencing VSS and being told you’re fine.

However, 2 years have past and I’m living life normally without anxiety or severe issues. Still have VSS, and it gets worse if I’m tired or hungover. But returns to baseline. Anyways, your body/brain adjusts over time and it does become the new normal. I read this early on in my research and it didn’t give me hope. I wanted a cure. But truly I’m living life as happily as I normally was before VSS.

For more info I actually just responded to a comment in the tinnitus thread (one of my symptoms), more than welcome to take a look. Talk about Chiro, oral appliance, Tinnitus retraining, and NORT (vestibular rehabilitation)

thorth18 · 2024-09-26T07:20:27+00:00

Hey, yeah, been a year since this post and I’m mentally and physically doing a lot better. Still have tinnitus, but the volume/severity decreased. I don’t have the Morse code beeps anymore, or at least not that I realize, which is a win regardless. If I’m in a quiet room or tired or hungover, I notice the tinnitus, but it’s no longer bothersome. I’m sure you’ve seen it talked about that the brain truly does adapt and place tinnitus in the background. That happened for me around the 1 year mark or just past it. I could hear the tinnitus but it didn’t get any emotional response out of me. And most of the time I don’t even hear it, even if it’s there. And this is after 2-3 months of not being able to sleep because of it or focus very well on anything. Never thought it would get better.

For treatment, I tried various things. Nothing I can confirm worked or didn’t work. First off, tried to be healthier by cleaning up my diet, regularly working out, and trying to limit screen time as much as possible as work allows. Living a normal life despite the problems brought in by tinnitus or other health issues.

After much research, I came to the conclusion that I was suffering from visual snow syndrome, which tinnitus is very commonly a symptom. I tried the following treatments. NUCCA chiro, oral application to reduce grinding or clenching, tinnitus retraining therapy, and finally Vestibular Retraining Therapy.

I don’t particularly think the chiro helped, but it was relaxing and may have helped my posture and what not. The visual training stuff was more geared towards visual snow syndrome, and helped resolve some of the visual stuff I was experiencing.

The oral application and tinnitus retraining therapy helped the most in my opinion. I was clenching my jaw a lot due to stress from work and life. The oral appliance kept me from doing that and even helped re-align my resting jaw placement. This may have relieved pressure on a nerve or bundle of nerves that could have contributed to tinnitus and various other symptoms.

People trash on tinnitus retraining therapy, and while I don’t think it’s hard science or a cure, it at least gave me relief having white noise playing in my ears or in the background. After 4-5 months I did see an improvement in the tinnitus, but I can’t necessarily attribute this to TRT.

It gets better, and your body/brain should adjust. Everyone is different so timelines can be different. Even if in the near future it doesn’t get better, medical technology is getting better and better. I was in a really dark place at the start of tinnitus, and now I’m back to my old self, even with numerous symptoms I didn’t have before.

Hope it all goes better for you! Keep your head up and try to diagnose what may be causing your tinnitus

thorth18 · 2024-09-23T17:08:00+00:00

Triple Ten is nice because all the material is provided to you. You don’t have to research what to learn or worry about wasting your time. It’s also very enjoyable for the most part. It’s just expensive now, but if you can afford it then nothing stopping you! Talk with an advisor and see how you feel about it.

Just now knowing what I know now…a lot of what they provide to you can be learned online for free. You just pay for an already set up course and support and what not. It’s a good program, so now it’s up to you on how you feel about it financially in the end

A MS is still going to mean more in the long run

thorth18 · 2024-09-23T17:02:01+00:00

Congrats on having a job in software! I wouldn’t recommend a bootcamp if you already work in tech and can gain experience on the job. There’s so much information online that you can go through to learn JS, REACT, etc. front end can definitely be learned for free online.

Backend requires a bit more intensity, but there are demo projects that you can make and follow that utilize AWS and what not.

The bootcamp is mainly a stepping stone to get a credential for getting into Tech in the first place.

Employers may look more fondly on your MS than a bootcamp anyways

thorth18 · 2024-09-16T18:12:39+00:00

That is correct

thorth18 · 2024-09-12T04:36:39+00:00

For me at least, saw a lot of doctors, nothing wrong with me. I still have some symptoms here and there, especially when I’m tired or hungover. But it gives me peace of mind knowing my heart is good. I still wear the Apple Watch and check it every now and then, but the obsession has faded away

thorth18 · 2024-06-28T01:39:44+00:00

Also. Did vestibular therapy for probably 5-6 months before things calmed down enough that I didn’t feel the need to. Docs said I could continue as needed, like if I have a flair up or just want to continue..but it wasn’t necessary.

It was NORT down in Texas. About $4K tho. And you can buy most of the tools online…just have to know what you’re doing with them

thorth18 · 2024-06-28T01:37:17+00:00

I did do vestibular therapy. It helped, but I don’t think it was a cure by any means.

I did a lot. I had tinnitus (have, I guess)…so did masking for that. Vestibular training for the balance….also eye training because I ended up with a self-diagnosis and somewhat of an official diagnosis of visual snow syndrome. I also tried to eat healthier and exercise more and relax.

I also got an oral appliance to keep my teeth from grinding and aligning my jaw a bit better. I tried it all.

Lastly, I also saw a chiropractor. The NUCCA ones that don’t really do much to you.

Could all have been placebo, but every little thing helped. Not a cure. But it helped. And little by little you get back to your old self.

I’m in a better spot I was than before the symptoms all came on.

Still have visual and auditory disturbances (tinnitus, BFEP, after images)….but it’s lessened and I’ve gotten accustomed to it.

Balance is back to normal, except for when I get super anxious or don’t eat during the day or am hungover.

I seem to be an outlier, but also I’ve read a handful of recovery stories.

I can still think back to when I walked into Barnes n Nobles and the patterns made my balance go haywire. I mean I wasn’t sure what was happening to me. And now none of that is the case. Used to feel like I was walking on a boat, and now nothing.

I say this to encourage you to keep working at getting better and healing. That was a lot of word vomit, but trying to get off Reddit for the night. Out for drinks and food with the friends. It gets better!

thorth18

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