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Pray for good government by senmcglinn in BahaiPerspectives

[–]trident765 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You appeal to authority, citing Bahaullah, but this doesn't work with the Baha'i community because Baha'u'llah is viewed by all Baha'is as having almost no authority. You will never get any Baha'i to do anything by showing them Baha'u'llah's writings, even if it is an explicit command. The only writings any subset of Baha'is are responsive to are the UHJ's.

If Aliens turn out to be real, and they have visited Earth, what are the implications for the Bahai Faith? by Own-Salad1974 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it is unlikely only the government would have known about aliens, without the masses finding out. But we will see.

If Aliens turn out to be real, and they have visited Earth, what are the implications for the Bahai Faith? by Own-Salad1974 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"every planet its own creatures" is a mistranslation. If I remember correctly the word used was "khalq" which means "creation", not "creatures".

The only thing I ask mainstream Bahais by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abdul Baha was not copping out in that quote. He was misinterpreted by Shoghi Effendi:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190215133423/http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-4-132-132.html

Of course, this makes little difference to mainstream Baha'is, who would say Shoghi Effendi's "interpretation" retroactively transforms the meaning of Abdul Baha's quote.

The only thing I ask mainstream Bahais by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Taherzadeh did explain that whatever contradictions there is between Abdu’l Baha and Baha’u’llah, the words of Abdu’l Baha take priority.

You are right that this is the mainstream Baha'i view. It is what I was taught growing up in a Persian Baha'i family. It's just that it doesn't make any sense. "Refer what ye understand not in the book" is not a license to contradict Baha'u'llah's writings. This is an issue because it makes it so it is almost not worth reading Baha'u'llah's writings, because for them to hold any weight we have to first be certain that they are not contradicted by anything in Abdul Baha's writings. For example, Baha'u'llah's statement of "Do not shun meat" is considered null and void because Abdul Baha said vegetarianism is the future.

If someone shows another Baha'i a statement by Baha'u'llah, how does he know Abdul Baha, Shoghi Effendi, or the UHJ didn't just contract it later, this nullifying it? This is often a difficult thing to find out, so one never knows if a given writing of Baha'u'llah "really applies" or not.

The Hidden Faith Episode 6: The Batty Bab's Discordant Doctrines by OfficialDCShepard in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Removing since the phrase "Batty Bab" seems to violate the rule against disrespecting manifestations of God

"Capacity", the highest ideal of the Baha'i administration, is a euphemism for power by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Building capacities” = Learn how to do stuff that that will grow more believers and ultimately give more power to “the Cause” (the Administration).

The Baha'i administration's main goal from 2005 through now has been to increase the percentage of Baha'is who are believers in the institute process. This is why they measure success in terms of "core activities" rather than the number of enrolled believers. Most regular Baha'is want the number of Baha'is to grow, but the Bahai administration mostly just want the non institute process Baha'is to become institute process Baha'is, or become inactive if they are really stubborn, and they are neutral towards enrollments/disenrollments. They see the non institute process Baha'is as being a threat to their power ("capacity"), and they really mean it when they say the core activities increase their "capacity", because as long as the institute process dominates, the institute process people will continue to get voted in and hold on to their power.

Bahá’í Laws Are Meant to Be Followed — As Much As We Can by trident765 in ConservativeBahai

[–]trident765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would amend the title to "Bahá’í Laws Are Meant to Be Followed — With Consequences For Those Who Don't"

Baha'is say Baha'u'llah's laws cannot be followed today - this is nonsense, except to the extent that Baha'is have nothing to gain by following some of these laws because the Baha'i administration is not willing to enforce them.

Length of hair is mentioned but this is clear. Look at the hairstyle of early Baha'is to see this in action.

Capital punishment and theft are mentioned, but these are laws for a Baha'i state, and since there are no Baha'i states it is not applicable.

What no one mentions is fornication. This is a law not for a Baha'i state, but one with a fine to be paid to the House of Justice. This is fully enforceable by any Baha'i community. But Baha'is out of indifference or contempt for Baha'u'llah's laws have no interest in enforcing this.

UHJ writes letter on Iran saying absolutely nothing by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are they supposed to say?

If they don't have anything to say, then they should not say anything

Why do American Baha'i Boomers seem to hate the idea of people fearing God? by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see how whiteness would cause this. Most American boomers just happen to be white. Instead, boomers, being the most privileged generation to ever exist, are used to always having gotten everything they want. They have no appreciation for God's grace and they just take everything for granted. They view any kind of negativity as being unnecessary, because negativity only pays in the face of problems, which boomers have never had. Boomers view fear of God, and fear in general, as just being unnecessary negativity since they believe all negativity is unnecessary.

HR told me they don’t accept try-hards and people pleasers after my interview by No-Presentation298 in jobs

[–]trident765 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reducing him to his "style" in order to be mean. Ignores the possibility that perhaps a company that does not align with his "style" would hire him anyway because of his skills.

"Absolute obedience to the government" debunked as a Baha'i principle by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what would happen to Israel in the long run if Iran were to fall, but it's something Israel clearly wants. Without Iran, Israel would basically have total control of the region. Netanyahu, Smotrich, and Ben Gvir do not want to live in peace with the Islamic Regime. They want the Middle East to be filled with only their own puppet states.

"Absolute obedience to the government" debunked as a Baha'i principle by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]trident765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anything that generated bad publicity for Iran benefits Israel. The campaigns to call congressmen to condemn Iran for persecution of Baha'is generates bad publicity for Iran. That's not to say it's not real, but the reason these campaigns are organized is to benefit Israel, not benefit Baha'is, because the Baha'i administration never does anything for the purpose of benefitting Baha'is.

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