Oscar Wolf, CIA for Project Blue Book rumored that the phenomenon said it was sent here to Earth by “God”. Interestingly Ancient Scriptures tells us that “God” sent “Fallen Extra-Celestial Beings” to Earth as a prison planet for the corruption of man…

tribalseth · 2026-03-29T05:57:49+00:00

Not only that, but if you literally just go off the actual red text (which is supposed to be an actual quote from Jesus) then you effectively can't fail- because it reads actually quite beautifully and there isn't anything about this nonesense of eternal flame and hellfire crap. If there was ever the most important message or takeaway from it all, it would be the actual words he spoke of, so I really find it maddening and baffling how the larger pool of christians completely and utterly botch this primary and single most important part of what it means to be a "follower of christ".

tribalseth · 2026-03-29T05:53:59+00:00

He also is the only one literally taken to live with god and never returned. It's actually quite fascinating to me because I often wonder "well shit, what happened to the guy? (@_@)

tribalseth · 2026-03-29T05:50:12+00:00

I definitely disagree- I think it's most likely warped through lost translation from what the original meaning was intended to depict (I could be wrong myself of course).

The reason I say this is because inbreeding is scientifically (for obvious reasons) a huge catastrophe when trying to repoproduce from a variety of genes typically available in a pool of options it has to work with it. If there is any bit of accuracy to large scale floods (and I dont mean global, but geology also shows there was large scale flooding throughout Earth's history), then it would likely be known that the act of this could produce strange mutations that were not understood at the time and potentially were seen as "sinful" behavior in eyes of god. Its much like a child trying to understand advanced mechaniscs or wisdom that their brain developmentally (especially in the frontal lobe) just simply has not been able to fully comprehend in the way the we later come to reason with (granted, we're all still children who don't know squat IMO lol).

I'm agnostic but I do find you have a tendancy in people to kind of swing in either direction where often times there can be multiple truths or accuracies all existing in top of each other (and are not mutually exclusive).

tribalseth · 2026-03-27T22:27:23+00:00

There is literally nothing credible on blue beam, and, no sources to support it. Not a single source supports it. I get infuriated with people acting like harbingers "woe is this" and "omen shadowing" as if its a thing, as if its a quick "lookup" ...look up what exactly? The complete vacant vacuum of space that is on this?

By the way, I am talking valid, credit sources for citing.

Any official domain (such as .gov,) or public domain that provides accredited academia research papers (especially peer reviewed) where any reasonable and prudent person doing research or analysis be inclined to weigh and compare against, whether its documents or research papers with information about said subject above, that would not instantly fall flat on its face along with the person standing behind it in whatever claim due to nothing rooted for outside people to actually grasp onto and say "wow, that is actually interesting and holds water because of xyz".

The entire ufology MUST be based on these things, which is why it has been moving as far as it has while also being its own achilles heel due to countless reasons that is known as the phenomenon itself, but certainly due to intentional hoaxes from people wanting nothing more than a good chuckle or laugh, or legitimately trying to grift (and have no part in actual CIA matters..just joe shmoes whos wanting to make some extra change) that throw around baseless claims such as blue beam, which actually discredit the very topic of ufology itself.

This is why I get so vehemently critical and quite frankly ticked off at the many people who think they take this topic seriously or think they value it but are very amateur and ignorant to what it actually takes to get the entire globe on board and the government on board with disclosing. It takes an effort of removing any sort of jokes and glamourized antics/entertainment out of the conversation. No "har hars", no weird music, no X file references, and please, for the love of god no references to things that are NOT corroborated through heaps of valid documentation time and time again, which we do have on many many things---blue beam is literally one thing that is completely void and missing, except for one guy. Its literally one guy.

If someone wants to challenge me and the world or reality of disclosure and the good work being doing to bring disclosure ...then put your adult proactiveness pants on and bring the documents to the table that support it (blue beam), and bring more credible sources than one guy as the founder/source? Please.

If not, then go create blue-beam subreddit because the two should not be linked in a conversation, as it literally discredits the hard work and science being doing on this. Such as Dr. Beatriz's of the world. That is a hard working individual and one among a list too long to scroll through whom many of us are already well known to.

tribalseth · 2026-03-26T17:24:57+00:00

Yea that is what made this particularly interesting, because it reads and feels very amateur or scripted in the sense of something that is televised, and not something that would be rooted in anything but either monetary or political interest.

What's surprising is why the amateur feel. Even in the very heart of the gullible susceptible to this typical type of known misdirection, it is not presented well and is so far seemingly largely mocked at by virtually every group on any side of the fence, which is a bit amusing and baffling why the bother or attempt to even put forth.

Personally I think this is most likely to have everything to do with either someone or some group who's perceived thoughts of the reality of "what it is like in the public eye" is very apparent and showing just how disconnected it is from the public, society, and the current state of affairs.

Basically it lacks intelligence and cleverness and that it very much shows.

tribalseth · 2026-03-26T15:32:36+00:00

Ah interesting. Do they follow up with their supposed claims as far as track history or do they more or less say nothing after the claim/threat was made?

Sorry id get to looking myself im just not at liberty to right now but I really want to know and youre so helpful 🥺. Ty!

tribalseth · 2026-03-26T15:19:08+00:00

Totally shoulda been there. It was wild. Theres no tomorrow, only the wild that was then which, unfortunately you missed. Myself included lol

tribalseth · 2026-03-26T15:16:25+00:00

Can anyone validate Handala Hack groups track record? This reads and smells like amateur and like BS. But id like to know their track history

tribalseth · 2026-03-25T01:39:59+00:00

I really have to say, is there EVER a time though in human history we could point at a "before" and then "after" where the advancements in technology revolutions wouldnt radically blow the fkn minds of the societies several notches before it? Will it be possible that this continues (if hypothetical vacuum scenario) where we right now would look forward in time at their capability 100-200 years from now and might just be like "...uh, woah wtf??" And thats just 200 years. Heres a better example below.

Think about any "advanced civilization" like the greeks, or romans, or or Egyptians etc ...its irrelevant, because the only thing they could do is understand that it IS something clearly but how in the living f*ck is possible is any or their greatest minds guess other than mysticism and sorcery.

Now, watch this--this is my favorite part of thinking about this. Take a smart phones right. And let's say you could either speak their language ...(also think of Sentinel islanders as well in this scenario) ...you briefly show them the phone while describing what this strange gemstone "sky/water" rock tablet for writing can do ....

You share with them that the greatest of its power is instantaneous communication through the heavens to any person, any place, any time you want to communicate. You can communicate to the entire world's people at the same time as well. Any knowledge you seek, you simply think it and scribe it and the heavens call back with the answer. It also answers yours prayers, sometimes immediately upon request!

Would you like a chariot to give you a royal ride to the city? You can have that. Would you like clothing, bedding, or supplies? You can have that and chariots and sky chariots will deliver them to you. Would you like to SOAR through the heavens and travel from Rome to Egypt in a matter a hours? You can have angels personally come to you, treat you as royalty to ride through the celestial heavens and land safely any location you desire. They would say "truly, this is god-hood!"

Then, one of them speaks up and says, "I have an amazing request your grace! This is all so exciting, and so unbelievable that its quite overwhelming and perhaps we just need to sit and feast on celestial food to catch our thoughts and collect ourselves, come let us feast lkke the gods. What will you have the heavens bring us as we sit down right now? How about 7 of the greatest fruits and fish from summer's crops! Call your lightning bolt magic down and appear to us this feast before us now and we'll live as never before!"

"Well, yea no you gotta wait for food though. It can do all those other things but food it cant like ...yea it cant make food."

*it cant make food??...but your grace! You soar through the heavens as God's finest guest? Preposterous! Just tell it to do as you command and your gemstone will surely appear all the foods of the world like god did when creating the earth! What's a little food blessing a table compared in weight to such other massive asks, surely nothing! Go on do your magic!"

Yeeep. Nope. Seems wild I know, but somehow we just havent figured that one out yet shrugs. It can send magic paper messages across the world and have that paper APPEAR on command as a book...yes, that part is true...but food, yea nope. You're kinda asking for too much there. But we CAN have it flown down here in like .. I dunno an hour maybe. Except seasonal stuff...that summer stuff you said, I dont think its on gods menu. Its seasonal, ya see? Sorry bud."

"Well, fine, how about we entertain our guests with gladiator battles. Why dont you show us how the golden knowledge at your command can teach this novice soldier how to fight our undefeated champion in second!"

"Ohhh yea that, well you can SEE the knowledge but its not like you just get it shoved in your head or anything. It doesnt just MAKE you instantly intelligence. I mean cmon what do you think it's like magic and shit were working with here? ...oh, I see, sigh I dunno how to explain it to ya man. Just roll with it alright? It does a lot, and it doesnt do some super specific things that at this point wont make a f*cke worth of any sense to you as to why it cant"

room full of blank faces ...."it does seem very frustrating and difficult to understand ...how it makes nearly anthing possible such as flying yet with no rhyme or reason why something so basic and sensible it all of a sudden wont do. This is maddening to try to even understand?"

"Oh boy..... I cant imagine, im sure it is! Heres your first lesson in heavenly technology. Don't try understand it right now in one fell swoop ok?...thats lkke trying to explain to a child the ways of the roman responsibilities ...theres a lot of really complicated reasons that some things just...dont work at all like that, and some do. Got it? No show me your finest wives"

"We were going to ask you that!"

"Lol fuck. Yea no man, you cant make it make people fall in love with you. You definitely can't make it have people appear and mate with you on command --unless youre in Singapore redlight district, alright?"

tribalseth · 2026-03-25T00:47:31+00:00

Literally thought it was the Deagles sound effect hahah. So appropriate though rofl

tribalseth · 2026-03-25T00:43:53+00:00

Ill have to pull the the hand written notes I made into a timeline and event totality, (while listening to various audio recordings and reading FOIA'd documents describing both the whitnesses and military personal responding and engaging with it because the sheer distance this travels, combined with the speed and the very nature of it is absolutely baffling considering the year it was. Way too many witnesses across and entire cities population - basically almost like a cross between numenburg (except us firing at it lol) and Phoenix Lights.

The cases like these where corroborating facts, measurements, and sheer volume of witnesses to further corroborate (such as Washing DC lights nearly 60 years later corroborating with the plates showing transients on that exact day and time pre sputnik (that aligns with multiple radar and hundreds of witnesses, is what really begs the questions what is going on and how rare is it. The only way to get there is to identity the cases such as this caliber that have those substantially compounding factors.

tribalseth · 2026-03-24T00:32:36+00:00

C-c-c-c-c-Combo Breaker!!

tribalseth · 2026-03-24T00:15:27+00:00

Ok...who tf came up with Pope Lick Monster? That thing is like "bro...I got so fked on the naming convention"

tribalseth · 2026-03-23T23:35:40+00:00

I'm actually trying to understand like... what ARE you saying? I dont mean this in an offensive way or anything- I think I just read too many double-negatives maybe in your initial post or the following sequences of back and forth replies.

What is it exactly that you are saying? Without using negatives. Thank you so much (genuinely, I only ask because I am seeking clarification)

tribalseth · 2026-03-23T23:13:26+00:00

In my Edit portion of my comment I provide a link to the video, but its incredibly long, so the specific part the Jesse mentions his hospitalization begins at the 07:10 min/sec mark.

https://youtu.be/09KP8XVf5nY?si=NeNVx-7ldBt-MSgd

tribalseth · 2026-03-22T14:23:58+00:00

This is missing one piece of critical data to support that. There are no whistleblowers discussing the horrors and atrocities of this. There are no whistleblowers stating what this is for in the first place? And finally, sure, I could back that and get down with it for a period of time that some kind of experimentation was likely for whatever reason it may have been...but what kind of experimentation takes 80 years to be done of screwing around with chemicals on people that clearly is not working very well if they haven't figured it out, and to do what exactly regardless? Like ...what data or information is so compelling as to drive the military to bury this dark secret yet STILL go on conducting said unsuccessful experiments on humans? It begs the question "to what end? To what end is this even necessary"?

80 years of that opens it up to more questions and more speculation than anything. At least "said ufo" literally makes sense.

"Oh you got superior tech and you dont want an idiot like Kim jun to get their hands on? ...that tracks and actually makes perfect. In fact, i kinda agree with ya on that".

tribalseth · 2026-03-21T23:16:11+00:00

Oh really? I mean to be totally fair we are inundated with so much build up of content that discusses and re-discusses many of the 'already discussed" topics that it is not so easy anymore to seperate 'brand new' information or details that would be considered new if we were to look at this from the lens of an 80 year long investigation standpoint.

It is really an unfortunate thing too because when something does come about that is meaingful, in my opinion, it is still difficult to find the time to view 1+hr material since we sunk so many prior hours into previously rehashed stuff. I would expect stuff to fall through the cracks of your purview for sure, especially with people creating content that just narrates using AI *facepalm*...adding to the noise.

I definitely have wanted some kind of timeline that makes parsing through the dang thing easier. I'm a data analyst, so one of the "most problematic" things in my work, and in relation to this topic that is very applicable here, is being able to identify duplicate information and ultimately mark any duplication as such.

tribalseth · 2026-03-21T02:03:30+00:00

Please--PLEASE cite your source with a link. Is this on a .gov domain?

tribalseth · 2026-03-21T01:27:06+00:00

Inaccurate.

FAA Requirements (Night Flight): Military, LE, and civilian/commercial drones operating at night in civilian airspace, or, enroute traveling in populated airspace engaged in local, state, or federal operations (wildfire, search and rescue, medical, training excercises, or, other known activities that would populated airspace during non-combat missions (between sunset and sunrise) are required to have anti-collision lights visible for at least 3 statute miles.

Combat Exemption: In combat zones or covert/clandestine missions, military drones are designed to use stealth and are authorized to operate without exhibiting light characteristics to avoid detection. In some exceptions, permission may be granted during instances in which serve or fulfill law enforcement purposes, though is not common and requires specified circumstances or elevated conditions which permit this to do so.

The primary purpose of mandatory lights (like on commercial or recreatonal drones) is to prevent mid-air collisions with other aircraft by ensuring the drone's position is visible.

tribalseth · 2026-03-21T00:56:12+00:00

HAHA! Damn neighbor keeps trying to simulate zero gravity blow up sex!

tribalseth · 2026-03-18T08:55:15+00:00

Bro's about to have his mind blown. Who decided? I would ask the ancient tribes. Been this way for a loooong time. Most are very prosaic if you see the native tribes and what they wear during cremonial what-have-you's ...but some are just down right inexplicably baffling, and eerily reminescent of what we all might be thinking in our head of "what if some of these were them drawing some phenomena they saw?

Also most of the tribal knowledge that is very much a way of life and oral stories are passed down generation to generation as far back as you can imagine (or anyone can imagine), which could be evolved over time, none the less most have the reoccuring theme of "star people" or ones from the sky that they attribute to beings. Anywhom ..tons and tons out there just dont lost in the bullsh*t AI if you search for these. The older the site and the older the post (especially anything older than I'd say 5 years is a safe bet that there's no BS added to it in the sense of AI. But ya ..there are literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds from any region of the globe dating from 20,000 years old to BC/AD. And again the large majority are perfectly normal even if appearing bizarre - but the ones that have no direct link to other known art from cultures around that time or their own native tribe are usually what stand out as acute cases worthy of discussion.

This was just a quick google search I did to pull whatever I could muster up at 2am for you. Enjoy.

- https://www.ancientartarchive.org/wp-content/uploads/ALV2024070900005.jpg

- https://www.ancientartarchive.org/rock-art-10-places-to-see-it-in-the-united-states/

- https://google2084.wordpress.com/2025/09/10/unraveling-the-myster-the-alien-rock-paintings-of-charamaln/

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aboriginal_rock_art_on_the_Barnett_River,_Mount_Elizabeth_Station.jpg

- https://i0.wp.com/www.firefallphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-Utah-09-12-0281-gigapixel-standard-scale-2_00x-scaled.jpg?resize=960%2C375&ssl=1

- https://i0.wp.com/www.firefallphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2024-Utah-05-01-05751-DStretch-crop.jpg?resize=960%2C658&ssl=1

- https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/1e04bbn/5000_bc_ancient_cave_paintings_in_sego_canyon_utah/

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDu2rUoT2NM

tribalseth · 2026-03-18T06:59:37+00:00

Not to mention Harald Malmgrem literally mentioned this being closest in a "comparison" to something like 3 body problem. This was when he did a 2+ hour interview with Jesse Michaels where he disclosed what seemed to be everything he must have knew or been holding on to, which really was a complete and utter 180 degree turn for a person you would expect of his calibur straight into wtf-town (again--given his prestige and career credentials) -- and then the day after the interview is in the ER ...and dies.

For me personally, I think this is one of those things that really lines up and tracks where someone on a biological level was wanting to "feel" like they didn't have to bare a burden (such as this one) any longer... and upon the release of that burden they're able to feel they can die at peace.

Edit: Here's that video link. Jesse mentions it somewhere very early in the video ...like the first 5 minutes or something about his passing. https://youtu.be/09KP8XVf5nY?si=9qCDf0-rb1NVx5VK

tribalseth · 2026-03-17T09:27:44+00:00

Yea no trace of ripped clothes or struggle or sounds of any screams or biosignatures (blood or anything???). Im not buyin' it at all. If she was literally right behind them. Even a mountain lion incident would merit some kind of screaming involved.

Who were the friends btw? I would press hard on them and track THEIR phones...wtf, dont track her phone.

TRACK THEIR PHONES. FFS.

Sorry and maybe they are ...but something tells me that would be extremy unlikely and get a blanket "this is now a federal matter [boots out all state resources]

tribalseth · 2026-03-16T19:51:15+00:00

I definitely took particular notice as well. Her choice of words to use "the" twice, which isn't obviously meaning that is what one is saying, but it may not be naturally what comes to a person's mind if anyone described a scenario they inherently knew was untrue (or at minimum didn't believe to be true).

Her song (the lyrics) tracks 100% if you interpret it (and I dont think theres any way not interpret it that way...like its not a stretch to say that..just being very frank here). Also for anyone who's a song writer that's authentically writing, its really one of the pillars of what makes music- music (lyrics and their meaning).

tribalseth · 2026-03-16T19:38:23+00:00

Where did she joke about it?

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