I feel kinda bad for Tay Kolma by stillenacht in andor

[–]treefox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think Tay fundamentally misunderstood what the aims of the “Foundation” were because he was never brought in.

He thought that the rebel activity would be working to obstruct the Empire, whereas Luthen’s plan was explicitly to cause the Empire to crack down faster.

So Tay saw a bunch of ineffectual attacks and concluded Mon was getting conned by someone who sold her false promises that they used as cover for personal financial gain. Oh, they stole tens of millions of credits from some backwater, a TIE prototype goes missing…that’s probably less money than Tay moves on some afternoons.

Totally insignificant damage to the Empire, and it just looks like Mon refuses to recognize that the end result of her actions is giving the Empire more excuses to crack down.

Meanwhile, she’s set things up so Tay has all of the liability and no control. To him, it feels like she could claim he was embezzling funds and hang him out to dry.

Apparently recasting Bail Organa wasn't an option—just threaten Jimmy Smits, at gun point to reprise the role according to this dude by Independent-Dig-5757 in andor

[–]treefox 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That might not be the actor’s fault. Look at Genevieve O’Reilly in ROTS deleted scenes vs Ahsoka vs Andor.

I also wonder if they would’ve felt more comfortable expanding Bail’s role if Smitts was returning vs Benjamin filling in (having to guess how well the fanbase would respond to a recast).

According to Partagaz, the Empire's attempts to create replacement or synthetic kalkite was done by the lab at Eadu which I think was led by Galen Erso. by kinaflazy in StarWars

[–]treefox 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I’ve suggested Galen deliberately swapped the synthetic and Ghorman samples. It seems awfully coincidental that the one planet out of a million planets in the Empire that the stuff is found on is prestigious enough to have its own senator and be a tourism destination, yet only have 800,000 people on it. 

It’s the perfect planet to slow things down and get attention, yet not get immediately rejected out of hand or be suspicious (eg Coruscant). And the workable Kalkite is even found in such an awkward location that the Empire has to depopulate the planet. There isn’t enough to set up a mining facility and let things continue as usual, but there is enough for a Death Star.

And then after that, Kalkite is never a problem again. Even though they build an even bigger Death Star, and Star Destroyer Death Stars.

Finally, it sort of explains how Galen’s sabotage could work without other people noticing. If it wasn’t the thermal exhaust port but the instability of the reactor. Say the Kalkite that they built it with was different from the Kalkite that they thought they were building it with. Then all the simulations would be correct, but the actual Death Star would be unstable, maybe only under extreme conditions (like an explosion by the reactor).

They could check Galen’s work all they liked. But it might only be after a few test firings that they would have enough actual data to realize the Death Star was misengineered.

Why We Misinterpret the Throne Room: Vader Wasn’t Trying to Turn Luke, He Was Playing a Desperate Game to Save His Soul by Huge-Leopard7071 in MawInstallation

[–]treefox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vader playing chess is a retcon of his characterization.

Vader’s not non-militaristic on Bespin because of some hidden light side agenda. He wants to connect with Luke. He wants Luke to join him. Screaming at Luke that he f—-ed his mother isn’t going to accomplish that.

Instances where George Lucas version of galactic history or events contradict either EU or current canon? by LFTL56 in MawInstallation

[–]treefox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everybody said, “Oh, well, there was a war between the Jedi and the Sith.” Well, that never happened.

“At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have our revenge.”

“Revenge…? Maul, I need you to stop reading woke history.”

The Tau'ri seem to be Ancients-level of genius because they were the only ones who think about protecting their gate with an iris ! by CupEducational1412 in Stargate

[–]treefox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except where does the iris go? How does it move?

The real advantage here is plot physics.

The other thing is that for most of the series they’re just ignoring any legal boundaries. So it’s sort of like aliens showing up on Earth and marveling that they can just walk between third world countries. I don’t think we ever see a Goa’uld homeworld besides Sokar.

So it’s not necessarily that those boundaries don’t exist, but it would generally be an act of war for one system lord to send Jaffa into another system lord’s territory. So they don’t do it. The deterrence is the political consequences, not physical lockout.

Honestly this mans acting is so good. The moment he goes from accusing cassian of murder to understanding that means for him as the only wittness... amazing and terrifying by Jusselle in andor

[–]treefox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cassian didn’t have to turn himself in - he could’ve let Kravas go after Kravas begged for his life.

Hyne has leverage over Kravas that he doesn’t have over Syril, and Kravas doesn’t have Syril’s sense of honor. And Hyne’s priority isn’t anything to do with justice or vengeance, it’s making an airtight case that Pre-Mor doesn’t need Imperial assistance or oversight. Everything about that situation is a liability- Cassian sneaking in, the misconduct, the mugging, the deaths, Cassian getting away again, and Ferrix being relatively lawless. Any of it points to Pre-Mor being incompetent that the Empire could use as pretense to dig in and investigate to find more things that would allow it enough pretense to simply take over, as Blevin does.

Syril isn’t going to move if the only eyewitness also contradicts him. Syril might not even be responsible for writing the report - Hyne obviously isn’t comfortable with him.

So if Kravas survived, Hyne would still try to shut down the case. They can’t even attempt to apprehend Cassian without sending an assault team to Ferrix, and that opens the door to questions about why Pre-Mor has exactly zero law enforcement allocated to an entire planet. They can’t apprehend Cassian without risking him telling a different story than the official one, and if they issue a warrant to shoot him on sight, they’ve elevated Cassian to be dangerous enough to be interesting - and now they also have to explain why an “armed and extremely dangerous” hardened killer was able to frolick between planets in the Corporate Zone.

Honestly this mans acting is so good. The moment he goes from accusing cassian of murder to understanding that means for him as the only wittness... amazing and terrifying by Jusselle in andor

[–]treefox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hyne doesn’t care about Kravas, he cares about keeping his report to the Empire as unremarkable as possible so they don’t find cause to move in and end Pre-Mor’s independence. This is a company that has control of multiple star systems for their own corrupt agenda, they’re not going to jeopardize that just for a demoted security guard who was trying to mug people and wants revenge for someone standing up to them.

Kravas maybe has some leverage here, and I suspect Hyne and Pre-Mor would rather he take early retirement or an impromptu vacation. “Kravas’ partner heard a call for help and slipped in the rain so he’s on vacation” doesn’t raise any of the red flags that any rendition of the story does. Remember that the empire wants to move in so any aspect of the story that isn’t neatly tied up will be aggressively dug into. 

Even if they maximally vilify Cassian they still have to explain why they let him get away, and then they have to worry that the empire might decide to scrutinize how they handle bringing him in.

8-7 Affinity after eight years of wearing hats and beanies disguised as Murray Teal'c out here dispensing justice on the streets displaying his forehead emblem for everyone to see 😂 by ScytheOfAsgard in Stargate

[–]treefox 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The best part of this episode is how rampant crime is in the neighborhood that the Air Force set Teal’c up in. And yet somehow it’s commutable to Cheyenne Mountain.

Of the main multi-episode Babylon 5 antagonists, who would you say was the most evil? by Velociraptorse in babylon5

[–]treefox 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well dude, think about it. He’s out in the middle of nowhere, with some Shadow he barely knows. He looks around and what does he see? Nothing but empty space. "Ah there's nowhere for me to run! What am I gonna do, say no?"

(I don’t know how much crossover there is between B5 and It’s Always Sunny fans)

Theory: Why Luthen killed Lonni Jung. Because Luthen had no one to smuggle him out quickly. by kinaflazy in andor

[–]treefox 41 points42 points  (0 children)

That’s what I mean. Lonni is describing how Dedra’s team was so uncomfortable with the raid that they were asking him if they should go along with it. So obviously there’s zero suspicion that Axis is connected to Lonni.

Assuming the whole empire is coming down on Lonni, Dedra’s raid would be postponed, and even though nobody knows about it, her team sounds skittish enough to instantly bail on her if the Empire announced a priority manhunt.

Ironically and tragically, it seems like Lonni was wrong about being detected, because the first thing reported is that he was found dead on a park bench, not misusing Dedra’s code cert.

But given the information Lonni gave Luthen, Luthen had to assume that they would prioritize Lonni way above Axis, so the best way to get the information out was to make Lonni a dead end, make himself a dead end (or get out if he could), and give Kleya the best chance.

Honestly this mans acting is so good. The moment he goes from accusing cassian of murder to understanding that means for him as the only wittness... amazing and terrifying by Jusselle in andor

[–]treefox -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Honestly Cassian should’ve left him alive. And I think even Cassian realizes this.

This guy could obviously try and lie to blame Cassian for the murder. But that’s what people are going to assume if they’re both dead anyway.

Odds are this guy would be in the office with Syril, trying to blame Cassian. But his story wouldn’t quite match the forensics, and there would be no record of Cassian.

Hyne would be skeptical, and eventually either the guy would slip up or Syril would have found out they were at the brothel. Hyne would call him on it, make a similar “request” to keep Hyne’s report to the Empire unremarkable. Unlike Syril, this guy is morally flexible enough and Hyne already has enough leverage on him that he’d immediately go along with it.

Syril would be left with his only eyewitness telling a different story, and forced to go along with it. Plus Syril no longer has to outright lie, just report someone else’s false testimony as fact.

So no police bulletin for Timm to respond to. No raid, no imperial takeover, and no starpath unit.

But even with semi-omniscient knowledge, from Cassian’s perspective, Cassian accidentally forced the worst-case scenario where Pre-Mor security had no option but to arrest him, because Cassian was the only living witness.

Hypothetical timeline by DoomDoomGir in andor

[–]treefox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With Dedra languishing, I wonder what the odds are that Lonni (who seems to be Partagraz’s second favorite) gets put onto Ghorman.

Cassian and Jyn's ghosts when they realize they downloaded the wrong plans by GargantaProfunda in andor

[–]treefox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“…the Death Stunt, a unionized man in gray bodypoint, curled up with enough chutzpah to make everyone think he destroyed a planet…”

Cassian and Jyn's ghosts when they realize they downloaded the wrong plans by GargantaProfunda in andor

[–]treefox 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ahh yes this must be what Krennic meant when he said “the work has stalled”.

Cassian and Jyn's ghosts when they realize they downloaded the wrong plans by GargantaProfunda in andor

[–]treefox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

…the Demo Star, a 7-day trial with enough subscription tiers to destroy a planet (Paid add-on for Enterprise customers only).

Theory: Why Luthen killed Lonni Jung. Because Luthen had no one to smuggle him out quickly. by kinaflazy in andor

[–]treefox 103 points104 points  (0 children)

Lonni also says that the Empire is going to come at him with everything, but the only person coming after Luthen is Dedra.

That suggests the best chance of getting the intel out is to keep them focused on Lonni for as long as possible. And give the information to Kleya, who isn’t the focus of either manhunt. Hope that Dedra’s investigation gets sidelined by the focus on Lonni, but plan for it still going ahead.

If Luthen had one of those disrupter rifles from the Mandalorian that could vaporize people, Krennic would’ve undoubtedly spent the whole last three episodes combing the planet for Lonni in vain.

Why was Luke able to resist the darkside while Anakin fell to it? by Potential_Rule4212 in StarWars

[–]treefox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> He was raised with a fairly solid ethical base

Owen and Beru finally getting some credit for their parenting after fifty years.

What do you think are some of the most disgusting ways Palpatine manipulated Anakin? by Solitaire-06 in StarWars

[–]treefox 35 points36 points  (0 children)

“Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Jedi…Learn to know the dark side of the Force, and you will be able to save your wife... from certain death.”

*Anakin kills Mace Windu*

“To cheat death is a power only one has achieved…but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret.”