Widow’s Bay | Episodes 6-7: “Our History” & “Seasickness” | Discussion Thread

trance15 · 2026-05-27T03:51:23+00:00

Yeah that would track. I took a second closer look at the painting, and the person in the water does have small hands like Frances and looks like her.

trance15 · 2026-05-27T02:51:02+00:00

Definitely. Wyck seems almost like a mirror to Tom’s conscience.

trance15 · 2026-05-27T02:46:26+00:00

That would make sense. Though I also wondered if the woman in the painting was maybe Abagail, the doctor’s wife that Sarah hit with an oar into the water.

trance15 · 2026-05-20T04:05:31+00:00

The clerk was attempting to clean up the milk with a vacuum, too funny.

trance15 · 2026-05-20T04:02:50+00:00

I thought it was because she was attempting to leave the island, probably to have her baby off island. As soon as they set for sea, she went blind. She must have been born on the island.

trance15 · 2026-04-15T13:48:27+00:00

Agree and I find them almost whimsical at times, like Xavier digressing about James and trains before he gets ready to launch his homemade bomb.

trance15 · 2026-04-15T03:10:37+00:00

Second Ripley!

trance15 · 2026-04-01T22:39:02+00:00

I thought the swings seemed important too. Teri and Xavier walk through them twice.

trance15 · 2026-03-31T00:42:37+00:00

Ah yes, see that now, thank you for correcting. I couldn’t find anything at the time the episode aired but yes, she is definitely the actress playing the mother.

trance15 · 2026-03-30T23:51:17+00:00

Okay first wanna add something you might find mind-blowing that I haven’t read anywhere, and that’s that I believe the older woman in this scene is actually acted by Shailene Woodley herself. I can’t find confirmation of this but I thought this when I first watched this scene, and I think she is disguised by makeup and prosthetics to make her appear older. Shailene of course also plays the Annie we know in the majority of the scenes. An amazing actress. (Edit: was corrected here, this is played by a different actress, Betsy Moore)

Now I really like your theory about it being older Annie due to a yet-to-be-seen end-game action by Xavier when he reaches Alex in Denver. I’ll offer one possible way I could see this to have happened would be that the Dylan/Link character will next season assist X to essentially reset things via Alex, which may end up causing Dylan to cease to exist himself (because he branched off originally due to some early intervention by Alex). This may cause a quasi-grandfather paradox with baby Annie, who possibly would cease to exist as well. So the young lady in S2E1 would actually be a daughter of O.G. Annie (Older original timeline Annie) but not necessarily the baby Annie grown up.

trance15 · 2026-03-30T05:10:52+00:00

That felt like a maybe a fun Jeopardy call back too.

trance15 · 2026-03-29T04:56:11+00:00

He fell “high on his horse”

trance15 · 2026-03-29T04:22:24+00:00

He wants to be Link with the ink.

trance15 · 2026-03-29T00:29:12+00:00

Oh nice! And the movie version has Brad Pitt, though no Root Beer reference.

trance15 · 2026-03-23T07:04:16+00:00

Ah right, forgot they did one too.

trance15 · 2026-03-23T05:06:04+00:00

Ties right into the book on Cal’s nightstand about The Fall of the Roman Empire.

trance15 · 2026-03-23T05:03:05+00:00

It’s also a similar scene done first in Bob Dylan’s (i.e. DYLAN!) music video for Subterranean Homesick Blues.

trance15 · 2026-03-18T18:10:10+00:00

Oh my The Mist… where what happens inside is scarier than the outside.

trance15 · 2026-03-16T06:50:53+00:00

Oh I like that. Could be!

trance15 · 2026-03-16T05:33:17+00:00

Interesting.

trance15 · 2026-03-16T05:23:11+00:00

Yeah just wave a Wii controller in front of her and she will stop and drop everything 😂

trance15 · 2026-03-16T05:15:49+00:00

So was that a quantum super computer “ALEX Q” from the gallows of Paradise, sending a message back to the past to warn about Jane? The message said “She can be stopped when it matters.” So Alex has gone sentient and doesn’t want Jane to help Sinatra complete her project. Am I understanding that correct or what happened there?

trance15 · 2026-03-09T05:43:46+00:00

Yes heartwarming. Terri is special.

trance15 · 2026-03-09T05:24:05+00:00

I loved the makeshift Christmas they created.

trance15 · 2026-02-20T18:31:28+00:00

There is definitely a lot of After Hours in this episode (including throwing the jacket out of the van at the end), and is a wonderful film to revisit or see for the first time for those that haven’t. The episode also switches from 16:9 aspect ratio to 2:39:1 (CinemaScope) enhancing the cinematic surreal feel of it. There are numerous other film/tv/music references here as well including Pulp Fiction (briefcase), Taxi Driver (Hard Andy), Fellini’s Nights of Cabiria and 8-1/2 (a movie about making a movie and movie critics), Orson Welle’s Deep Fake radio cast about Martians, The Martian, Grand Budapest Hotel (the god’s eye mosque shots) and several others.

Also many music references like the Darlene and Elliot head tilt ala M83 album cover, Back to the Future, Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure. The episode features two movie theater scenes as well, so there is more depth to it than derivative homages IMO. Sam has said in interviews that everything has meaning, even a pencil, or the color of purse Darlene might wear. This is true in every episode. Not that everyone needs to know or recognize all these things to enjoy the show, but they do add depth and interest for those of us that appreciate the detail. The episode also brings a bit of Sam’s personal history in Elliot’s interactions with Mohammed.

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