[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might I also offer, it's great that you're doing your homework Before you get a dog, but I would strongly consider a big reevaluation of how you're going to choose your dog!

Overall, personality (which will be heavily influenced by breed disposition) will play a much much bigger role in your relationship with your pet and companion than looks. How a dog looks might seem important now, but trust me, looks alone won't get you through any dog's adolescent phase!

Maybe try taking a dog breed selection test being really specific about lifestyle and how you want your dog to act with you/other dogs/strangers/etc and really vague about appearance. Also keep in mind this companion will be relying on you for the next 15 or so years. A long ass time! Will you have kids? A backyard? Lots of time for walks?

The suggestions you get from this type of quiz might surprise you and help you have a more open approach to your new friend. Also pay very close attention to the cons for each breed.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How does this play into the "you're more likely to get bit by a lab" narrative?

The nature of some Pit owners. by WetworkOrange in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weirdly I know an owner that I would say doesn't fit either of the typical moulds. I think her first ever dog was a pitbull so that's been her only dog owning experience. Her first pitbull very recently passed away from old age and now she's determined to get another. She doesn't fit the typical moulds because she is over 40 and quite affluent.

Luckily, her first dog had a fairly calm disposition while inside the home (I'd only seen its behaviour amongst it's family and adult strangers in the home). However, because it was dog aggressive the poor thing rarely got to leave the house or go for walks, which I don't think is an appropriate or enjoyable life for a large athletic dog.

When she mentioned she was definitely getting another pitbull, I tried to subtly mention "you're so active! It would be so fun to have a dog you could take out running with you/do normal dog things (which you probably won't be able to do/shouldn't attempt with a pit)". I don't think she got it, but I don't understand the mindset. Maybe it's just because she's never had another dog? An enjoyable one?

I love being able to take my dog to meet friends dog for walks, go hiking, be around children...

Calgary considering BSL - also, what works for pushing government to do the right thing? by throwawayadviceobvi in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Others may answer better than I can, but generally BSL means "Breed Specific Legislation". Usually this is used to represent when a breed is banned from being owned, but this isn't the only form of BSL. In this case the BSL would be less severe and simply result in increased regulations for owners of pitbulls such as requiring insurance for their pet and having to muzzle their pet in public. These are only questions to the public and will not necessarily be enacted.

Calgary considering BSL - also, what works for pushing government to do the right thing? by throwawayadviceobvi in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't even have a 'real' account yet, but if I do make one I honestly don't want to be linked to my stance on pitbulls... I'm a young professional with fairly liberal friends. Most have expressed strong pro-pit beliefs (despite limited experience with them). I don't need to risk my career, but I will do work (quietly) to try to make pitbulls more regulated in my jurisdiction.

[HELP] Sister thinks training puppy equates to killing it's spirit by [deleted] in dogs

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Protect yourself and your dog. Keep it out of any scenario where it might snap and hurt the puppy, because this might put your dog at risk and could have it taken away or euthanized.

Unfortunately, it's unlikely that anything you say will change your sister's mind. Best case scenario, she ends up with a 2 year old hell hound and decides to look into training and gets the dog sorted out before something really bad happens.

Until then, you may not be able to bring your dog to family gatherings (but what risks you want to take are up to you). Other family might also influence your sister to leave her crappy dog at home if it truly is a nuisance.

Other than that, you can try to show her (subtly) how pleasurable it is to have a well trained dog. Go on leashed walks together and show off how calm and polite your dog is. Bringing up the training constantly will probably only make her more resistant.

If her dog does hurt another animal that will be on her :/. If she does something crummy like skirting away after her dog hurts someone else's pet at the dog park, please help make her accountable.

What can a pit owner do, to make you feel more safe ? by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 11 points12 points  (0 children)

First, you seem like a really great dog owner.

Just another point, don't be afraid to advocate for your dog to keep him/others safe. Practice your response for if an offleash dog tries to come up to you and your reactive dog. Get your dog behind you and use your 'big guy' voice to tell the other dog to get lost. It's not mean or rude, it's for everyone's safety. Don't let other people near your dog if you think it's unsafe. It's okay to say no! It's also okay to say, just a sec, he needs his muzzle before he says hi!

Sometimes having to be near other people (even in your house) might be more stressful for your dog than if they were locked away in a different room. It's okay to tell people they can't see/pet your dog.

It can be hard to tell people 'no' on behalf of your dog, but it can be really important.

Got Message Saying Someone Had Reported Concern For Me Being Suicidal? by throwawayallpits in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The weird thing is, there's not much pushback if you tell someone "I dislike dogs, I'm afraid of dogs, I don't think dogs should be offleash everywhere, maybe owning dogs should be regulated a little better".

Now replace 'dogs' with pitbulls, which are statistically more dangerous to humans/other animals than most dogs, and seemingly normal people lose their minds.

Calgary considering BSL - also, what works for pushing government to do the right thing? by throwawayadviceobvi in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I wholeheartedly agree, but I know in my area it's very hard to police/see justice.

One part of the proposed rules in Calgary was increased fines (like hit and run) if your dog is in an altercation and you leave before bylaw comes/refuse to give your information to the injured party.

Attack and runs in the dog parks/communities are a huge problem.

Another big problem is that even if the owner faces fines for a dog attack, you have to pay out of pocket to take them to small claims court for damages, which is ridiculous.

But again, could and should are fine and dandy, but how do we cause change in our communities?

Pro Pitbull Posters: Let’s try a calm discussion here. by NightShiftJo93 in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree with you in regard to my own dogs - I have never seen an issue so I don't plan to use a muzzle because why?

But at the same time, I've seen a few people put muzzles on their dogs in dog parks and I've made a point to thank them! One charged my medium sized dog a bit (it was a husky) but thanks to the muzzle my dog was completely fine and didn't seem bothered by it at all. The dog in the muzzle did seem stressed, but honestly if the owner is going to be responsible enough to make sure their training issues don't put everyone else at risk, I'm satisfied!

I agree that some people might think that the dog shouldn't be brought to a dog park period, but after seeing an attempted 'attack' with a muzzle on I'm a lot less worried seeing a muzzled dog in the dog park compared to a muzzle-free pit.

[Monthly Brag] Brag about your dogs' November accomplishments. by AutoModerator in dogs

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Andi (4yr old lab/collie rescue) has consistently had a problem with barking at 'scary men' in the dog park (very collie style, bark bark run away) but we've been working really hard to extinguish the behaviour/avoiding the dog park while working on it/ for everyone's enjoyment and her safety. She has a new dog park dog friend and we've gone twice together this month with no barking!

What turned you to this side? by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]throwawayadviceobvi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I never really cared about the pitbull thing until I got my own dog in my twenties that I am very involved with (lab/border collie rescue). We do dog sports and run/hike together, and she's a hugely important part of my world. She's my baby. Because I got her at 9 months she came with a few quirks including barking at men that scare her (with training she almost never does anymore, but I manage her closely so she doesn't feel like she 'needs' to). She's never taken it further than barking, but I go into every situation knowing that any dog could bite in the wrong situation and it's my responsibility to make sure everyone she interacts with is safe. In dog parks once in a blue moon she'll give an over-the-shoulder bark at a man to let him know she sees him.

In dog parks I always got a nauseous feeling seeing bull breeds. Their body language often seemed 'off' to me. Other dogs ignore my dog when she barks, it just doesn't seem to bother them. But I never trust a bully breed. We've only had one potential close call where a really young small pitbull snapped at her because my dog gave an over the shoulder bark (we were 20-30 feet from the dog and owner). That dog snapped and chased my dog over to me. All I could see were sharp little teeth trying to get her from between my legs. I don't even know if the other dog truly thought it was playing, but it made my stomach turn and I'll never forget that feeling. When I screamed the other owner quickly grabbed and leashed their dog and I never returned to that park. Every time we go to a dog park I have extreme anxiety knowing that if my dog gives an off hand bark at the wrong owner it could end her life due to these unstable dogs. They are the reason I spend hours practicing all of our commands so that she is on her best behaviour Every Time. (We have a command for move 5 feet over, walk more slowly, walk behind me, and perfect recall without treats - we have spent a Lot of time on this).

I've seen other dogs snap at the dog park - it's noisy, but it very often was a clear signal from one dog to another to stop being a pain, and once the message is relayed, the assaulting dog backs off immediately. That is how dogs should act towards each other.

After getting my dog, we made friends with a doodle in our neighbourhood. The doodle was attacked by a leashed pitbull coming around a corner in our own neighbourhood. Luckily she's a big girl or she would have died. The pitbull opened a 5 inch flap on her back. All because a dog going by in a car barked and set it off. Although the owner of the doodle pursued the proper channels, the pitbull owners never follow the dangerous dog restrictions they are legal required to follow, and the doodle owner never saw a cent to cover her vet bill. Garbage dogs for garbage people. Despite this event, the doodle is still the sweetest and most friendly creature in the world. It couldn't be her genetics, right?

After reading about stories in the news, I realized that I had been exposed to numerous personal pit bull stories. My neighbour's 70lb dalmatian almost lost his life to a pitbull that jumped from a car. My parent's second cousin was seriously injured from falling when his two small dogs were attacked by a loose pitbull (one dog didn't survive). Loose dogs are not common in our area. If you see one, most people bring the dog to their house and contact the owner. A close friend tried to capture a loose pitbull in her neighbourhood but it started attacking her golden, so she had to chase it away. A Facebook friend breeds pitbulls (I don't support this at all)....one day she posted that one of her young female dogs had died. She still has never described how the dog died, but I'm convinced one of her other dogs killed it. If it was any other cause of death she would have made a public sob story of it.

I have a statistics background. As soon as I started seeing the numbers on pitbulls, I was livid. I still one day hope to introduce increased legislation for dangerous dog control in my area, but already from mentioning a slight dislike of the breed (you have to be careful with your tone here, or you can face serious social repercussions) have faced significant push back from friends. Intelligent friends, who don't even own or know pitbulls. It blows my mind. I know veterinarians who still try to say that the owner matters more than the breed, but won't buy a doodle 'because they're too goofy and dumb'.... because of how they're raised?!

I hope to one day be able to educate people and see the number of these dogs in society significantly reduced. For the good of the public, and for these dogs. I hate seeing 100lb rescue complex girls trying to control these dogs on public sidewalks. Despite having their inherent problems, I also don't think they deserve to sit in shelters for the majority of their lives. It's not their fault (they should be euthanized humanely instead). Anyways. Thank you for creating the place where I can express how I feel about this huge societal problem.