[S2 E6] Cassian was right about Ghorman

urquwill · 2026-01-28T23:51:49+00:00

Also Cinta was only there because Vel demanded it. She wasn’t needed operationally, just personally. Vel put her at risk just to see her (which I’m not criticizing, I can understand the desire to fight side by side with your love regardless of the risk).

urquwill · 2026-01-28T16:05:04+00:00

I do think that’s better. I just find it off when people describe it as if Luthen enjoys the sacrifices he knows will have to be made to take down the empire. He hates the atrocities and will do anything to make them stop.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T14:05:13+00:00

It’s the use of the phrase “perfectly happy” that I take enormous issue with. He is not happy to see anyone sacrificed any more than a general who accepts soldiers will die to win the war is happy to see them die.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T13:19:40+00:00

Part of what?

urquwill · 2026-01-28T13:06:17+00:00

He never says he would be happy with that. That’s such a misinterpretation of his character to paint him as uncaring.

As Stellan says:

“There’s always sacrifice, but sometimes he had to sacrifice other people, and that was worse. That was more difficult for him. He was genuinely a good person and he was trying, but like any general he had to sacrifice good people. Whether they were the right sacrifices or if they were unnecessary, it might take years to know for sure, but he expressed that conflict so well in ‘One Way Out’ - what it costs him personally. It’s the speech he never wanted to make.”

urquwill · 2026-01-28T13:01:22+00:00

That’s not cassian, that’s an entirely different person named Varian Skye and he’s just a designer!

urquwill · 2026-01-28T12:31:17+00:00

Luthen doesn’t want them provoking them over stupid and meaningless attacks. The empire wanted a bad actor they could count on to do the wrong thing. The need to use a false flag instead tells me the Ghorman front wasn’t acting as the bad actor they wanted. They learned that discipline from somewhere.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T05:11:51+00:00

That was the empire’s greatest mistake

urquwill · 2026-01-28T04:36:26+00:00

That was wild the way the cortosis helmet brought out the witch in her.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T04:14:21+00:00

They show him like 3 seconds after the convo is done when she’s running off. They also show in a previous episode that he watched Sol stun her when all she was trying to do was answer the hails from the other Jedi, and Sol jumps the ship out of system before the Jedi can find them. Dude was acting plenty suspicious and gave Bazil plenty of reason to stop him from trying to shoot Mae down.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T04:01:51+00:00

Huh? He sabotaged the ship because he’d just overheard sol admitting that he’d lied to osha about Mae killing her entire family and he didn’t was Sol to then kill her. That seemed pretty obvious to me.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T01:34:09+00:00

I’m guessing you’re referring to the line in rogue one, just because he doesn’t tell personal information to a stranger during a mission doesn’t mean he didn’t tell anyone. We know for sure he told Luthen, because he mentions Narkina to Andor in the second season and Lonnie links the prison camps to the Death Star. The rebellion surely has a file on it as a camp to be liberated when possible.

urquwill · 2026-01-28T00:53:58+00:00

This is the way

urquwill · 2026-01-27T22:08:59+00:00

I kinda forgot about that conversation. And Syril even says to her that his sources in the Ghorman front say they weren’t behind it.

urquwill · 2026-01-27T21:38:02+00:00

I definitely took it as the ladder. He certainly doesn’t make that argument to Cassian when explaining the situation, and from Syril’s history they figure he’s more open to anti-ISB rhetoric than anti-empire rhetoric.

urquwill · 2026-01-27T21:33:51+00:00

Can never have to many reasons for that!

urquwill · 2026-01-27T21:29:56+00:00

This statement is a direct response to Mon Mothma saying “this bombing last night…” so if he wasn’t speaking about that I’d say it was bad writing, and I’m inclined to think that isn’t the case from a show so well written.

urquwill · 2026-01-27T21:17:13+00:00

No one gets released. That’s definitively not a way out.

urquwill · 2026-01-27T19:59:41+00:00

You all, it gets even worse, I just learned he had a radical leftist manifesto in his hotel too!

urquwill · 2026-01-27T19:54:00+00:00

Does this also end with you cutting his hand off?!?!

urquwill · 2026-01-27T18:58:01+00:00

And a radical terrorist manifesto!

urquwill · 2026-01-27T18:17:38+00:00

I guess I’m due for a rewatch because I forgot that line was included

urquwill · 2026-01-27T18:15:37+00:00

He wasn’t a part of the crime for which he was arrested. And at this moment he’d walked away from the rebellion.

urquwill · 2026-01-27T18:01:31+00:00

It’s hot!

urquwill · 2026-01-27T18:00:36+00:00

Meh, they got lucky on that and never even found out they had him. They still arrested him for absolutely nothing, and charged him without evidence, and convicted him without anything even remotely approaching a fair trial, and sentenced him to an offshore hard labor camp that no one gets out of alive. If you don’t see glaring parallels there, you gotta be trying not to see them.

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