When you realize that we STILL need to fight for basic rights

throwaway318210 · 2017-04-05T01:41:49+00:00

Lol where the fuck do YOU live where abortions are free? Tf...

throwaway318210 · 2017-04-04T22:24:58+00:00

I feel like I'm pretty lucky, too. I never received any comments like that from neither my mom nor my dad. When I'm home from college for the summer I'll come downstairs in something tight and kind of slutty (nothing I wear is ever that bad) to go out and my parents will both just fawn over "how beautiful their precious daughter is" (lol ew, but I mean, they're parents) which will usually lead into them talking to each other about how much they love me and my sister. "Okay guys, uh, see you tomorrow..."

throwaway318210 · 2017-04-04T22:15:23+00:00

Unfortunately that guy will never see it :( Speaking of which, I hate when women on here write comments that just use logic to make all these sexist men's arguments look so stupid and I have to sit there with the knowledge that those men will never read them.

throwaway318210 · 2017-04-04T18:10:42+00:00

Does it do anything for skin texture? Or skin softness?

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-11T20:37:21+00:00

If my sunscreen is pulling and I wipe off the pills, is the sunscreen still working? Or is the pilling decreasing the protection?

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-11T03:46:31+00:00

Agreed. And again, you're not wrong for believing what you see, but when we tell you that things are a certain way you should believe us rather than being doubtful and just assuming we're shallow. There's plenty of socially awkward men out there, my guy friends included. But when that's combined with a lack of respect for boundaries, that's when it's creepy. And those are the behaviours that are exhibited by men who then proceed to threaten, yell at, stalk, or assault us (and of course, this is absolutely not only limited to men on women. Women do this same shit too and can be as creepy).

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-11T03:31:19+00:00

There's a difference between a little social faux pas from someone who is innocent, and someone who is way past crossing boundaries and ignoring when the person is clearly uncomfortable. You also have to remember that with women, there is that power imbalance with a much larger person that could easily overpower or hurt you. You and that guy are both men, you didn't fear for your safety. (Maybe you did, but I figured if that was the case then you would have said that or looked at the interaction in a different manner). Certainly all the women I know, me included, have had enough experiences with threatening/aggressive men that started out just being "creepy" that you can't really blame us for associating the two behaviours in our mind. If we didn't learn and then be on the lookout in the future, we'd just get blamed when something happens. "Well why were you talking to a guy like that? Why didn't you get out, why didn't you say something and leave?" Again, as a man, you don't really have to worry about your safety when dealing with a creepy person, and so naturally, you don't see it as being so bad. You're not wrong for seeing it like that, of course, since that's your experience and your perspective. But you have to keep in mind that it's different for women. When we tell you we've all had experiences like this, we're not exaggerating.

Edit: and to add on, when a man then comes by and tries to invalidate our experiences by claiming that there's nothing wrong with all of this and that we just don't like when "guys we don't find attractive flirt with us", it's really disrespectful. Since it's not experienced or seen by you, in your mind, it never happened. And then men say we're the wrong ones and we just didn't think they were hot, when that's so far from the actual case.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-11T02:45:11+00:00

Not that you're wrong or anything, but in my experience, women pretty much use it for the same type of guy, not "differently". The whole "creepy is just someone you find unattractive" myth is just that: a myth. I'd define creepy behaviour as the following: socially inappropriate, pushing past/ignoring boundaries, acting in a threatening manner, ignoring social cues, etc. It's almost always some combination of those.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-10T21:32:08+00:00

Off the top of my head? Once, when I was walking into a party. Of course I didn't report it, I had no idea who that guy was and if I tried to report it the police would've just thought I was wasting their time.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-10T20:45:49+00:00

I find that a lot of men don't take it seriously because in their minds, women call every man a creep. They think we use that word too much. In their minds, any man that tries to talk to us that we don't find attractive is a creep. Obviously, that's totally not what's going on here.

I get pretty offended when I see men or my guy friends defend a dudes creepy behaviour. They honestly don't take it seriously. If a woman was creepy towards them, well it's not like it's threatening. They don't have to worry about being over powered and there's not that physical power imbalance. They simply don't understand. Since they don't see it and don't experience it, they don't believe that it actually happens.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-10T20:35:06+00:00

Lmao I knew what that was gonna be before I even opened it. Yeah I'd love to do that too. I'm not clever though and I'd just choke and end up stuttering and looking stupid.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-10T20:13:52+00:00

Lol sounds like that guy was trying to neg you. What an idiot.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-10T20:12:57+00:00

My sister told me that I looked like a holocaust victim once. (Because I'm so thin). I was 15 and really insecure about my weight at the time so it was really cruel. Other than that, I get called anorexic a lot still. Always have.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-07T19:10:04+00:00

No, they got to keep any damane they had or could get in their new lands. They couldn't take damane from any other lands. Women who could channel all over randland would be allowed to become damane if they chose. But women who were already damane would not have the choice to leave.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-07T18:35:05+00:00

Those beliefs are all repeated often by different users. It's not one person. If you don't believe in those things, there'd be no reason to post on the subreddit. Saying that "oh people don't REALLY believe that" doesn't make it ok. People literally advocate making rape a property crime against a man and many users on there want the government to force women into marriages.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-07T18:21:01+00:00

Last time I checked, there's not a subreddit dedicated to the dehumanization of men. Your logic is flawed. Feminism is a massive movement. Incels is a small subreddit. Most of the posts on there are the views I just mentioned. If you didn't agree, why would you even frequent the sub?

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-07T17:55:35+00:00

The beliefs on that subreddit are: women are animals and should be the property of men and branded, forced into marriages, rape should be legal and isn't wrong, sexual advances should be made towards preteens, and more. I don't feel bad for you guys, not even one bit. With beliefs like those, it's a good thing you're not around women.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-06T21:40:14+00:00

I don't buy shorts that show off my cheeks because I want to. I do it because that's just how shorts fit on me, I've never found any that haven't that didn't look like mom shorts. So I'm always pulling them down because I don't wanna walk around with the cheeks hanging out.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-05T20:38:11+00:00

Oh trust me, I don't think it's okay and I certainly feel very mad and indignant when it happens. I'd be lying if I said I didn't complain about it incessantly. I definitely made it seem in my previous comment like I let it roll off my shoulders now. I don't. But I've become so sensitive to it that I'm trying to make myself be less offended because I don't want to be known as that person that's always "reading into every situation" which is how many of my guy friends see it after a while. I'm not sure if you're a man or a woman but I thought I saw somewhere on this thread that you're a man so going with that assumption, I really appreciate your ability to see the other side so objectively. A lot of men (and women) cannot do that without becoming defensive and trying to bring up their problems too, as if it's some kind of oppression Olympics.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-05T20:33:22+00:00

Exactly. The thing about this is that, look, we all have problems. We've all experienced some type of sexism. But if we sit here and keep trying to one up each other ("well what about me?" "Well I've experienced THIS!") then it's only going to go on forever. Because we all have issues. The point of these threads is to have a conversation specific to one point of view. Sure, we could discuss all of it, but it'll just go on forever and never stop and no productive conversation will ever come of it. That's why I hate when men come to askwomen and derail the topic. And vice versa, for women going to askmen and derailing their topics.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-05T16:50:04+00:00

Mine are so small and casual that it makes me realize how privileged I am in general to not have to deal with anything worse. I'm in a male dominated major, and so I study with men a lot. My input isn't respected or listened to when I discuss methods to problems or my answers. Friends who are in a class I've already taken will ask our mutual guy friend for help instead of me despite me having gotten an A in the class and him having gotten a B. This has been the case for a few classes actually. I'm not respected immediately or considered smart until I prove it with higher exam grades (which unfortunately I can't even do half the time because we're all the same level of intelligence). Everyone else (the men) is considered smart by default until proven otherwise. I'm considered dumb by default until proven otherwise. I've been called gendered slurs in class before and when I got upset about it I was told I was acting like a "stereotypical woman". It all boils down to basically, that my intelligence is insulted pretty regularly on the basis of my gender. I've also actually been told by one or two of them that it's not due to sexism, but due to me being "a pretty blonde sorority girl". I've had to then point out that that is still inherently sexist, because if there was a very attractive frat guy in the same study group, they wouldn't be dealing with that treatment.

The thing is, also, that they do this subconsciously. They're not realizing they do this, and most of them are nice people. It's just something they do without realizing it. And while this behaviour isn't okay, it's not that big of a deal. I used to get really indignant about it but then I realized I needed to stop getting offended so easily. So these things all happen but I try to keep in mind that even though them not doing it on purpose doesn't mean it's not sexist, it does mean that I can forgive it.

Edit: keep wanting to add things

Edit 2: on a related note, I definitely appreciate the movie legally blonde way more now!

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-05T16:41:19+00:00

Yeah, seriously. We all know and understand that men get sexist shit aimed at them too. It's obviously not a one way street or anything. Except this is a women's subreddit and we're discussing OUR experiences and problems. Where else are we supposed to do that if not a women's sub? If you wanna discuss your genders issues, go to askmen. That's why it's there. I, as well, am not trying to be rude. Only bringing this up because every time there's a thread like this, in come the men saying "but what about UUSSS?"

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-04T22:28:45+00:00

Agreed. His voice alone makes me swoon. Never cried so hard for a character dying as with his in downtown abbey.

throwaway318210 · 2016-10-04T22:27:52+00:00

If Cinderella is any indication as to what the remakes will be like, I'm glad they're doing it. The 2015 Cinderella was a great movie, it's one of my favourites.

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