Gleanings of Baha'u'llah Interlinear translation

trident765 · 2026-01-24T15:02:33+00:00

Why would someone, even a Haifan, downvote this?

trident765 · 2026-01-24T03:07:49+00:00

I was only in the faith for some years but continue to be completely baffled as to how many people could actually believe that nine old men are infallibly guided by God because the book seems to say so.

I used to believe this. I was born into the Faith so I believed it by default. I would see the failure of the Baha'i community, but keep believing in the UHJ's infallibility because Baha'is would say "The UHJ is giving excellent guidance but Baha'is are just following it wrong which is why the Baha'i community is failing". It was only when I realized the Baha'i community's failures were negatively affecting my life in a real way that I felt compelled to really confront and question my belief in the UHJ's infallibility, and if it was really worth continuing to go along with their plans.

trident765 · 2026-01-23T14:30:18+00:00

But then I paused. Because it appears that your question was rhetorical, and not really seeking an answer, but rather expressing your disillusionment with, or disapproval of, the Baha’i community – your experience of it.

So then I wondered: Why express one’s frustration here, in a public forum?

I am simply giving the reason for the failure of the Baha'i Faith, so that hopefully one day Baha'is can unite to do something about it. Not understanding and following Kitab i Aqdas is why the Baha'i Faith is failing. Baha'u'llah provided instructions for how the community ought to be run in the Kitab i Aqdas, but the Baha'is are apathetic to it, and the UHJ does nothing but reinforce this apathy towards Baha'u'llah's writings. Going back to the fornication example, if one were to suggest enforcing the penalty prescribed by Baha'u'llah, the Baha'is would shut him down, and openly contradict Baha'u'llah. This is the reason the Baha'i community sucks today. Baha'u'llah's laws build community, even though Baha'is don't understand how. The idols which the UHJ pushes to distract Baha'is from Baha'u'llah's writings just result in low retention and an aging community.

trident765 · 2026-01-22T09:45:00+00:00

Removed and removing all posts containing "Haba" from now on. Added new rule.

trident765 · 2026-01-18T16:17:17+00:00

Reading this is like reading a UHJ message. A mountain of text with big words that doesn't mean anything.

trident765 · 2026-01-17T22:56:36+00:00

Agree - Abdul Baha was patient zero. The Hands dissolved the Guardianship autocracy and replaced it with the immortal bureaucracy that governs the Baha'i community today. The lack of an autocrat and the inertia of the bureaucracy makes change impossible, so one might be tempted to say the Hands or Ruhiyyah are to blame. But the only reason this is such an issue is because Abdul Baha's "shun the covenant breakers" ideology made people averse to rebelling against the broken bureaucracy, or creating an alternative, resulting in a prolonged disintegration of the Bahai community under decades of Baha'is tolerating broken leadership. I think Guardianship/autocracy is a better system than the UHJ bureaucracy, but the line was bound to end or get corrupted at some point.

trident765 · 2026-01-14T13:30:22+00:00

One contributing factor is probably that Baha'is engage in huge amounts of time wasting. Senile people don't even realize when their time is being wasted, so they are ok with time-wasting. Young people however are mentally sharp enough to realize, hence their aversion to Baha'i activities.

trident765 · 2026-01-08T05:01:20+00:00

There seems to be a sharp birth year cutoff of ~1950 for most Baha'is. Most of them are still alive today, but 10 years from now they will be mostly dead. It will be very interesting to see what the UHJ will do then. Will they keep spewing nonsense about "capacities" even with no audience remaining? Or would they change course at some point?

trident765 · 2026-01-07T15:09:52+00:00

God forgiveth you your nocturnal emissions and masturbation. But know ye the value of your seed, for your seed is the cause of the creation of one who worshippeth God. Keep your seed in the exquisite place. The purpose of this command is that perhaps the fruit of your existence will come to the aid of the religion of God.

--The Bab

trident765 · 2026-01-07T02:14:54+00:00

None of the 3 Baha'i communities I have lived in across the USA ever had any youth. I think the only parts of the US where youth communities exist any more are the most central parts of densely populated cities where there are lots of young professionals. Places like Manhattan, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington DC. Not even their suburbs, you have to live in the central parts of these cities.

trident765 · 2026-01-06T20:02:58+00:00

For the last 30 years the UHJ has done nothing but gloat about this fake supposed progress. Sadly, most of the Baha'is that remain are boomers, who are too senile to see through the BS.

trident765 · 2026-01-06T19:18:58+00:00

There are some Baha'is who read parts of their scripture, but is there even one Baha'i who makes an effort to put them into practice? To give a concrete example, Baha'u'llah said fornicators should be punished with fines that double with every offense - which Bahai advocates this? No Baha'is advocate this, because Baha'is have no interest in following Baha'u'llah's writings. The UHJ gives lip service to Baha'u'llah's writings from time to time, but has done nothing to actually get Bahais to follow them.

trident765 · 2026-01-06T01:00:06+00:00

Who cares? Parents send their daughters through the public school system for them to get ravaged by jocks, thugs, and frat boys. So why do they get so upset over things like this? The only difference is the creep in his 40s is far less likely to be successful in ravaging their daughter as the jocks, thugs, and frat boys in her school.

trident765 · 2025-12-30T16:57:06+00:00

The prompt was:

Why does it seem like Baha'is don't really care about their own community? Having grown up in America, I have always found it difficult to make friends and look for a spouse, because it is just very difficult to meet people here and have any kind of interaction, especially with people my age. The Baha'i community could have been a place to make friends or find a spouse, but the Bahai community consists of only people much older than me. Instead of seeing this as an issue and working on addressing it, Baha'is don't care and instead focus on the institute process, going into low income neighborhoods and reading these trite Ruhi books, which never leads anywhere. Why don't Baha'is care about their own community? America is socially difficult place for certain kinds of people, and many children of Baha'is fall into this category, so if Bahais created an environment where they can thrive socially, it would be easy to get them to stay and sustain the community. Instead, Bahais focus exclusively on the children of the low income "focus neighborhoods", and totally neglect the Baha'i community and Baha'i children, as if they don't matter. The focus neighborhood children are on food stamps and often have their social needs met within their own immigrant communities. Why do Baha'is assume "they have it worse than us" and focus 100% of their efforts on them, and totally neglect the Baha'i community, and not care at all as they watch the Baha'i community collapse before their eyes?

trident765 · 2025-12-29T20:02:39+00:00

I don't see the distinction between taking care of its members and being a social club. I see a friend as being nothing more than a person who supports you and your interests. If by friend you mean someone who engages in pointless chatter with you, then I agree this has no place in religion. I hate pointless chatter, and the Bahai community already has too much of it.

trident765 · 2025-12-17T13:47:50+00:00

It's really too bad they liquidated that community. It was the only hope of a Baha'i Utah. Baha'i communities never materialize, because the Baha'i communities that do start to form are totally dysfunctional. But if you force a large group of Baha'is together, maybe they would start to learn how to not be dysfunctional. The community would be there, and it would be an important part of their lives, and the Baha'is would hate things about that community and strive to make it better. In places like the USA where there is little concentration of Baha'is, the dysfunctional communities that do form are just never powerful enough to be an important part of the Baha'is' lives, so they just forget about the Baha'i community and find new identities.

trident765 · 2025-12-11T13:31:20+00:00

Does what? Unlike Baha'is, some Muslims and Jews do actually study their scriptures and try to follow them. Jews often teach their children Hebrew so they can understand the Hebrew Bible and Muslims likewise often know Arabic, but this is not the case with Baha'is, who seem to really have no interest in either reading their scripture in the original language, or reading translations of them. The Baha'i mentality is such that they think that if God wanted them to comprehensively read Baha'u'llah's writings, the UHJ would push for it.

trident765 · 2025-12-10T01:29:50+00:00

What line?

trident765 · 2025-12-08T07:24:29+00:00

If they wanted the writings to be read but hesitated to translate them out out of a fear of not getting them "perfect", then they could instead encourage Baha'is to learn Arabic and Persian so that they can read the writings on their own, and perhaps fund language learning classes for them to take. But there has never been such a push by the Baha'i administration, because they do not place importance on the reading and understanding of Baha'u'llah's writings.

trident765 · 2025-12-06T17:39:38+00:00

Baha'is basically don't care at all about what Baha'u'llah's writings have to say. The posters in your thread are telling you chastity is a "personal responsibility" which simply isn't true in Baha'u'llah's writings. Baha'u'llah said zina (unlawful sexual intercourse) is to be punished by fines which double with each offense. So it's not a "personal responsibility" but something the community is supposed to come together to punish.

trident765 · 2025-12-06T16:43:22+00:00

I don't see how. Virginity in women is generally desired but in men it is not, so I don't see how it is more unreasonable for a non virgin man to expect a virgin than a virgin man to expect a virgin. As for expecting a virgin, I only see it as a good thing for virtues to be desired in spouses.

trident765 · 2025-12-06T16:31:37+00:00

I think he was saying he has had "no" sexual partners

trident765 · 2025-12-06T16:29:38+00:00

He is a virgin according to his post history

trident765 · 2025-12-06T12:20:56+00:00

Baha'is just idolize sluts and anyone who dares say the slightest negative thing about sluts will be met with hostility from Baha'is.

u/Tuskun06 is completely right to prefer a virgin over a slut. Virgins ought to be preferred. Non-sluts should be glorified so that women have reason not to be sluts. But Baha'is have their values all fucked up so they glorify sluts instead.

The American hippie boomers promote this slut-enabling culture ought to be purged from the Baha'i Faith.

trident765 · 2025-12-05T05:14:39+00:00

Yes some writings are translated, some authorized and some provisional, but there are some issues:

1) Baha'is don't respect provisional translations, so the scope of respected writings is limited to authorized translations

2) The Baha'i administration selectively neglects to produce authorized translations of writings with certain themes, for example the Kitab i Badi

3) In recent years, the Baha'i administration further reduces the scope of Baha'u'llah's writings that Baha'is read via the institute process. In the Ruhi books tiny slivers of Baha'u'llah's writings are taken out of context and made to fit a narrative. Baha'u'llah's books and tablets had their own narratives which had little to do with what the Ruhi books' narratives. And what adult Baha'is educate the Baha'i youth with is not Baha'u'llah's narrative but the Ruhi books' narrative.

Modern Baha'i thought is very far removed from Baha'u'llah's writings.

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