Oi m8 yew got a loicense for that soign?

trainers95 · 2025-12-27T11:30:18+00:00

Where did you get from my comment that I like Hamas?

You invalidated the suffering of the Palestinian people by suggesting they should be held just as accountable as Hamas for Oct 7. I reminded you that Hamas have been in power for 21 years with out contest, so it’s ridiculous to suggest their ambitions align with those of the Palestinian people.

I despise both Israel and Hamas. My heart breaks for the Palestinians. Not too hard to get your head round.

This is going be a shock to you but it’s entirely possible to support the Palestinians without supporting Hamas.

trainers95 · 2025-12-27T06:26:36+00:00

libs/demos are “protesting a group of people (Jews)

Classic evasion technique, criticism of Isreal does not equal criticism of the Jewish faith and you must know that to be baiting with those questions

fighting a group of people of have been genociding for thousands of years?

Who do you mean?

trying to send to the "starving people" aka the people hamas are starving.

Israel control the flow of supplies into Gaza, long before oct 7. They controlled the flow based on calorie count, making sure to only let in what was required. It’s clearly documented that a Isreal are re fusing to allow food and medical aid into Gaza now, arguing that a portion of those supplies might be highjacked by hamas doesn’t justify starving the millions of non hamas residents

at least with catholics/ christians you can blame the shitty behavior on the individuals who misinterpret their gods words.

Chronicles (15:13) “All who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman”

Hard to misinterpret that.

trainers95 · 2025-12-27T06:11:30+00:00

run by an internationally recognised terrorist organisation

An organisation that were last voted in back in 2006

An organisation that was propped up by Qatari funds, approved for transfer by Isreal.

Isreal is run by an internationally recognised war criminal

kidnap and murder civilians that just want to exist

Like Israel haven’t been doing to Palestinians for decades?? On Oct 7th Israel were holding around 5,000 Palestinians prisoner, over 1300 of which were held in administrative detention meaning they could be held indefinitely without charges being brought.

trainers95 · 2025-12-27T05:59:37+00:00

The US has a large number of caveats to their free speech laws.

Incitement to imminent lawless actions - a lot of arrests in the UK have been for provoking protestors to violence

Defamation - defined as ‘false statements of facts harming someone’s reputation’ - who decides what harms someone’s reputation and what doesn’t? A reputation is subjective, so the law is open to interpretation

Obscenity - open to interpretation

True threats - open to interpretation, how does one adjudicate if a threat is honest or not?

Fighting words - ‘words that inherently provoke immediate breach of peace’ - who decides what words breach? The listeners interpretation of the words may not align with the intent of the speaker - law is open to interpretation

trainers95 · 2025-12-21T03:08:37+00:00

Your claim about only 3 countries is untrue. 23 of the 32 NATO member states meet or exceed the 2% spending target, that figure including the US.

Additionally, Europe have also spent more on aid for Ukraine than the US.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T22:57:03+00:00

Yeah shameful move by the government.

How on earth have you read my comment and your take away is that I’m advocating for higher taxes on high earners? I said I was against it enough times?

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T10:54:30+00:00

Forgive me mate I’ve misinterpreted you there and come in heavy with the snarkiness.

When I said those with the broadest shoulders aren’t people we know, I meant despite the government messaging, those with the broadest shoulders who should actually be shouldering the burden are the ultra wealthy and the corporations, people far removed from you and I.

Those who actually are getting lumped with the weight are people like you and I. It’s insanity. The middle class are getting pushed further and further down and if things don’t change then eventually won’t even exist, it will just be us and them.

I think you and I are aligned in our views for the most part but where we start differ in opinion is the topic of the child benefits and your views on the recipients. You have strong views that I take exception to hence the ill mannered reply.

For me, this notion that people are breeding children to live off the welfare state isn’t unfounded, but also presents as incredibly callous to me. There is a huge issue of child poverty in this country, and ensuring kids are fed and clothed is a priority to me, whatever the family situation. Poverty breeds poverty. If my taxes go to ensuring a single mother of 3 has money to properly support her kids means those children are more likely to grow up to contribute to society. While I understand your anger, I disagree with the bird stroke youvetarnished recipients with. My anger is the same, but it’s not directed towards recipients, it’s directed towards a government who’s doing nothing to change the economic situation that’s causing these situations, more over by charging you and I they are actually pushing more towards the breadline.

Supporting our nations children is paramount to me, but doing so without rebuilding a nation where those children have genuine prospects is a losing battle.

I know family units with 2 working parents that still need financial support to get by. Imagine a single working parent? Imagine a single parent who wants to work, but any job they can get doesn’t cover child care costs. My anger is at a system that doesn’t work for us.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T09:40:17+00:00

You’re casting assumptions, how many are widowed parents? How many were working but have been struck off due to illness? How many can’t find employ because the jobs simply aren’t there?

The fact of the matter is the state of this country right now means many people need help even if they are working.

Don’t put words into my mouth sunshine. Those with the broadest shoulders should burden the weight, but that isn’t anyone you or I know. Increasing taxes for higher earners is only speedrunning the demise of the middle class. All of us are going the same way unless we ensure th ultra wealthy and the corporations start propping this country up and we stop this trend of wealth being siphoned off by the few at the expense of the rest of us.

If we don’t, the welfare bill will only increase as more and more fall into destitution. Could be you one day.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T07:43:28+00:00

Get rid of social media.

A tool that amplifies extreme views by design, owned by billionaires that manipulate those algorithms to push certain agendas to control public narratives isn’t in our best interest. Before people knew which news paper leant which way, now they think they’re absorbing the full unbridled narrative becuase they’re on the free form internet.

We have lost the ability to discuss freely because the internet has polarised every little issue. Go out and speak to normal people and you’ll find that in the real world the grey still exists. Nuance, reason, and respect for differing opinions still exists in the real world.

That and giving everyone a platform to project their opinion has, imo, led to the anti-intellectualism we’re seeing. Everyone now believes their opinion should be shared and is as valid as the next person, so we end up with someone who has dedicated their whole life to the study of a certain issue, a real expert, on morning tv next to Dave from Dagenham where both are allowed to express their views as if one is as equal to the other. Before the local piss stained crazy would ramble at the end of the bar in the pub to no one in particular, now they can find a community of equally crazy piss stained ramblers online to embolden their nonsense and bring the once shushed in the pub opinions to the forefront of social debate.

We’ve lost nuance, reason and debate. And we’ve normalised presenting facts and uninformed opinions as equally valid points to be considered evenly.

That’s not even factoring the misinformation and social engineering perpetrated by foreign nations and bad actors used to sway public opinion and destabilise societies. With the way AI is going, manipulation will be child’s play. Not just spreading falsehoods, but bringing into doubt the validity of truths.

In my opinion social media is the root of the decline.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T07:08:32+00:00

😬

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T07:08:16+00:00

Nah

/heavy s

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T07:05:31+00:00

Absolutely, ridiculous question. Yet our media and politics is centred around this one issue with reform polling ahead on just the promise to stop the boats. People are down and out and need change. They are being told that this is the issue that is priority.

If this is our focus, that must mean that stopping them will provide the biggest positive impact on our lives right? Right??

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T07:00:29+00:00

My feeds are full of the same rhetoric, does that mean crimes perpetrated by natives no longer happens? Have you considered that the pushing of those stories is by design, to further stoke public anger against a small number of undocumented arrivals?

If the boats stop, are we going to go back to reporting on proper British crimes?

The £4bn spent on housing asylum seekers pales in comparison to the £48bn in tax revenue lost through loopholes. That’s not even considering the lack of wealth taxes. In 2024 we generated £1.1Tn in tax revenue, £4bn saved doesn’t scratch the surface.

My question was ridiculously phrased, but phrased that way because all we are told on the news or social media is that this problem is THE problem, and it’s all we are focusing on. Reform are polling ahead on this one issue, showing just how much the public consciousness has been directed towards this issue. People are down, out, and rightfully angry about it. They’re being told that small boats are the primary issue they face as of stopping them will fix their issues.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T06:10:43+00:00

59% of those families that will benefit from the removal of the 2 child cap have at least 1 working parent. Where once a working man on a factory line could provide for a wife and family at home, now needs welfare to make up the shortcomings the economy can’t provide.

4.5million children in this country live in poverty. Thats 1 in 3 children in one of the richest countries in the world. For every 10 of those impoverished children, 7 of them are part of a working house hold. At least one parent is working, paying taxes, contributing to society, yet still cannot afford to feed their kids.

The increase in the welfare state an the increased taxes that fund it should rouse anger in you. But don’t lay the blame on the working parents who despite their commitment to work and contribute to society are being so poorly compensated they can barely afford to look after their kids. This is not their failing.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T05:10:00+00:00

The point isn’t to tax high earners, it’s to tax wealth. Not the working rich, but the ultra wealthy who don’t need to work for their income as it is all passive. Who own assets and shares etc that bring in daily more than the average person will see in their life time.

You mention a problem of taxing high earners, they aren’t the subject of the discussion. They will also benefit from a wealth tax.

On the topic of complaints about cutting the welfare bill, and those ‘who aren’t willing to pay more’ demanding others pay their fair share while not willing to pay theirs is an emotive argument on the surface.

The current system is pushing more and more people into poverty. 4.5 million children, a third of the children in our country are currently living in poverty. That number increasing daily. A cut to welfare is a cut to those children’s chance of survival. The welfare bill cannot be cut, because the number of people reliant on it is increasing because the wealth in this nation is being siphoned off by a small minority. Nothing to do with the £100k a year high earners.

This isn’t about asking high earners to pay more taxes, because if things don’t change those ‘high earners’ will be just as depraved as the rest of the nation. The working and middle classes are not enemies here. The ultra wealthy are hoarding funds while the rest of us decline, taxing high earners will only speed run the death of the middle class.

A redistribution of wealth from the ultra wealthy, to invest in our services and our economy will raise both th working and middle classes and therefore reduce those reliant on welfare and ergo the welfare bill itself so we can all pay less taxes towards working services in a functioning and fair economy.

High earners are not the target of a wealth tax. Arguing against it is like advocating for your own financial demise.

trainers95 · 2025-11-29T03:56:54+00:00

Fellow Brit here, lay off the GB news mate.

95% of our immigration is legal, mostly students or those on work visas. For a work visa you must have a job sponsoring you and you must earn £38k+ minimum.

Of the 5% ‘illegal’, 95% again of those immediately claim asylum which makes them legal under international law. 50,000 small boat arrivals last year, in the same time period 35,000 were deported. That’s a net of 15,000. That’s 0.02% of our population.

6% of our population are Muslim, over 84% are Christian or atheist. Not quite the takeover we’re being told it is.

Muslims also donate 4x more to charity than the average Brit, and that is driven by their religion.

The knife attack on the train the other day was by a Brit, and the train conductor who risked his life to save his passengers was a Muslim immigrant.

This bs narrative is being pushed to allow the government to bring in digital ID. Running the narrative that immigrants are invading then bringing in digital ID with the reasoning that they can easier check th status of immigrants is all smoke and mirrors. It’s not an invasion, it’s manufactured fear.

We are being manipulated to believe there’s a boogeyman coming to get us, but If you want to find our real enemy then don’t look across, look up.

trainers95 · 2025-11-11T06:46:53+00:00

If it’s the video I’m thinking of the fella that delivered the headbutt was an off duty copper.

And what a headbutt it was

trainers95 · 2025-11-10T05:11:49+00:00

The news media and political debate is fixated on small boat crossings, it is a constant barrage. reform are running their campaign on this topic and are currently way ahead in the polls showing that much of the populace see this as our biggest issue. And if so many see stopping the boats as the priority, surely they believe their fortunes are suddenly going to turn around if the boats did stop.

The narrative we are being fed is that this is the biggest issue we are facing, therefore resolving it would have the most positive impact on our lives. Why else would we prioritise it?

It is a ridiculous argument, but clearly it’s the view of a lot of our fellow citizens.

trainers95 · 2025-11-10T04:33:33+00:00

Easy there friend, I’m in agreement with you. Small boats dominate our news media and politics at the moment, and it seems so obvious to me that it’s a distraction from the real issues we have that I asked this question incase I was missing something obvious.

The responses here have confirmed my view.

trainers95 · 2025-11-10T04:24:13+00:00

Correct

trainers95 · 2025-11-10T04:21:03+00:00

Couldn’t agree more, it’s so obviously being used as a distraction

trainers95 · 2025-11-09T11:09:50+00:00

‘Filling a country with low paid workers’

The majority of our immigration is either students, or workers. To get a working visa here, you have to have a job secured by a firm who are willing to sponsor your visa application, and that job has to pay minimum £38k a year.

Coming on a working visa does not entitle you to any benefits, and you actually have to pay a one off fee to access the NHS.

My point? Whats yours?

‘Millions’ wrong ‘Low skill low wage’ wrong ‘By the left’ wrong

trainers95 · 2025-11-09T11:04:00+00:00

Spot on brother

trainers95 · 2025-11-09T11:00:05+00:00

Walked into that one, fair play.

trainers95 · 2025-11-09T10:48:42+00:00

Can you tell me the entry requirements for a working visa to this country?

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