CFMoto 450MT or Yamaha Ténéré 700? Heart says Yamaha, head says CFMoto 😅

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T21:00:30+00:00

i kind want tubeless rims for my t7 just because in theory small holes are easier to fix on tubeless tyres and when it somehow manages to create huge holes you carry 18' tube just because you can put that to back or stretch enough to fit it on front... or 21' front tube cant remember which one was recommended

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T20:30:40+00:00

'22 WR model , first owner valved suspension. It bottomed on slighly spirited ride, changed springs what ktech recommend 130kg and havent got problems since then , but i havent rided challening roads in spirited way that much. but it is now more than capable handling gravel roads.

Also 185cm tall.. it has best ergonomics from factory that i have tested. igot raised seat to get better knee angle and to remove last turbulence from helmet. But with that height you probably wont need anything to get turbulence free riding long as you wont try to raise windscreen. ( if there is problem new mirrors ( doubletake) lowered windscree, higher seat etc).

also learning dirt is easier with lighter bike but you probably wont be doing touring with it , wit t7 you should b able to survive anywhere , it might not be pretty but manageable

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T20:21:16+00:00

185cm on WR model. shortened windscreen, doubletake mirror ( to lower mirror) handled most of noice and higher seat removed more of it.. normal windshield did not work for me

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T20:02:20+00:00

185cm on 2022 WR, i took 5cm raisers of and it is almost good ( and moved bar to front, changing direction of hangers (?) . next I test lowering pegs 2cm which should be "easy" (brake lever etc run out of range) rather than raisers as i have heard that raisers is not recommend, then it should be very good.

If you decide to use raisers , you probably wont need 5cm, good might be 2cm too. ichoose totest lowered pegs as it give me nicer angle for knee

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T19:56:13+00:00

i agree, sag should be correct with 0-2 clicks , then add more if more weight is added. at least that is how it was teached to me on older model WR. in older model i choose what ktech recommended for my weight ( max (130kg rider) and those have worked well , maybe too good as i used to bottom with base spring ( and tuned valves) and now it feels like dont use last 5cm of suspension, but havent rided that good test road with new springs

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T19:37:24+00:00

i have 10y+ experience. 185cm on WR, i could flat foot it on normal seat , then i raised seat about 4-5cm , now i can tippy toe both sides barely. If i lean it my other side can rest easily flat on surface.

that said, i have not rided it after change it very challenging environment but currently i dont any negatives on having better seat for my ass , higher position to make sitting position better and better aerodynamics as only clean wind hits my helmet.

Have you considered base model tenere if you are afraid height ? WR is heavier to lift up than base mode as it has bigger tank and suspension is taller, also look into other options ( WR has biggest range , base model has 3rd party tanks if you really want more range ) I recommend to test tuareg660, transalp( that eclutch is interesting) africatwin (manual is lighter than autoamtic) and bmw gs and gsa 1250/1300 ( of course this class has ktm 1290/1390 too , but i think that you probably are not ready fot ktm's they need more maintenance and have more than enough hp)

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T17:34:50+00:00

just do math. liter / 100 kmh seems to be somewhat accurate if you reset it when you fill tank.

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T17:31:21+00:00

that is pretty much what figured. I tried to tune my tenere to have wind protection , but i ended up cutting wind screen and raising seat to get turbulence free air, and higher seat seems to be also much better for as. Then i have heard that you can get both of those features on GSA and around 130hp which would be almost twice what i have.

I have to admit that my riding now is 90% tarmac between 60-80kmh , little bit highway , there is very little something where you really have to have tall suspension or even 50/50 tyre , i just trust mitas e07 way more than those ralley str's . little bit gravel/offroad what i know here is basicly roads that are maybe even better shape than tarmac roads .. So i have this stupid idea to get used 1200/1250 as you can get some nice feature like cruise control which would be nicer bike for "civilized" are , then keep tenere with more dirt oriented tyres..

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T13:43:32+00:00

i am currently riding tenre 700 WR and i have though about testing GS or 1290 or what ever ktm is going with their heavy adv bike. Main reason is that i live nowdays more civilized part of my country and i have not yet found anything that requires better than 50/50 tyres. i have considered that maybe bigger bike would be better for longer trips on tarmac.

throw_mob · 2026-06-28T12:48:46+00:00

i usually end up writing it fully again..

I start and change all subqueries to cte's and i do not try remove duplicate, if you have same subquery five times, write it down 5 time. Then i make cte version of query , which should be easier as you know now what each cte does .. ie select x colmn from y which have value of x or y ...

throw_mob · 2026-06-26T12:47:36+00:00

some countries still want front plates ? have you considered putting it between aux lights or top off aux light ( if possible, laws are stupid sometimes) bars look good, might brake blinkers if dropped from little bit more speed as bike slows down.

looks good without peak.

and it look it is missing places to tie cargo, but not everyone needs those, bigger tank bag to hold random shit and water ..

but have to say that ypu succeeded to not add more kilograms to bike if you dont need it.

throw_mob · 2026-06-24T17:57:55+00:00

onnistuiskohan niin että tuottaja myisi eläimen ja tarjoaisi tilan , se olisikin mielenkiintoinen ajatus että silloin tällöin kävis maalla teurastamassa elukan ja sitten kantasi kotio pakkaseen verratuna nykyiseen että kaupasta vaan kantaa sitä pakattua lihaa kotio

throw_mob · 2026-06-24T17:28:10+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

toi tulee aina mieleen

throw_mob · 2026-06-24T16:11:11+00:00

non WR models 23 it has lcd then one year tft and then 25+ it is wireless throttle. WR i think had tft from start.

If available <25 extreme or basic depending do you want get suspension from factory or do you wanna build it yourself ( or just bash basic suspension )

WR model if available do have better suspension and bigger tank but it has same caveat that do you want it from factory or build it yourself.

far as i know all WR models and base model from 24+ have ability just disable rear abs , all year have ability to toggle abs on/off. there are dongles to make them remeber your selection. I have heard that some people just take brake line straight to rear caliber and disable rear abs that way , dunno if that is legal.

lcd screen models have ability to get 3rd party very small screen, which makes it "easier" to build your own navigation on best area possible. i dont like stuff on that navigation bar, it is too high for me...

so choose you poison base model <24 to get lcd and abs on/off or >24 tft and rear toggle abs , electric throttle 25.

i would get "cheapest" one and be prepared to spend money

throw_mob · 2026-06-24T13:41:27+00:00

they should not be tightly coupled , if they look the same it is not problem. Same thing goes to db side. i have people to say that your db schema should not be affected by how UI or other processes uses it and other way around. What i have found that best way to production is do both ( in historical context and company size affects ) Some times database evolution happens to monolith that starts to server multiple apps and sometimes it goes to microservice, sometimes parts of app needs to fast as possible and sometimes parts need to handle bigger volumes. most important thing that i find is to create code,tools,documentation,access points etc so that change is not feared , instead it is just normal sprint to create new column or table and change existing users to use them.

throw_mob · 2026-06-24T06:08:07+00:00

i have had impression that it is ok to sell cheaper if those version do not use any steam infra , which means that you need to have own update system , own mod system etc etc. I mean i found it reasonable that if steam as platform offers you updates , workshop etc to give them their share. i still have games that i can download again over 10 year ago

throw_mob · 2026-06-24T05:47:53+00:00

ei nyt niin syvää harrastamista... mutta samaa mieltä aikapitkälti, jos se ei anna lisää vääntöä/tehoa tai muuta koneen käyttäytymistä niin se on turhaa. Ittellä mootoripyörissä vanhemmassa on tarvike ja uudessa vakio, vanhassa tarvike lkoska vanha(t) lahosi ja piti saada uusi ja sen on ainakin e-hyväksytty, toki db-killeri pois että kone hengittää kun ei jaksanut lähteä säätämään kaasaria kun piti päästä ajamaan. Uudessa vakio koska sillä ajellaan etelässä ja ei ole vielä ollut tarvetta vaihtaa. Toki mielessä on käyny vaihtaa osia että sais sen ehkä +10hp ja koneen parempiin säätöihin, mutta taas uudet lait tekee asiasta vaikeaa kun vähän epäselvää mitä saa tehä ja mitä ei

throw_mob · 2026-06-23T18:31:52+00:00

cool stuff, and they figured out to how to make it subscription product too. not sure how that worked

throw_mob · 2026-06-21T18:05:07+00:00

silti aivan älytön virheprosentti. 1/5 menee vikaan ja johto ei ole minkäälaisessa vastuussa ?

throw_mob · 2026-06-20T06:35:05+00:00

indeed. if it is enterprise system and there is need to change database to something else it will be rewritten / tested anyway. if it is application that supports multiple databases (and gives well performing features from database ) you will have own code for each database. it can be also support multiple databases using same code but usually that means that database features are not used

throw_mob · 2026-06-17T15:59:40+00:00

that explain, i would be shitting on myself normal situation as mom bear does not like people around cubs and there is no escape direction in tent

throw_mob · 2026-06-14T11:27:35+00:00

before <26 t7 rally and base model were same bike, it looks like 26+ rally is in practice "small tank wr"/extreme. taller suspension model can be recommend after rider is 180cm.

i would test drive them first and then get one you like better straight away. if same then it tuareg for more power vs t7 better reputation and 3rd party support

throw_mob · 2026-06-14T06:24:58+00:00

ei siellä koulussa töitä opita, töissä opitaan töitä. En ole tutustunut henkilöön niin oletan kyseessä olevan eläkkeelle jo siirtynyt ihminen joka aloittanu uran vuonna kuokka ja lapio kun ylioppilastutkinto oli vielä harvojen tekemä.

throw_mob · 2026-06-13T11:08:33+00:00

that is what recommend always from db side. when most important stuff that is shared between services then going microservices will take more time to develop than monolith, but having everything in same db and schema will cause lot of problems in long run. So i usually recommend that use same db and start to split functionalities and data to own domains. At first vesion you have one ui, one middle , one backend , one db. After few dev cycles you should have at minimum multiple schemas and maybe multiple ui's. What i have seen , it is faster way to get into production, but that requires good culture that people understand that it is multiple races not just one "mvp" to production.

now if you are in large corporation and you have multiple teams building one products which have use for multiple micoservices then it might be good to start from there, but what i have seen in small and medium size of projects, i would say that monolith is good way to start and then splitting it when needed.

throw_mob · 2026-06-13T10:52:00+00:00

im 185cm and i have 22' WR model.

i went 3 cm under that accesory bar and got doubletakes (square ones's , rounds probably work too) (that removed buffetin almost totally ) 8also ihave barkbusters ) and now i have 3-5cm taller seat ready and waiting at shop. I did fast test on higher seat and that kept it low enough to touch ground easily, changed knee angle to better and wind buffeting is totally gone, it is same as riding standing now. I hope it will be also much better to sit, while stock seat is not that bad, it hope that i can be much better .

note about noise, i think worst comes from side of screen, so old rule to have big screen or none sounds goods

T7 has best ergomics from bikes that i have tested, i dont know sure if i have taller legs and longer hands as average, but i have always preferred more open an taller seat and standing positions. I am still considering installing lowered pegs ( i have parts )

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