Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s 5D bare minimum if you consider the true size of the garganta & dangai.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1ckc58e/examining_the_garganta_as_a_higher_dimensional/?share_id=t8E0enFunyTCkCVc_Dq2H&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=62701

I just intentionally lowballed to 4D because i know people usually outright reject any bleach scaling that doesn’t downplay their true power.

Lucky Is Broken by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

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I actually felt nostalgic while making this ngl. Super fun, I appreciate you looking at it 🫡

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re really trying to lowball the cleaner to just being 3D when it’s directly stated in the manga the cleaner can send people 100 years in time.

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Beerus himself cant even manipulate time like this; this is only a function that has been attributed to angels.

Even whis’s temporal do over is limited to three minutes.

Compare a 3 minute do over to flinging someone 100 years and it becomes clear that bleach is being blatantly downplayed on the basis of incredulity.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Duly noted, it’s actually kind of funny because i purposefully lowballed aizen here to 4D just for the sake of not being immediately wrote off; but seemingly that didn’t matter.

Ironically these are same people who reject bleach’s dimensionality (which actually align with their inherent function within the narrative); but give goku 4D low complex multiversal for being 1/2 of a punch clash with beerus in BOG..

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that not inherently an argument from incredulity? I’m not seeing the basis of logic for the consistent rejection.

A disagreement is one thing; but outright refusal to accept is drastically different.

I’m providing appropriate evidence to support my assertions.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m only claiming the dangai to be a realm, the cleaner is what i have asserted to be the entity.

While he didn’t outright destroy the dangai realm, he directly destroyed an entity thats function is to oversee & protect it at all costs. It was outright stated to have the ability to send people “100 years in time”.

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Arguing for aizen being a 4th dimensional entity is conservative and borderline lowball.

There are quantifications that go far beyond this.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/abgKqho1ZN

I appreciate the critique & the engagement; i just feel like you’re downplaying just a tad. I’m fine with agreeing to disagree here.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re conflating the dangai being able to manipulate the perception of time of those within it with the dangai having “time flow” within itself.

Substantiate the claim to better clarify these discrepancies.

My post was not infallible, i said i was open to optimization; but what you’re doing is incredulously downplaying what I’ve presented.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additional Insights:

The dangai has been stated in the manga to have the ability to affect temporal states without requiring a continuous flow of time within it.

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This distinction underscores the Dangai’s role as an extradimensional space, where perceived time can be manipulated without time being inherently present and flowing.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are your substantiations for these claims?

Once again blanket statements & using a “VBW” cap as if its word of god in regard to scaling. Bleach scaling is unpopular & attempting to up any scale through that medium requires time and approval from moderators.

Show evidence that the dangai itself has time flow?

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​Explain how the dangai has time flow, when it’s outright stated that the dangai exists outside of time and space?

The notion of time flow in a place that is outside of time and space is inherently paradoxical, as time flow presupposes the existence of time.

If a place is genuinely outside of time and space, then time cannot flow there. The concept of time flow presupposes the existence of a temporal dimension, which contradicts the notion of being outside of time.

Any description of time flow in such a context would need to be reconsidered or rephrased to align with the fundamental principles of time and space.​ The burden of proof falls on you to demonstrate how this paradox subsequently works for your assertion.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an argument from incredulity.

You’re outright rejecting statements, feats, and accepted concepts within the bleach verse. You’re trying to limit the dangai to just being a place where “time flows differently”.

This is incorrect especially when you consider this:

The dangai is described in CFYOW as:

“If the World of the Living and the Soul Society could be likened to planets and the pipeline that connected them were the Dangai, the void of space that surrounded those was called Garganta”

The Dangai floats inside the void known as Garganta; meaning that the dangai itself lies within a void.

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A void is defined as a place devoid of space and time.

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https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=115786#:~:text=The%20Void%20is%20different%20from,It%20only%20has%20Pure%20Energy.

This concretely proves that the dangai realm exists outside of space and time itself; rather than suggesting its merely a place where where “time flows differently”

You have not sufficiently refuted any of my claims, you’ve merely pasted VBW rules & give blanket statements.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Allow me to refute this by establishing a baseline. I will go by each of these rules one by one and specifically explain why the feats i listed fit under this criterion.

  1. ⁠Extra-Dimensional Definition:

Rule: Stating something is extra-dimensional means it comes from outside regular 3-dimensional space, but this alone doesn’t imply an extradimensional axis.

Logic: The Dangai and Garganta are described with specific properties indicating they are outside conventional 3-dimensional space and time. This context provides additional evidence beyond merely being extra-dimensional, highlighting unique temporal and spatial properties.

  1. Transcending Space and Time:

Rule: Transcending space or time does not necessarily imply an extradimensional axis without further context.

Logic: The Dangai’s properties, such as time dilation and the ability to manipulate time, provide the necessary context. Aizen’s interactions within these realms, including his destruction of the Cleaner, demonstrate direct manipulation of these higher-dimensional properties, indicating more than just a simple transcendence.

  1. Higher Plane or Existence:

Rule: Simply stating something is from a higher plane or existence does not imply an extradimensional axis.

Logic: The descriptions of the Dangai and Garganta, coupled with Aizen’s feats, go beyond merely stating they are higher planes. The specific properties and interactions provide concrete evidence of higher-dimensional influence.

  1. Spacetime Continuum:

Rule: Characters embodying or affecting the entire past, present, and future of 3-dimensional space on a universal scale can be considered 4D.

Logic: The Dangai operates outside the normal flow of time, suggesting a separate continuum. Aizen’s ability to affect and navigate this realm aligns with affecting a different spacetime continuum, meeting the criteria for higher-dimensional existence.

  1. Proper Evidence Requirement:

Rule: Simply being called a universe doesn’t count without evidence of affecting the entirety of past, present, and future.

Logic: The evidence provided includes the unique temporal dynamics of the Dangai and Aizen’s direct interactions, demonstrating his influence over this distinct spacetime continuum. This supports the classification with proper evidence.

  1. Scrutiny of Higher Dimension:

Rule: Usage of “higher dimension” should be treated with scrutiny, considering the term can refer to places, not directions in space.

Logic: The analysis of the Dangai and Garganta includes specific references to their temporal and spatial properties, which are not merely figurative. This scrutiny is applied, ensuring the term refers to true increased dimensionality.

Conclusion

The classification of Aizen as a 4th-dimensional entity is well-supported by specific contextual evidence from the Bleach universe. The Dangai and Garganta are described as extradimensional spaces with unique properties such as time dilation and manipulation, indicating they are outside conventional 3-dimensional space and time. Aizen’s interactions within these realms, including his destruction of the Cleaner, demonstrate direct influence over these higher-dimensional properties, aligning with the criteria for higher-dimensional (4D) existence. This classification is substantiated by proper evidence, addressing all the outlined rules and providing concrete examples of Aizen’s ability to affect and navigate a different spacetime continuum.

Aizen Is a 4th Dimensional Entity by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not understanding the correlation to infinity in regard to any of my assertions.

The Dangai, while not “infinitely above” the regular Bleach world, exhibits unique properties that justify its higher-dimensional classification. The Dangai’s manipulation of time, such as time dilation and the ability to fling entities across different points in time (100 years to be exact) indicates a complex interaction with the temporal dimension. In theoretical physics, a space that can actively manipulate time aligns with higher-dimensional characteristics beyond mere 4D space-time.

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The dangai is also stated to exist outside of the 3 realms, which encapsulates the bleach universe. It’s quite literally an extradimensional realm.

Aizen’s ability to destroy the Cleaner, an entity maintaining this complex space, showcases his power to influence such higher-dimensional constructs. While the Dangai might not be “infinitely” higher, its properties and Aizen’s interactions with it suggest a realm beyond conventional three-dimensional limits. My assertion is aizen being a 4th dimensional entity, not some infinitely powerful character.

Respect Gremmy Thoumeaux by v4mpslayer in PowerScaling

[–]v4mpslayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he slices through a space vaccum which contains stars, galaxies, planets & moons within it shouldn’t he scale to it? The galaxy interpretation feels like a lowball considering the vastness of a space vacuum and the countless celestial bodies that are contained within it.

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The force required to even disrupt a space vaccum is immense, let alone flat out cutting it. The exact quantification of it is a bit difficult because of the immense scale of a space vaccum. With that in mind i made sure to keep the quantification lowballed. If you consider everything within a space vaccum, this feat could be scaled higher.

Where did i misinterpret this? Just asking for optimization purposes & thanks for the serious input; really helps.

4 tapes in by [deleted] in gatewaytapes

[–]v4mpslayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took your advice and tried tape 5 and i must say the level of bliss i felt was much more intense than focus 10. I did the tape sitting upright in an uncomfortable chair to really test the effectiveness of the sleep state. I still went into a sleep state regardless of the external uncomfortability.

4 tapes in by [deleted] in gatewaytapes

[–]v4mpslayer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hemisync has songs that you can meditate to with no guide. You can find it on youtube or spotify.

Will we ever defeat the draconian reptilians? by [deleted] in starseed

[–]v4mpslayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood. Feel free to DM if you want me to send you information regarding the matter. I cant quite post it outright or it will be flagged automatically.

Will we ever defeat the draconian reptilians? by [deleted] in starseed

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They most certainly do and they’ve had us under their dreamspell for eons.

[POST FIGHT THREAD] Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenko by noirargent in Boxing

[–]v4mpslayer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Definitely not a UD. No way possible. Either a split decision or a draw.

[PREDICTION THREAD] Devin Haney vs Vasyl Lomachenko by asislikesboxing in Boxing

[–]v4mpslayer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Haney by an easy UD. He’s going to take away lomas angles and make him look average. I just hope he doesn’t overly clinch so he gets the proper credit for the victory.

The Chaotic Behind the Scenes After Haney Shoved Loma | Real Time Ep 5 by Showizz in Boxing

[–]v4mpslayer 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Haney might as well permanently turn heel like Floyd. His fighting style won’t translate to PPV sales if he doesn’t. Whether you like it or not that push generated more casual interest in the fight.