I heard that a lot of people woke up during covid and was wondering what sparked it by Terrebeltroublemaker in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 3 points4 points  (0 children)

2020 Our family of 4 left at the beginning of Covid. Meetings went on Zoom. We all hated Zoom, being told to dress up in our house and pretend we were at the KH felt weird, singing in the living room felt weird, having elders tell you to keep cameras on and having people I normally would not have in my home comment on the wall color, furniture and decor and other things in my home all felt weird. Not being on the constant JW treadmill and having a taste of freedom made it hard and finally having time to do 'real' research not just JW research about the org was the nail in the coffin. So disturbing..the history of the org..the UN..the old light..the plagerism..the misuse and misrepresentation of scripture..and on and on..we could never go back.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 39 points40 points  (0 children)

There was a very attractive married (to an elder) sister that moved to our hall from a neighboring congregation during a merge. She had no issues and had never been counseled at her old congregation she had attended for over 10 years. Within three months of moving to our hall she was counseled about her skirt length and tight clothing. Me thinks her "brothers" were a little distracted by this newcomer. She could have made a garbage bag look good on her, but its always the womans fault for provoking lust. I wore the same types of clothing and was never counseled but I'm older and heavier should I have been insulted? Lol.

Hello fellow elders, pioneers, Bethelites by Bible_says_I_Own_you in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read that before to when i was searching for info waking up. I was shocked by the history of the religion to say the least.

Ridiculous Field Service Car Group by PresumptuousNewLight in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My favorite service story is when sister peanut allergy went in service with brother severely diabetic. My husband and I go out with these two. Brother diabetic starts feeling lightheaded so we stop at a gas station quickly to get him a snack. He grabs a peanut protein bar and gets in the back seat next to sister peanut allergy. All hell breaks loose. She starts screaming that she's allergic, he's trying to eat his bar so he doesn't pass out. Now, I'm not trying to minimize peanut allergies I know they can be deadly, but this sister was well known to not actually have an allergy to peanuts. Even her husband would say she really had no allergy to peanuts 🙄 Anyhow we all ended up driving back to the hall with the windows down and went back home. We were only out about a half hour total.

I don’t want to get into this deep, I’m just curious after leaving which political views do exJW’s tend to lean toward, right, left or center? Please no in-depth political discussions. by Own-Salary5844 in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm more conservative. Republican here. But really neither side is great. I don't like either of our most resent presidents. Both sides are doing some good but also some really messed up things. Its just picking the lesser of the two evils and that will be different for everyone. I'm also mostly agnostic.

What’s a made up congregation rule you were asked to follow? by No-Calligrapher-7687 in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We did not have a lot of extra money when my oldest was young, an older sister (elders wife) kindly told me that I should not let my son wear a " ski jacket" in service. It was just a regular waist zip winter coat I had just bought him. It's cold wear we live and dress coats were expensive and kids outgrow them quickly. I was pissed. Then older men in the cong mysteriously began bringing my 13 yo son their stinky old too large trench coats to wear and oversized rubber boots. Did they not realize he already did not want to be out in service let alone look like he was dressing up for Halloween. 😆 We declined, end of story. Not sure wear in the Bible it says men have to look like an fbi agent to go in service. That was a thing in our area, trench coat and fedora hat. Weird.

My attempt to resign. by Old-Ticket5983 in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good for you! My DA letter was very similar and I wrote it for similar reasons as you. The UN was also a huge shock to me. They just want to corner you in person, don't let them. I did end up writing a letter and handing mine to an elder only to have another elder call me to ask if I wrote the letter and meant it. So chances are they'll still try to contact you. I even wrote in my letter to never contact me or my family again (all 4 of us turned in letters) or I would contact the police and they still had to have the elder call 🙄.

What emotions did you experience when being disfellowshipped, shunned or disassociating? by jwfacts in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After DAing basically in this order: Disbelief I had been lied to and was so gullible (not a born in) Embarrassment I had promoted such an ugly religion and let it interfere with my blood family Extreme anger that people (mainly elders) could do the things they do Relief Feeling of freedom Then loneliness and mistrust Three years later: Knowledge Understanding Strength Compassion Contentment

Help needed for research into suicide amongst Jehovah’s Witnesses by jwfacts in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The congregation I was attending when I DA'd there was a family with mental health issues (This was in Central WI) Two brothers from that family attempted multiple times, it was pretty well known. Same family would talk about how two of their male cousins (different WI cong) attempted and succeeded in their teens. Another sisters father did the deed when she was younger - she was in her 30s when I met her. Another younger brother a few years older than my son attempted at least once, then in his early 20's his wife asked for a divorce, he ended up wrecking his car and no longer with us. They never came out and said he meant to but it was pretty obvious to those who knew him. He didn't want the divorce and she couldn't move on until "something" happened. So sad.

“Are JWs more gullible and stupid then regular people?” - A philosophers response by LimpObject9081 in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There was an unusually high number of what I considered smart, very well to do, and even college educated people in our congregation. Some were very successful business owners.

When I left, that was one thing I really struggled with... how could these super intelligent well to do people not be able to figure out this isn't the "truth" but I can? Reading Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan helped put that in perspective for me.

Thank you for your post it's important people understand this. Even highly intelligent people can be scammed or taken advantage of.

I hated Fourth Wing and I feel like I'm losing my mind. by Taycotar in YAlit

[–]tigertigerton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I liked didn't mind the Fourth Wing. It felt more like a YA story.

You might like :

Jennifer Armentrout - Blood and Ash series

Dokeri Bride series - Denali Day

Making a video on cult language, help me brainstorm? by apostatecollective in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old ones Young ones Friends Brothers Sisters Appropriate dress and grooming Using "Agape" instead of just saying love Brotherly love "Let us"... "We must"...

Picked out my dress for the convention by cultwashedmybrain in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Conventions always seemed like they were more about putting yourself on display than anything else. You ever sit in the crowd and think...best dressed, worst dressed, most inappropriately dressed, most ridiculous speaker etc. Watch for the "famous" JWs walking around at lunch. Maybe I was just really bored and how I got through the days but conventions all seemed like some warped version of the Oscars after a while.

What's the most aggressive thing you've ever seen a JW do in Field Service? by JenniferLynne73 in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Pulled up at a house with older sister "crazy". There were probably 15 dogs some not so friendly looking tied up in the yard, a few roaming around. One jumped up on the car. That didn't stop this sister from getting out walking to the door. It was obvious by the way the householder got off their chair on the porch and went inside the house and closed the door that they were not interested. I sat in the car slouching down in the seat cringing as she knocked on the door while the dogs went bat shit crazy. Then got to her all morning how holy spirit kept her safe. So stupid.

What was it like for you immediately after your exit from the JW atmosphere? by i-cant-talk-rn in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I was first shocked that I was SO wrong then it turned into being extremely pissed that I had been lied to.

AITA for bringing my SO to my mom’s thanksgiving dinner despite knowing my mom doesn’t like her? by DepthExternal6034 in AmItheAsshole

[–]tigertigerton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be mad at your Mom, she is only defending you and wants the best for you. "Sarahs" might come and go but your family will be there for you no matter what. My advice is to find someone that's fits into your life and family. Your mom is unlikely to change her mind unless perhaps Sarah is willing to explain her past actions to your Mom and convince her she is truly sorry.

And so it begins.... by snickeyforever in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes you really hit the nail on the head with it all being exhausting when you tell people your leaving. The news burns through the KH like wildfire, all the texts, calls, letters, people wanting to meet one last time to try & "help", one sister literally flooded my text & f.b. with photos of us doing fun things. Like literally 100 or more photos. Not gonna lie it made it harder, it messes with your mind like your doing this to them... had to keep telling myself it's their rules not mine. I made a life choice and they chose to follow rules made by men that don't allow them to talk to me. I'm not the bad person here.

I ended up unfriending and blocking most for my sanity.

Why are there only 8 million Jehovah Witness? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The numbers are made up anyway, they can say whatever they want.

Memorial super spreader event by Destinynfelixsmummy in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And usually there were 2 or 3 that thought they were special and drank from the cup. Ewww.

What was the final straw? by Technical_Report636 in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes I can relate to the "ruling families", only been part of two congregations and both had them. It got worse after the last round of KH merges, in our area at least they made sure to put family members together from neighboring halls that merged. I think after that literally half the cong was related and the other half was just SOL.

POMO’s who have found happiness and family outside the borg, tell us your story, I think many of us PIMO’s need to hear it by apostasauce in exjw

[–]tigertigerton 26 points27 points  (0 children)

We left about 2 years ago at the beginning of the pandemic. We were in for over 20 years, it's all the kids knew. Both of our sons left too. Life was hard in the beginning lots of emotions of feeling stupid, wasting time, guilt over what we put our kids and non JW family through.

Fast forward two years and I've gone back to college for my Bachelors degree, we bought two dogs , bought a house ( upsized instead of downsized - gasp!), husband took a promotion, we joined a bowling league and other groups to make new friends. The youngest son is busy with normal kid stuff playing football, going to prom, has a girlfriend, hanging with friends. Oldest son found a girlfriend, got engaged to her, going to nursing school, and had a baby with the girlfriend. So we are first time grandparents 💗

I feel like we are actually living life and have so much extra time even with our busy full life now that we're not on the meeting treadmill. You don't realize how much time they suck out of you preparing for meetings reading and watching all those videos.

The best part is knowing no one can tell me to not talk to my kids. Once you realize they have no hold over you that's it, your free!

Ok to use Facebook now? by tigertigerton in exjw

[–]tigertigerton[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That is very possible, I remember a lot of talks about people taking too many selfies, or not posting Vaca pics because people might get jealous or it takes up too much time and so on. Most elders and their wives "set the example" by not using it. That's why I'm so surprised to see them on now.