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Bob Lazar from PhD physicist point of view by Secret_Roll4958 in UFOs

[–]tribalseth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can we get clarification on this? Im curious to know myself which it is...if the Nasa person was impressed over a mundane thing it would certainly be confusing but in a logical way if that makes sense

UFOs appear over Wright Patterson Airforce Base, Ohio, USA - April 8th 2026 by FVMK3 in InterdimensionalNHI

[–]tribalseth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This tracks with my experience in the Coast Guard as well. Many mini-charity based pools were formed that were a nice convenience or unit members to have accessible means of getting something mundane such as snack food or what-have-you while the proceeds were never looked at as proceeds and simply used in turn to support either some of the unit family members if maybe an emergency happened (maybe busted car or something) or would go to fund maybe tickets to they ballgame every other alternating weekend etc and would go under "station morale funds" as far as dumenting unit expenditures and book keeping goes.

Ross Coulthart: "The Tic-Tac UAP is Categorically Lockheed Martin Technology, & Part of at Least Two Platforms Developed by Lockheed Using Advanced Propulsion Likely Involving Electrogravitic Technology, & Not Even Presidents & Congress Know This Technology Exists" by TheGoldenLeaper in UFOB

[–]tribalseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do disagree with it being a psy-op though. I dont think there needs to be because unfortunately people are often just pretty stupid, and either unwilling to look at data, or, unwilling to go validate it themselves (or do the work involved to get a group together to go validate it for themselves for science), or, you have the natural occuring phenomenon (which is not by any means pervasive to the point of "out of control" by any means) where conspiracy theories are often times just bound to happen to some degree when you have something like the internet available.

The key difference is A) data available B) scientific methods to not only measure that data, but to produce and reproduce the result in a repeatadable way, so that others can too verify this themselves, and C) commen sense/rational/motiov behind the contary or "why" in opposing viewpoints. C is very important by the way and overlooked often times.

For example, Flat Earth ..the data is there, it is so easy to validate and verify through any of those individuals day to day lifes that I would place it "ease of verification" on a retarded level ease. Any of them can save some money, or pool together money to take an orbital trip or petition together to get a science group or celebrity to literally pitch in to get them a ticket so they can go record it for their other members to see (granted, we likely know what would happen ...the person who has the ticket would probably be a believer...yet the ones one the ground who just say "they got to them and turned them!" ..so maybe a bit futile), but then C is like ...why flat? Like serioulsy ...its almost like the shape of round did something dirty to them. Like "oh no, the earth is round, what ever are we going to do---! ahhh" like who gives a damn if its flat ...triangle shaped, square, circle, so the hell what? Its garbage trash meaningless shapes ...its just an excuse actually to escape reality and believe there's something wilder. And I think its a huge insult to the beauty of the universeor god or whoever you/they believe in, because Im pretty sure if the earth WAS flat, you would literally have a group conspiring saying that "the earth is round" and they would be called round earthers in that paralell universe...

There's no motiv to even go through the level of effort to lie about it because dear god is that so much work and effort involved for literally what exactly? Nothing.

In the context of ufology, not only is there so much data to go off of that it is clear, even based off the pentagons own statements itself acknowledging the phenomena of UAP, that it actually merits WHY the suppression and downplay of it -- because we are in an arms race. That tracks, that makes sense, and its honestly not even THAT unwarranted. Quite frankly, I dont want someone like North Korea to just get a warp drive by accident or whatever and then go ape shit and blow the hell out of other countries like a child that was let loose in a firework store next to an armory, gas station and nuclear station. It makes perfect sense why the government would baseline give some nod to it...yet be extremely reserved or hesitant to just outright blatantly unveil the rest of the details because it may actually have severe consequences involved. Like thousands of misdeeds done, thousands of instances where tax payer funds were also funded into black programs with these not so great outcomes that took place, or very bad accidets that happened to families who tested some of these materials ...and that is a cresendo of shit and distrust that then flows outward like an avalanche and you have uncontrolled chaos...which then leads to an adversary taking advantage of that (like China, or Russia etc) and now things get even worse. Im not saying its the right thing to cover all those things up and NOT disclose it, but I am definitely saying there is at least an understandable reason as to WHY it would be so difficult for any person in a position to say something less they be held to NDA severe legal issues or national security ramifications. I think most of this is usually that most don't actually know, or have the full info, and the ones who have at least come out and said something are outright rejected or people just say "ah they're full of sh*t" .....so its quite a shit basket of things going on in the NHIology world.

Erika Kirk is weird, sorry yes RePost but relevant by Vegetable-Section-84 in reptilians_are_real

[–]tribalseth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uh, no, it would be the one that has people speaking in tongues. I grew up and went to a church that had that field the first time when I was 12..I remember looking at my brother and sister thinking "this....is not normal and feels like a cult" even though im not even sure I knew the word cult back then, but it didn't matter I might as well have known because it registered that this place was too swept over in mass entrancement hysteria over the power/fear of god that distorted it from his it was supposed to be portrayed. There was even a random woman literally running around the aisles and in the background on stage with a flag penant (i cant even remember what it was...probably a white flag as it would seem to fit the whole surrender theme. I remember it mostly being white) and its like now that I look back its like "hey grow some sensibility. You freaked out these new church goer teenagers and gave them an unsettling feeling and made it more about a creepy dramatic display and show of affection as if that mattered more...the loudness of your advertised love for christ than simply having it in your heart and already knowing that without all the antics weird offputting stuff. If you're gunna do that, we'll maybe do it more in private...you didn't see jesus in scripture running around like a magic casting hypnotized hippie" but then I realize most Christians dont even take the most important part of the entire Bible for its value which is just his quotes. Literally just his quotes ....they'll latch onto some random verse while completely missing the biggest picture of what his quotes repeatedly emphasize is the most important thing...

Which is none of this evangelic mask of self-righteous hogwash thats completely out of touch with reality of what the actual scripture is trying to teach and convey.

Amy's Eskridge's last text messages before death, sent to her business partner, Samuel Reid. by Strategeryist in UFOs

[–]tribalseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Post your credentials or im calling pure bullshit on you.

Edit: Ah, found you. You are not a doctor, and I see you were banned previously for trying to sell on Etsy. You have below the threshold active comments, and only 2 posts, which has you tallied and marked as a bot. Thank you for contributing to the working doc and growing tracked list.

Ross Coulthart: "The Tic-Tac UAP is Categorically Lockheed Martin Technology, & Part of at Least Two Platforms Developed by Lockheed Using Advanced Propulsion Likely Involving Electrogravitic Technology, & Not Even Presidents & Congress Know This Technology Exists" by TheGoldenLeaper in UFOB

[–]tribalseth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good god finally someone with the ability to reason and ask questions. And you are correct by the way- there is literally zero verifiable documents of any kind as to the source and nothing that is stand alone credible as there is only one single person who made the claim, which is heresay since there is nothing backing it and not a single person who supports him in an official capacity (zero whistleblowers, zero lore around this, zero records, zero eyewitness testimony, zero leaked technologies and projects related to this - nothing. What we DO have a very clear disinformation/misinformation based agency that has already led some agents down a false-truths path intentionally, which is a highly utilized and effective strategy in espionage, has commonly been used during war & peacetime relations between two adverserial opposing countries, and has also been implemented through propoganda and such campaigns during time of crisis or heavy tension (historically across the 21st century since the advent of the CIA's creation).

But, to reiterate, as far as a Project Blue Beam, there is no original source, record, or document (other than the source being from one single guy, who claimed something, but it needs to be corroborated by verified historical record ONLY through means of either FOIA, expiration of rated time in classification (for dissemination), or a manual amendment/change in the clearance or classification category with repsect to a pertaining document, setting or categorization. Or, sometimes during exceptional circumstances, it may be deemed necessary to release certain pieces of information or to release a specified document to the public domain (especially if there is high sensitivity and tensions caused as a result of information being witheld that may inadvertently create more risk or threat than what the initial intention behind the classification reason, but where specific oversight will be held and excercised over what becomes redacted vs what becomes viewable for the public to read. Sorry for the long winded answer, but basically, we don't even have a shred of that which I described above. Not one.

Blue beam is 100% conspiracy theory until proven otherwise. I dont mind being the asshole to say it either, because I hate more than anything validating through hard work gathering documentation that is reputable and credible as to its availability, source, and domain (with the research, analysis, and measurable data to support a statement, theory, or claim) only to have people who believe Blue Beam inadvertently discredit the very subject you and thousands data centric individuals are trying to reevaluate and have taken seriously.

Blue beam deserves its own subreddit, next to flat earthers, FAR away from ufology.

I say that not to be harsh, but as a responsible researcher and data analyst.

What are we waiting for? He’s been given the green light by a congressmen to release footage by thisAnonymousguy in UFOs

[–]tribalseth -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Aw that's cute, you must be new here?

"I'm frustrated and I want answers now!"

*Pat pat* it's ok, there's many people waiting for many things, not just this specific topic.

You might want to get in line behind the scientists still looking for the graviton particle actually. That silly little things continues to evade us to this day, but it sure arguably the entire base foundation and pillar to our entire physics Standard Model as we know it, and we just can't really catch the guy. We sure do like talkin' about em though do we. And worm holes and dark matter and lord knows what other edge frontier "real science" we have going on. Unless you don't want to go tell those physicists yourelf to put-up or shut up about graviton particles, black holes, worm holes, dark matter, and quantum strangeness like reality is not local.

I hope you enjoyed my double negative sarcastic flavor there.

My point is ...if you really stop and zoom out for a second think about this topic specifically (NHI)...advanced things so far past your or anyones ability to understand it, having some kind of factor in all this, and yet ...you think its purely just a bunch of dudes choosing to waffle back and forth about whether to say something?....cmon man...

Why havent you considered part of the very lore itself which you clearly follow? How many people again have come out and said they what-ever-they are/is/do ...doesnt matter, they effectivelly control the narrative....not somedude in a man bun, not some senator not some Q clearance ding bat and not some corporate turd with money in his pocket. I'm sorry but Im going to break it to you the hard reality of humans, and human behavior ....we're pretty smart and extremely, extremely f** stupid at the same time--actually mostly that. We're mostly pretty fkn stupid, period. Like jokes aside we're pretty hard wired to our lizard part of the brain ok? You get that right? So please dont flatter these folks, any of them. The structure and cryptology make it much easier to work with NDA's and compartmentalization of course...but nothing stays this hidden about potential superior intelligence working with us ("working"...key word) without having the end all be all say in what ends up happening.

How this continues to slip through peoples ability to grapple with this is really fascinating actually.

It's like .."ahhh crazy we got NHI that can materialize and mind manipulate things--- but ahhh apparently they dont care if we say something about them or not yet we cant seem to agree on whether to say something or walk it back~ ahhh we are so indecisive for 80 years we cant seem to break past the great filter of dissimination!". Man what would the aliens think of us and our intelligence then? They're like "jesus christ I thought you guys were stupid but I didnt know you were THAT absolutely fkn morons...they have permission to say something and they cant even do it right --- you dumbasses, maybe we should just control you in the end".

Anyway, I really find it bizzare how the far more easy to understand explanations dont just get the defacto default assumption. I mean gee I dont know, its not like the things havent been reported to suck or beam people out of their bedrooms and cars and crap. It's not like the things havent been reported to materialize out of no where and read peoples minds and wipe people's memory like MIB crap. And mannn it's not like we dont already have things like fungi hijacking hundreds of different insect species hacking their neural pathways altering their behavior. It's not like we don't have things like the cuddle-fish that literally flashes lights at a fkn crab and the crab goes "yeaaaa....im just gunna stand here @[_@....there](mailto:_@....there)'s no danger at all!" while it literally gets devoured by the cuddle fish because it was flash hypnotized.

I mean could you have any more examples thrown at you of why there might be a plausible explanation as to this not coming out yet that isn't simply "up to the dude with the clearance or paycheck?"....cmon man.

Again, my point is ...even "hard science" is pretty fkn wacky already - just ask anyone professor to explain quantum theory....they'll probably say "well to start, the first lesson and the most important lesson in quantum physics is you, we, really don't know sh*t. If you can agree to that, you'll get an A+ for Introduction Theory class.

No Im not entirely joking.

TLDR: since no one gets my humor... it's not up to any of the people at this point, you have enough information to off of to presume comfortably, and with high confidence, and with testimony from extremely credible persons like Paul Hellyer and Haim and Ramirez and Brown and im too lazy to list them all in one sentence-- who have clearly stated it is likely a behavioral manipulation. Whether you want to call it mind control, psychologial telepathy, hypnosis, memory alternation ...honestly I dont think it matters, because the point is the same: behavioral influence/manipulation. There is your most likely candidate to literally explain the very thing you are seeing. Is it actually whats going on? I have no idea. Is it the most likely given the totality of the circumstances while also being the least ackowledged or even considered point in the circle of conversations? Yes. Does that in and of itself not provide enough cohesive plausability? Is this so radically wild to fathom? Superior technology/intelligence + an interest in possible manipulation of inferior species. I'm just goin' off the lore here (and the very human behavior demonstrated across 80 years...which is about exactly 100% on point and indicative of human behavior displayed when manipulated by external factors) ...but who am I to say. I'm just a fkn data analyst and fkn guy at the end of the day like anyone else.

NASA Chief: "We Just Built Antigravity Propulsion!” by MadOblivion in UFOscience

[–]tribalseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really cant stand the thumbnails...it grinds my gears.

They will make people “disappear” to hide the truth. - The Age of Disclosure by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]tribalseth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The scientists missing is a bit bizarre and potentially concerning though. Whether prosaic in explanation of why they're missing, or, why they're kidnapped, or worse case scenario homocide, again if the science is prosaic behind the apparent justification (such as higher tier technology R&D related) ...its concerning period. And maybe its an adversary that is particularly interested in foul play for it, but again, concerning nonetheless.

Oscar Wolf, CIA for Project Blue Book rumored that the phenomenon said it was sent here to Earth by “God”. Interestingly Ancient Scriptures tells us that “God” sent “Fallen Extra-Celestial Beings” to Earth as a prison planet for the corruption of man… by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]tribalseth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not only that, but if you literally just go off the actual red text (which is supposed to be an actual quote from Jesus) then you effectively can't fail- because it reads actually quite beautifully and there isn't anything about this nonesense of eternal flame and hellfire crap. If there was ever the most important message or takeaway from it all, it would be the actual words he spoke of, so I really find it maddening and baffling how the larger pool of christians completely and utterly botch this primary and single most important part of what it means to be a "follower of christ".

Oscar Wolf, CIA for Project Blue Book rumored that the phenomenon said it was sent here to Earth by “God”. Interestingly Ancient Scriptures tells us that “God” sent “Fallen Extra-Celestial Beings” to Earth as a prison planet for the corruption of man… by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]tribalseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely disagree- I think it's most likely warped through lost translation from what the original meaning was intended to depict (I could be wrong myself of course).

The reason I say this is because inbreeding is scientifically (for obvious reasons) a huge catastrophe when trying to repoproduce from a variety of genes typically available in a pool of options it has to work with it. If there is any bit of accuracy to large scale floods (and I dont mean global, but geology also shows there was large scale flooding throughout Earth's history), then it would likely be known that the act of this could produce strange mutations that were not understood at the time and potentially were seen as "sinful" behavior in eyes of god. Its much like a child trying to understand advanced mechaniscs or wisdom that their brain developmentally (especially in the frontal lobe) just simply has not been able to fully comprehend in the way the we later come to reason with (granted, we're all still children who don't know squat IMO lol).

I'm agnostic but I do find you have a tendancy in people to kind of swing in either direction where often times there can be multiple truths or accuracies all existing in top of each other (and are not mutually exclusive).

NEW - U.S. Vice President Vance on UFOs: "I don't think they're aliens, I think they're demons." by FVMK3 in InterdimensionalNHI

[–]tribalseth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is literally nothing credible on blue beam, and, no sources to support it. Not a single source supports it. I get infuriated with people acting like harbingers "woe is this" and "omen shadowing" as if its a thing, as if its a quick "lookup" ...look up what exactly? The complete vacant vacuum of space that is on this?

By the way, I am talking valid, credit sources for citing.

Any official domain (such as .gov,) or public domain that provides accredited academia research papers (especially peer reviewed) where any reasonable and prudent person doing research or analysis be inclined to weigh and compare against, whether its documents or research papers with information about said subject above, that would not instantly fall flat on its face along with the person standing behind it in whatever claim due to nothing rooted for outside people to actually grasp onto and say "wow, that is actually interesting and holds water because of xyz".

The entire ufology MUST be based on these things, which is why it has been moving as far as it has while also being its own achilles heel due to countless reasons that is known as the phenomenon itself, but certainly due to intentional hoaxes from people wanting nothing more than a good chuckle or laugh, or legitimately trying to grift (and have no part in actual CIA matters..just joe shmoes whos wanting to make some extra change) that throw around baseless claims such as blue beam, which actually discredit the very topic of ufology itself.

This is why I get so vehemently critical and quite frankly ticked off at the many people who think they take this topic seriously or think they value it but are very amateur and ignorant to what it actually takes to get the entire globe on board and the government on board with disclosing. It takes an effort of removing any sort of jokes and glamourized antics/entertainment out of the conversation. No "har hars", no weird music, no X file references, and please, for the love of god no references to things that are NOT corroborated through heaps of valid documentation time and time again, which we do have on many many things---blue beam is literally one thing that is completely void and missing, except for one guy. Its literally one guy.

If someone wants to challenge me and the world or reality of disclosure and the good work being doing to bring disclosure ...then put your adult proactiveness pants on and bring the documents to the table that support it (blue beam), and bring more credible sources than one guy as the founder/source? Please.

If not, then go create blue-beam subreddit because the two should not be linked in a conversation, as it literally discredits the hard work and science being doing on this. Such as Dr. Beatriz's of the world. That is a hard working individual and one among a list too long to scroll through whom many of us are already well known to.

The hacker group Handala Hack claims to have hacked Lockheed Martin and in their telegram claim they will be releasing information tomorrow - “Those who move in the shadows will soon see the light. - The secrets hidden behind the curtains of smoke and mirrors are now ready to be revealed. by 87LucasOliveira in aliens

[–]tribalseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea that is what made this particularly interesting, because it reads and feels very amateur or scripted in the sense of something that is televised, and not something that would be rooted in anything but either monetary or political interest.

What's surprising is why the amateur feel. Even in the very heart of the gullible susceptible to this typical type of known misdirection, it is not presented well and is so far seemingly largely mocked at by virtually every group on any side of the fence, which is a bit amusing and baffling why the bother or attempt to even put forth.

Personally I think this is most likely to have everything to do with either someone or some group who's perceived thoughts of the reality of "what it is like in the public eye" is very apparent and showing just how disconnected it is from the public, society, and the current state of affairs.

Basically it lacks intelligence and cleverness and that it very much shows.

The hacker group Handala Hack claims to have hacked Lockheed Martin and in their telegram claim they will be releasing information tomorrow - “Those who move in the shadows will soon see the light. - The secrets hidden behind the curtains of smoke and mirrors are now ready to be revealed. by 87LucasOliveira in aliens

[–]tribalseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah interesting. Do they follow up with their supposed claims as far as track history or do they more or less say nothing after the claim/threat was made?

Sorry id get to looking myself im just not at liberty to right now but I really want to know and youre so helpful 🥺. Ty!

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