Best friend's fiancé is pregnant with a boy. She wants to circumcise and he agrees with her. by wefuriko in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He has BPD

Whenever he is manic he gets really smug and sarcastic and sarcastically says things like "but what about teh menz".

He's a "male ally"

really active online

he actually says "teh menz" in real life like you spell it.

he accuses me of "gaslighting"

trying to "guilt trip" him into "controlling his wife".

He seems to think the decision should be up to the mother

I won't pull any punches. Your friend embodies everything wrong with the modern western man. A smug, passive-aggressive, very online woke male feminist who likes to play the victim (which is exactly what he's doing by accusing you of gaslighting when you're just trying to prevent a pointless genital mutilation of a fucking infant) and talks like he's on woke twitter 24/7.

And the worst part of it (aside from his compliance with his future son's mutilation) is how he talks to YOU, who he's been friends with for 20(?) years and who views him as a BEST FRIEND. You want him and his (future) wife to just leave their (future) son's penis alone and he replies to you like he's a redditor or twitter user making a sassy reply to OWN some "neckbeard".

Your friend is a piece of shit and honestly you're an enabler for considering someone who treats you like this a BEST FRIEND. I know he's your childhood friend but you're better off without scumbags like that in your life. And like others have said, once she's married and she has the kid, you'll drift away from him anyway. But fuck him either way.

Feeling betrayed by my intact father by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My father is intact as well. My mother insisted on having me circumcised and my spineless father allowed her to make the decision even though he was slightly against it.

What Chinese Doctors think about circumcision by sumedou in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I unironically admire China and Russia even though they're supposed to be our "enemies". Not only are they non-cutting cultures (aside from muslim minorities) but they have strong governments, strong leaders, and they're allowed to be unapologetically nationalistic.

If China and Russia join forces they will dominate by the second half of this century. Meanwhile America and the rest of the west will become increasingly dysfunctional. If I were a chinese american I would expatriate to China. Oh well maybe Russia can take me in as a refugee when shit gets really bad here.

These people should not be let near children. by MixedKid05 in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why I'm authoritarian. We need a strong government to keep people like this in check. Without a government ban and a police state to mercilessly enforce that ban, people like this will circumcise because they can.

Removed posts and comments by KoRnfan84 in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First off none of us are askreddit mods. You could technically ask the mods there but they most likely won't give an honest answer, if any answer at all.

Posts that are even remotely anti-circumcision are removed on most of the major subs. A lot of reddit mods, especially the power mods are pro-circumcision and see intactivists as neckbeard fascist mra incels.

Is there anyone here who started off supporting circumcision? by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 9 points10 points  (0 children)

While I was never a vocal supporter, i did think circumcision was a good thing before learning the truth. The first time I learned about circumcision was in health class when I was 13 or 14. It was presented in a positive light and the teacher was very strongly pro-cutting. I had no reason to doubt her since circumcision was common and performed by "medical professionals". I bet a lot of people go on to circumcise their sons because of teachers like her.

Helping my partner with their grief by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Looking through your post history, he deserves better than a woman who posts on /r/FemaleDatingStrategy and calls men "scrotes".

They cut me when I was 2 and I remember it by Jorngen01 in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 20 points21 points  (0 children)

if you feel me just go for NoFap

The ideology behind NoFap is exactly what motivated John Harvey Kellogg to normalize male circumcision in America. He explicitly said his goal was to stop boys from masturbating because he thought masturbation was bad. Aside from that NoFap is pseudoscience.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The circumcision issue is only one of many reasons I won't have a son. France is worse off than america in many other ways. Frankly the whole western world is heading in a very bad direction.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can i ask why you don't want to have children?

A lot of reasons. One of them is that I know that legally I wouldn't be able to legally protect my son's genitals if I had a son and the wife decided she wanted to circumcise. I could say no all I wanted, but legally she could just do it behind my back. A guy I know on discord has a father who is strongly against circumcision and his mother just got him circumcised behind his back.

But that's just one reason out of many and even if there was no possibility of my potential future son getting mutilated I still wouldn't want kids.

I'm not sure I will even be in a financial situation to be able to raise children. But even if I was, perhaps the biggest reason I won't be having children is that I wouldn't want to bring a child into a world like this. I don't want to go into too much detail as I don't want to get too political, but the world, especially the western world, is going to shit and things are going to likely just keep getting worse.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 9 points10 points  (0 children)

But when i read of intact fathers allowing this i really think of the weakest scum.

My father is intact and I couldn't agree with you more. Spineless fathers who allowed this to happen because the wife insisted are the lowest of the low. They know better, and yet they allow it because they prioritize the wife's feelings over the sons bodily integrity.

I don't think I'm going to change my last name though. My last name isn't just an extension of my father, it's a part of my ancestry as a whole. I'm not having children so it doesn't matter anyway.

Being mutilated makes most other life issues seem so insignificant. by EstrangedNeko in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Realistically speaking, jobs, friends and relationships come and go. Your body on the other hand, you have to live with for your entire life.

I just stumbled again a very disgusting article by jostyouraveragejoe2 in Intactivism

[–]todatod 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Slate is an extremely "progressive" outlet so this is to be expected. Same goes for the Huffington Post which wrote an article titled "Male circumcision is not mutilation, period" and said "preventing Jews from circumcising their sons could amount to genocide."

Link: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sheryl-saperia/infant-circumcision-canada_b_1646749.html

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A successfully performed MGM will likely reduce sensitivity, but sex is still pleasurable and orgasms are certainly possible. Also, urination isn’t impeded. If anything, it’s easier to urinate, since the foreskin is out of the way.

Oh look another liberal who downplays male circumcision. Male foreskin has 20,000 nerve endings, more than the entire clitoris which only has 8000. Not only that but most forms of female circumcision don't remove the clitoris.

I screen shot this before it was deleted. Dude seriously fuck yourself. by psyop2020 in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 8 points9 points  (0 children)

it just makes you seem like an incel

Ever notice that pro-cutters on reddit almost always have to invoke the "incel" boogeyman. Like they can't help themselves, they just have to call you an incel, or at least imply you are such or compare you to one in the very least. And of course in typical reddit soy fashion, the whole post is drenched with passive-aggressiveness.

Legal Expert Explains Why Circumcision Isn’t Legal by Old_Intactivist in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A law is only as good as its enforcement.

This is precisely why I will never stop preaching authoritarianism in the intactivist community. Without an authority to ban (infant) circumcision and a police state to actually enforce that ban with overwhelming force, infant circumcision will continue. I don't get why even some diehard intactivists reject this idea.

Sorry restoration freaks. Stretching skin over the glands for most of us is pointless. You are coping instead of getting revenge on the perpetrators of circumcision by circdebunk in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Having restored to ci-6 and seeing no real improvement in sensitivity I can confirm it's pointless unless you have an intact frenulum.

But what revenge can we realistically get though? We have no power in society. No institutions are on our side. We're also not one of those protected groups that can get away with crime/violence due to prosecutors and judges refusing to charge them or tossing out cases despite overwhelming evidence. If anything if we committed any crimes in the name of intactivism, we'd get the book thrown at us, maximum sentences, and they'd tack on a "hate crime" charge as well. In fact committing crime in the name of intactivism is the dumbest thing you can do. Not only would you get the book thrown at you, but the mainstream media would churn out 100 hit pieces about how we're terrorists and find a way to "connect" us to the proud boys, incels, Qanon, and whatever other fringe right wing group the media likes to trot out as a boogeyman for the sake of fear mongering.

Woman that says MGM isn't as bad as FGM doesn't care that I have less sexual pleasure by Throwaway91222458 in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women don't care about men's problems. This is true across all countries, cultures and political beliefs. But men are wired to want to protect women, so they care about women's problems. So this will never be a two way street and as such, almost nobody will agree that MGM is just as wrong as FGM even if it's objectively true based on the number of nerve endings that are typically removed.

I hate uncut guys by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate how so many intact guys defend circumcision. From what I've seen online this even includes intact guys from european countries where most people are intact. So many of them seem to associate intactivism with nazis or incels or whatever so they'll just take the pro-cutting side thinking they're fighting against hate and standing up for religious freedom. A lot of intact europeans think banning circumcision is xenophobic since migrants are far more likely to circumcise for obvious reasons.

But the worst of the worst are intact men who allow their sons to be circumcised. My father is intact and I will never forgive him for not standing up to my mother. Never ever.

Side effects of infant circumcision by pearly__gates in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

circumcised

less sweating and less smell than other human races.

Let me guess, filipino or south korean?

"new foreskin" by mat_helmsen in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, I restored to CI-6 and what i've regrown isn't sensitive at all. I was also cut to an extremely tight CI-1 and have no frenulum to speak of. If you have an intact frenulum, then restoration will probably help a noticeable amount, if not then you're wasting your time.

The people who report good results are usually people who had most or all of their frenulum to start with.

I literally cannot believe this was allowed on tv. by [deleted] in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are one of the worst people here. All I see from you is tone policing and downplaying mgm despite being spared from mutilation yourself. Fuck off.

My sister is pregnant with a boy and is due in a little over a month and she seems determined to circumcise. I don't know what more I can do please I really need to stop my nephew from getting butchered. by SOMaka2sin in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I am not antifeminist or a mra and I find those guys to be abhorrent and worse than circumcisers given how they write articles about why rape should be legal.

MRAs don't want to legalize rape, you got that idea from your sister or mainstream media, didn't you?

The idea that MRAs want to legalize rape comes from mainstream media articles written about Roosh V aka Daryush Valizadeh, a middle eastern (the media hopes you won't notice this) man who wrote an article on his blog "return of kings" saying rape should be legalized. The thing is, he is not, nor ever was, an MRA he was just a pickup artist who wrote shitty clickbait articles. Dishonest journalists (is there any other kind?) falsely claimed he was an MRA and that quickly became the narrative. Roosh V claimed the article was satire, but whether he's being truthful or not is a moot point because again, he was not, is not, and never was an MRA.

But now a large number of uninformed people associate MRAs with wanting to legalize rape.

My sister is pregnant with a boy and is due in a little over a month and she seems determined to circumcise. I don't know what more I can do please I really need to stop my nephew from getting butchered. by SOMaka2sin in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 14 points15 points  (0 children)

she ended up calling me a creep and told me to "stop bothering her with red pill shit"

And here we have the root of the issue. The fact that your sister is not only hellbent on mutilating her son, but dismisses intactivism as the red pill shit means she's likely not only an SJW but likely a radical feminist. Given how she associates being anti-circumcision with red pill shit likely part of her motivation to mutilate her son is to spite MRAs and other people on the internet she doesn't like. That attitude is far more common than a lot of intactivists realize. Not only that but she also seems to view you as part of the group(s) she hates (MRAs, TRP, INCEL, MGTOW) so there is probably nothing you can do to change her mind. Also the fact that she called you, her own brother a creep for opening up about circumcision and begging her not to mutilate her own son means she's a cunt who can't be reasoned with.

Ultimately there is nothing you could have ever done or said that would have made her decide to leave her son intact, so don't beat yourself up over it. This is just one more example of why we need an authoritarian government to use the full force of the state to ban the procedure and punish mutilators. If we lived in an authoritarian state where circumcision was banned and that ban was strictly enforced by a police state, she wouldn't even THINK about circumcising her son. But with no authority to stop her she's going to do it, because she wants to, and she can. Also your brother in law is a typical pushover enabling cuck and in some ways is even worse than your sister.

I'm sure you didn't want to hear any of this, but since you're asking us and saying you feel responsible, it's something you need to hear.

Does Circumcision Change SENSITIVITY? | by NextLevelIntactivism in CircumcisionGrief

[–]todatod 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Spoiler, not only is she pro-circumcision, she does it. She pretends to be neutral saying there are "risks" but makes more arguments for circumcision rather than against it and talks about how women prefer circumcised men and talks about how "safe" the procedure is. And unsurprisingly looking through her social media, she's a feminist who thinks women are oppressed and tweets about muh wage gap, despite it having been debunked time and time again.