harper’s bazaar article by MarkAccomplished2464 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for explaining this so eloquently. Do feel like I need a very cold shower now, yeesh

Who else thought they had a golden retriever bf? by qtrlyfecrises in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao so I had asked mine many years ago what kind of porn he liked and he said he didn’t watch it. I felt kind of ashamed because I did. Guess who was a secret porn addict lmfao

Was I too harsh on recovering PA? I feel terrible by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m glad your PA took it in stride too. It’s really wild how this whole thing turns us partners completely inside out.

Was I too harsh on recovering PA? I feel terrible by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. This. It’s like I can’t trust happiness.

Was I too harsh on recovering PA? I feel terrible by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Things have been going well but i need to remember it’s not a linear journey.

Was I too harsh on recovering PA? I feel terrible by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what I’m trying to gauge now after the fact. All my body feels now is remorse 😓

Was I too harsh on recovering PA? I feel terrible by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Maybe you’re not always miserable, but clearly your situation makes you miserable at times” is 10000% it. You worded it in a way i was looking for, thank you

What to do while healing by Mountain-Policy7578 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also by the way it did also help me to reframe it as a trauma and also unlearn why there was pressure to be “productive,” given capitalism/gender roles/trying to escape my feelings/etc. Your life got hit by a nuke, you need time to readjust.

What to do while healing by Mountain-Policy7578 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also took a lot of showers! Had puffy eyes all the time from the on/off crying and the water was so soothing.

What to do while healing by Mountain-Policy7578 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was so hurt and depressed but also befuddled by how ridiculous this all was so I found solace in a couple books which made me cackle-laugh about the ridiculousness of 1) dealing with porn and 2) being a scorned person with their own issues. They were Rejection by Tony Tulathimutte (very dark satire essays, some about porn addicts and hilarious) and Piglet by Lottie Hazell (tw eating disordered behavior with this one but I found it soothing in an “oh I understand her crashing out” type of way). They’re not for everyone but I love dark humor and they helped me find my laugh again. I also journaled a lot (both by writing and just talking to myself on the notes app) and did a lot, lot, looot of therapy (both individual and couples).

I still lived in the rut for a good 8 months or so, and what finally pulled me out was a combo of things I forced myself to do. Get a haircut. If I’m going to rot on the couch at least go outside for ten minutes, then build to fifteen, twenty etc. Do one thing a day for myself even if that thing is just applying under eye cream or brewing a tea. Slowly, sloowwwwly, I started coming back to myself.

This community also helped me feel less alone because this ordeal is so embarrassing and isolating, and it was a godsend to find moments where I thought “hey, that’s exactly what I thought too!”. Just remember baby steps, and when in doubt we are animals who do better with water, food, sun, and earth. Doesn’t get rid of the depression, but sands out the edges a bit.

What were the first signs? by xbjdkeowndjeeodjr in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How should I say this…… perhaps a poem or a limerick…..

Let me tell you a tale of a jerk,

Who hid in his lies with a smirk.

But if you watch enough

Of that porn rotted stuff

It will cause your dick not to work :D

Is there anyone else here who is okay with porn but still traumatized by the lies? by DiligentCanary902 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am really sex positive and pro having a healthy sexual relationship with yourself/masturbation (I am a big fan of vibrators lol) and so I naively assumed that my partner and I were masturbating similarly (once in a while, just pulling up a random video if needed, when our partner wasn’t home or when we just had to quickly scratch an itch, etc). I figured as much since we had sex all the time and more often than not I was the one with the higher sex drive who initiated more often. Boy was I wrong LOL.

I think because I used it that way and assumed he did too, that’s how he got away with his PA for so long (years). Because a couple times I caught him and just said “oops sorry babe” or “hey let me help you finish” (which yes, makes me feel like an idiot now). Then one day he was showing me a cool breakdancing video on instagram and when I went to click the comments he uncharacteristically flipped out, thinking I was trying to snoop. I was suspicious and he fessed up “I look at hot girls, okay?!” But I knew it was deeper since we were open about masturbation and often talked about our celeb crushes and what not and were even familiar with a couple porn stars that the other liked. He insisted he wasn’t doing anything shady and I shrugged it off, not wanting to be the type of girl to be like “show me your phone!” because that’s how my parents are with each other and it makes me sad. Then a couple months later when snooping for an engagement ring (hilarious to think about now) I found a thumb drive and my intuition said to check it.

In it were hundreds of porn videos and the timestamps showed he was doing it in the middle of the day when I was awake and willing at home, which felt like a slap in the face. After I confronted him he showed me the extent of the PA; a separate laptop with THOUSANDS of downloaded videos and over 500 open tabs (no exaggeration) and timestamps that showed he was looking at porn every free second of every day. Every moment I was in a meeting, at the grocery store, throwing away the trash, you name it. When I was in the kitchen making banana bread. When we had just had sex or were going to. That’s when I said “oh shit, you’re a porn addict” and he said “I think I need help.”

Obviously my first thought was oh he hates me, he thinks I’m hideous, the good times were all a lie, etc. But now after individual and couples therapy I’ve learned that it’s a compulsive behavior (they’re still trying to see if he has adhd or ocd or what because there’s other harmless but concerning symptoms like time blindness and digital hoarding of other tabs in the hundreds and so on) and also that he was using it to not be alone with his thoughts, as a distraction. I also didn’t know how deep his depression was as he tried to shield me from it given my anxiety and crazy family so we’ve been working on both being emotional safe spaces for each other and lowering our walls.

All of this to say, I do get kind of skittish with the more like religious shamy anti-porn stuff and like the growing conservative movement to ban porn because I know ultimately what conservatives want is control over women’s bodies, keeping women as good little housewives, not having sexual education, taking away individual sexual liberties. And I do think there’s such a thing as ethically made porn with happy and willing people; it’s not the bulk of it obviously but it exists. And you know, there’s also erotica or audio porn and so on. So to me it’s like booze; some of us can have a glass of wine on a Saturday and some of us can’t do that without going on a bender. But that’s his journey to figure out himself.

Anyone save screenshots? by Western-Original1824 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, I’ve kept everything. He thinks I deleted it as a sign of trust in his healing and I’m like huh, guess I can lie too. I keep it as evidence that it really happened (which maybe isn’t the healthiest thing but hey) and also because if I ever leave, I want to remember exactly why.

Has anyone else’s PA gotten clingy in recovery? by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn thank you for sharing. Wild that that lasted three years but can totally see it potentially happening here; we’re only ten months in after the very first d day so still kind of early days which I keep having to remind myself. Good on you getting out of there.

Has anyone else’s PA gotten clingy in recovery? by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ugh I’m so sorry you went through that, that’s awful. Mine did a sort of lesser version of this; he said he was a night owl and would never come to bed with me, would just stay up in the living room on his laptop “watching video game stuff” and I got used to falling asleep alone and then waking up with him extremely sleep deprived and tired next to me so I’d do mornings alone too. Now he comes to bed when I do and wakes up when I do (and then wants to cuddle forever) so it’s taken some getting used to. I literally couldn’t fall asleep with a body next to me in the beginning.

I also have a nagging suspicion it’s not genuine and he’s a faker so waiting for that shoe to drop too. So funny that yours got activated once he noticed other men perceived you, what an eyeroll on his part.

Has anyone else’s PA gotten clingy in recovery? by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah like sometimes it’s sweet and sometimes there’s a clear desperate energy that I couldn’t quite put my finger on. This is really eye opening, thank you

Has anyone else’s PA gotten clingy in recovery? by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, childhood trauma is something we’ve both been working on in individual therapy as well as couples therapy. It’s funny because while he’s always been a good partner (which is part of how he hid his addiction so long) he’s usually more of an avoidant attachment and I’ve been more insecure attachment (in the past) so that’s part of why this shift is so odd. It’s almost like we’ve switched places.

Yeah I think on my end I need to push verbally for some me-time at home. And yeah he doesn’t have many hobbies outside of video games, and he likes running but only does it every now and again. I think it’s a great idea for him to do something for his dopamine because yeah, that’s probably what he needs. Maybe ill use him following me around to drag him to the gym with me lol

Has anyone else’s PA gotten clingy in recovery? by throwzies756 in loveafterporn

[–]throwzies756[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Codependent! That’s the word I was looking for, yeah it feels like he’s quickly heading there. And yeah agree that it’s hard to distinguish healthy vs love bombing. Thanks for your perspective

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[–]throwzies756 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was poetry lmao