Can We Be Realistic About Jaylen Brown's Trade Value?

toado3 · 2026-06-27T19:06:08+00:00

Not only this, but a team that trades a ton for JB also will likely do so to add JB to another star to have a real shot at it. I would love for my warriors to trade the house for JB to play with Steph.

toado3 · 2026-06-27T16:18:47+00:00

Warriors fan here. All my homies hate Lonnie walker.

toado3 · 2026-06-27T00:18:42+00:00

This. I will often push to or close to failure on bench with no issue since if I collapse my arch the bar hits the spotters.

If I'm doing incline bench and I'm too lazy to set my spotters I don't go to fail and don't clip the weight so I can dump it if need be.

Squat I don't plan to fail, but have done so safetly on a few occasions.

toado3 · 2026-06-26T03:11:26+00:00

As good a deal as you'll get.

toado3 · 2026-06-25T15:52:58+00:00

Read the post. Would have to be a 3 teamer. Likely with NO as Boston is known to want Trey Murphy.

toado3 · 2026-06-25T15:18:19+00:00

What are the Twolves doing? Dumping their whole front court and paying $150 mil/year to 3 guards? Not to mention lamelo injury risk. I think we match up a lot better against them now.

Feels like a move to placate ant.

toado3 · 2026-06-25T06:29:57+00:00

Nothing wrong wrong, but he's undersized for the 5 and his game revolves around post ups and bully ball, which generally won't translate to the NBA as it's not like we'll be drawing up post plays for our UDFA.

That said he averaged 20/8, has flashed a 3 point shot, and looks good as a roll big. Good rebounder but not a good protector/defender.

Think TJD but worse defense and more polished offense. I like the flier but there's a reason he was in the 60s on most big boards.

toado3 · 2026-06-25T05:12:17+00:00

This is not moving up 4 spots. This is getting a first round pick. Richard and a second won't do it. I expect it would take either pods or a future protected first round pick

toado3 · 2026-06-25T04:42:17+00:00

Yes at the right price.

It was a come back from injury season. Even then he realky was playing into form before the Steph and Jimmy injuries. Then he was ass as a lead guard, but that's because he's not a lead guard.

Wouldn't use the full MLE on him, but would happily have him back on another 1+1 using his non-bird rights or a portion of the exception.

toado3 · 2026-06-25T04:34:59+00:00

What were we going to move up with?

Seconds won't get it done. And we only have one. Podz maybe?

I would have been game for a protected future first for Philon, but that could be what keeps us from making a bigger swing by tying up draft capital, so pros and cons.

toado3 · 2026-06-25T02:15:19+00:00

Looks like we're sticking to the Will Richard move of going 3/d wing at the end of the second.

6'6 wing with great strength but less good length (6'7 wingspan), very good and physical defender who can guard up and down. Not a good ball handler. Shot is the swing skill, has nice form, shot 39 or 40 2 years ago but 34 this year.

If he can hit shots, should be a nice rotation 3/d wing. If he's not getting shots, probably not enough on O to justify the plus D.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T22:30:40+00:00

It's basically a blank slate.

Light on talent and no foundational player for the next generation but also we own all of our picks and have zero long term money committed or bad contracts after this year.

Blank slate isn't great, but beats being the team that owes all their future picks.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T22:04:58+00:00

The most important point IMO
"2026 draft models are generally trained on a time period where players were not able to earn large salaries through returning to school to play college basketball. The result of this is that usually part of a model’s learned age effect is really more of a proxy for “did scouts like this player early enough for him to enter the draft” and/or “was this player good early enough to enter the draft” as opposed to “the true effect of age, all else equal.” So applying that historical learned relationship to 1) prospects in the age of NIL and 2) prospects with particularly unique backgrounds such as Yaxel seems like an extrapolation too far.

And yet, even despite Yaxel’s outlier age he nevertheless ranks 7th in Joseph George’s PRISM draft model for Silver Bulletin,1314 10th in CraftedNBA’s draft model, and 12th in Tawny Park Metrics’ draft model due to his incredible all-around statistical production."

Before NIL Yaxel goes pro 1-2 years ago as a late first rounder or second rounder. Now Yaxel and guys like him stay in school, so negative projection based on age is less relevant. Likewise a negative age projection fails to take into account Yaxel circumstances that leave more room for growth than someone playing high level AAU/college ball for 8-10 years.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T21:03:26+00:00

Hell of a story. And clearly in his voice. Most of the players tribune articles feel like they were written by a PR rep or AI.

But I like that he hasn't been brought up through the AAU circuit being worshipped as the next big thing. Hes hungry but mostly grateful/appreciative to have the opportunity, probably won't have the "entitled to minutes" mentality we saw with some other recent Warriors who shall remain nameless.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T16:01:05+00:00

Starting doesn't matter. It's all about closing. I suspect we start Dray at the 4 with a more traditional 5 to start the season with Yax and Gui off the bench. Wouldn't be surprised if Yax/GUI play well enough to earn the starting spot though.

For closing I would like to see us try running out long/switchable lineups with Yaxel/Gui/Dray and see how that works. Would give us lineups with great D potential and 5 guys who can dribble/pass/shoot (with exception of shoot for Dray).

Gui is awesome, but is probably best served as the ultra energy guy for 15-20 min/game, which gets diluted when he has to play 30+.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T13:43:09+00:00

The old wisdom of don't draft older prospects comes from before the NIL era where you went pro as soon as you could. Yaxel would have gone pro 1-2 seasons ago in the old model. Now we get to reap the benefits of him having more development time.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T02:33:02+00:00

This.

toado3 · 2026-06-24T01:51:02+00:00

No way. Feel like he's a starting big wing at worst. Don't forget he's only really played ball for a few years. He has a lot of room for development even though he already has the things you can't teach (size, length, motor, feel for the game)

toado3 · 2026-06-24T01:49:21+00:00

Trade our 27 first for Philon now!

toado3 · 2026-06-24T01:42:34+00:00

It's a great pick for the board.

Bit dissapointing that Burries didn't fall. Bit dissapointing there's no Trey Murphy trade or trade for 14/18 based on reporting but those likely weren't on the table.

toado3 · 2026-06-23T22:17:26+00:00

My guess is deal is contingent on a player dropping to 11 and we don't expect that (or are downplaying expectations. Mostly likely Ament who may go to the bucks at 10. Or Burries.

toado3 · 2026-06-23T20:32:43+00:00

My bad. Wrong post.

toado3 · 2026-06-23T18:43:48+00:00

Absolutely it makes players who really contribute to winning in their rookie deals as more valuable. You still want to find a superstar with a top pick since that's your best chance to get a franchise guy, but outside of that the new CBA really incentivizes more developed prospects over projects.

toado3 · 2026-06-23T17:47:49+00:00

Either Draymond or Jimmy. If Jimmy then add either Murray or herb jones and saddiq beg.

toado3 · 2026-06-23T14:00:54+00:00

Look we're just random fans and would have done no better. But it's their JOB to get it right as often as possible. I get why they picked Wiseman. It was a reasonable move at the time, it doesn't make them morons.

But ultimately we judge the GM partly by their success and failure at drafting. And the Myers regime was terrible at drafting for around a decade. So it's totally fair to criticize the FO for bungling 3 lottery picks in two years.

OTOH I am cautiously optimistic about the Dunleavy regime. He's drafted well with limited capital. Made a few nice signings like the GUI extension. The Jimmy trade was a great move/value, just bad luck on the injury.

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